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Post by Sussex Panther on Nov 6, 2004 22:09:58 GMT
Great! I wasn't too impressed with him down at Bracknell but in France and since then he's stepped in following injuries elsewhere and performed really well. He seems to be improving each game and I'm definately happy he's proved me wrong.
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Post by DoUrden on Nov 6, 2004 22:35:49 GMT
Wojciak played really well getting his first goal? and 2 points in total so fully deserved his MOM I guess but I'd have given it to JC tonight. He was so strong tonight and enjoyed his assist even more than his goal by the look of his face. He did amazingly to out muscle a Bison bloke all the way from the half way line with them tied up and still managed to get a brilliant touch on the cross to leave it perfect for Krulis to finish.
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Post by Sussex Panther on Nov 6, 2004 22:41:46 GMT
Anyone able to say what was the deal with Ivan's game penalty and confirm it was game and not match? IH Update just showed a straight 20 minute game penalty for roughing.
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Post by Mythosman on Nov 6, 2004 22:42:30 GMT
A solid all-round performance tonight, although it was worrying to see Magdosko leave the ice injured, yet again!
Craighead had what I thought was his best game of the season so far - worked well with his British linemates, and brought out a star performance from young Wojciak, who gets better with the more ice time he enjoys.
Big Mac was a steadying influence again, playing the majority of the game on defence and looking a class act. Other superb contributions from Calle and Ricci and Caddy looks to be reaching full match fitness at last.
Ivan was looking for a srubbish all night, and got his wish when thrown out for Roughing - a bit harsh from Ref Thompson, but he did refuse to pack it in!
Perhaps the rumours of a dressing room bust-up last week were true and Ivan knows he may be on his way soon?
Tomorrow night in Basingstoke will be a different proposition altogether, but if we can stop Sean Maltby, we should come away with the points.
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Post by DoUrden on Nov 6, 2004 22:49:03 GMT
Anyone able to say what was the deal with Ivan's game penalty and confirm it was game and not match? IH Update just showed a straight 20 minute game penalty for roughing. It was just a game peno for the roughing not match. All started when a Bison player(sorry I'm useless with opposition names) retaliated to a perfectlyfair check by pushing Ivan from behind. Ivan then turned round and started pushing back and everyone started to gather in as they do. Then someone else started pushing Ivan and he just lost it and wanted a fight. He tried with one bloke who didn't want to know but still got a few punches in before the refs pulled him away. He then seemed to calm down before flipping againa nd staking all the way round everyone to get a few more punches in on the same bloke. Was given 5 mins at first and was sat in the box before they decided to make it a game which made him furious! |
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Post by lockerbie on Nov 6, 2004 22:55:29 GMT
What is going on with Daniel Scott. He could not stay on his feet tonight, he was completely removed from the game, no passion, nothing. Even their young inexperienced guys made him look like a sugar plumb fairy. I know hes a nice guy but he just does not have it.
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Post by nuttyrockeress on Nov 6, 2004 23:05:40 GMT
What is going on with Daniel Scott. He could not stay on his feet tonight, he was completely removed from the game, no passion, nothing. Even their young inexperienced guys made him look like a sugar plumb fairy. I know hes a nice guy but he just does not have it. Who the hell do you think you are?? |
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Post by Samxpenguin on Nov 6, 2004 23:18:03 GMT
I thought we played well tonight, in the first 5 minutes i thought we might see a landslide score. Basingstokes Defense looked fairly shaky all night, and if we'd have scored more of our 1-on-1s we'd ahve won bya larger score. However, i thoguht there first line of Maltby, Sheppard and Ford(?), looked very swift and dangerous at times. Special mentions to Craighead, who tonight espeically in the 3rd period played extremely well. He battled, he held people off, he had some good passes and touches and scored a goal. He's starting to prove people wrong and really is beigna team player. He has been moved to a line with the inexperiecned Brits and he;'s got on and battled, he looked really happy while palying tonight aswell. Wojack played well aswell, when he first played this yea ri thought he looked out of his depth, now he looks far more confident and played really well tonight, deserved MoM. Ivan is a complete NUTTER at timnes, tonight he wanted a scruffle but he couldn't get one (why do the linesmen always come in and stop them, can't they just let them flow?). He played well although scuffed a decent number of one on ones. I think he might have words with a few off there players tomorow night... Thought the team played well, Ricci as always, Caddote looked better (he still needs shooting practice tho :  . shame about the crowd, looked quite small tonight but good game. Lockerbie, that was abit harsh....im not a fan of Scott atall but slamming him like thats not gonna help anything. You seemed to insinuate he doesn't care or try with 'no passion' which is complete rubbish. |
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Post by MP on Nov 6, 2004 23:22:04 GMT
Was given 5 mins at first and was sat in the box before they decided to make it a game which made him furious! It was always going to be a Game penalty - had to be. You can't go throwing punches when the linesman has stepped in between you and your opponent. A tadd fortunate perhaps, some might have given him a Match penalty. |
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Post by heja on Nov 6, 2004 23:25:00 GMT
i thought so too, but the people 2 seats to my left where still moaning at him for dumping the puck in when he had no chice eg three basingstoke players around him and only 1 panther
so craighead played really well, and if i had was choseing MOM i would of given it him and not wojciak.
as the MOM stands for Man of the Match not Man of the Moment. as craighed played very well all game.
i am glad Ivan had a go at that player, as he has been getting slashed, tripped and held for most of the games he has played in
one thing i wish the linesman didn't do is jump in stright away, they should see if the players want to fight and if it is a fair match and if they do want to fight and it is a fair match LET THEM. Otherwise you will just get tons of stick work and dangerous hits that will result in more serious injuries than a fight ever would
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Post by heja on Nov 6, 2004 23:25:57 GMT
well there are better players than daniel scott around at that age they just need to look and probably within the nottm set-up
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Post by lockerbie on Nov 6, 2004 23:31:35 GMT
Im a supporter who pays to see Elite League Hockey not schoolboys stuff, no disrespect to him as a person as I say hes a nice guy but hes just not this league. Sorry!
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Post by nickthepanther44 on Nov 6, 2004 23:59:30 GMT
i have to say scott did play quite bad tonite  jc played very well and would of been my mom because without him wojciak wouldnt of played half as well imo. he did everything he could of done, got an assist, goal and did his enforcing when carllson was being shoved by ewasko. i would liked to have seen them two go at the end but maybe tmra. fair play to ivan he was being shoved around and the bison players just didnt like it when he pushed back. but overall great game |
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Post by MP on Nov 7, 2004 0:00:21 GMT
as the MOM stands for Man of the Match not Man of the Moment. as craighed played very well all game. Wojciak played very well all game too and deserved his MoM in my book. Richard has developed in leaps and bounds since he's been given the ice time - Mopes will struggle to get his place back! The Wojciak - Myers - Craighead line played well all night. As predicted they found room to play and there was some very nice passing from them - not to mention points. Looked like Daniel needed his skates sharpening tonight but he wasn't the only player to deliver a rare below par performance. Scott Ricci had the worst game I've seen him have for us (wasn't that bad but he does set a very high standard). Just as well he had that bit part winger playing D alongside him again to help out..... ;D Does Steve McKenna look comfortable playing D or what?  His passes go with more force than some peoples' slap shots! Great skills too to set Caddy up for that miss on the open net! He looks a class act. They used to say it took a week to skate round Christian Taubert - think you'd need a fortnight to get round McKenna - not bad for a winger. |
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Post by heja on Nov 7, 2004 0:02:40 GMT
your dead right about craighead exactly what i thought.
and exactly what i thought about Ivan too (see great mind do think alike ;D)
but ivan has been slashed and all that all season not just tonight, he lost it like craighead did earlier in the season.
and teh ref was right to kick him out
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Post by Shaggy on Nov 7, 2004 0:19:39 GMT
What is going on with Daniel Scott. He could not stay on his feet tonight, he was completely removed from the game, no passion, nothing. Even their young inexperienced guys made him look like a sugar plumb fairy. I know hes a nice guy but he just does not have it. What a total steaming pile of pants! Sure - Dan lost his edges a few times...... so did at least four Bison players and a couple more of ours..... at one pooint it looked like the Keystone Kops out there! ;D Dan not playing with passion? - absolute cobblers..... he was diving into the thick of it, delivering some good checks, responding well when cheap-shotted, etc etc. What more do you want? Craighead looked good, no doubt about it - he & Wojciak especially seemed to work well together... and JC's goal! - never saw that one coming, a right beauty..... Personally, I'm not surprised Ivan 'lost it' - the Bison were targeting him right from the start with every kind of niggle and cheap-shot known to mankind... and it was winding him up. If Thompson had pulled his thumb out of his bum, things would never have got that far. Ricci having a poor game? - not from what I saw... he kept that back door firmly closed for most of the time he was on the ice. The one who really looked off his feed to me was Ahlroos. Overall, a decent team performance - not the greatest, but not half bad. The number of face-off wins was encouraging - the first three in a row, and plenty more - especially from Matt Myers.... nice one! ;D |
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Post by heja on Nov 7, 2004 0:35:55 GMT
but he has fallen over alot of times this season not just tonight
and there ARE better players than him about.
But scott is doing a good job for a 17 year old, and will be at least an alright brit if he carries on playing hockey and doesn't give up when he goes to uni 9if he goes to uni)
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Post by Peacock on Nov 7, 2004 2:18:53 GMT
and doesn't give up when he goes to uni 9if he goes to uni) Why would he? Uni Hockey is stronger now than it's ever been (assuming he wants to waste 3 years of his life in the first place). |
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Post by Thomas Elliott on Nov 7, 2004 9:09:20 GMT
People are going on about Daniel Scott falling over alot last night, hasn't anyone noticed that, when he came in, Mark Cadotte couldn't stay on his feet, especially against Coventry.
Danny is just 17, he's playing against people twice his age and strength. He's not going to look like an NHLer agaisnt some of the players BUT how is going to get better if he cannot play against people who are better than him?
And how can you say he has no passion, the guy gives his all every match, because if he didn't, he wouldn't be on the bench would he, and if he wasn't giving it his all last night then why did he stick up for himself against on of the Basingstoke D's, that was having a go at him. I thought he was going to drop the gloves at one point.
Great Work Danny, Keep It Up!!
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Post by Atko on Nov 7, 2004 9:16:30 GMT
Personally i thought danny played alright he finished of his his checks and got stuck in a lot.
Also thought panthers played well last night, the lines seemed to be playing well together even though they have been mixed around a bit.
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Post by brentford on Nov 7, 2004 9:42:15 GMT
Positive reaction from yours truly JC seemed to enjoy taking lead role with young Brit line was genuinly pleased when Richard W scored and was MOM good team performance more of that and we'll be OK.
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Post by DS on Nov 7, 2004 9:42:30 GMT
Quickly looking back, the only time the Panthers have managed back to back shut outs were in 1998 when Robins posted one on 25-9 against Slough in a 14-0 win and Mike Zanier posted one the next night again against Slough in a 5-0 win.
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Post by DS on Nov 7, 2004 9:45:24 GMT
The Bison player wasn't interested in fighting at all. Sorry but the linesmen did the right thing last night, trying to stop anything happening.
Ivan to me was very lucky not to get abuse of official, I'm sure if given that, it would have been Match penalty and missing tonight.
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Post by DS on Nov 7, 2004 9:51:48 GMT
on 11/06/2004 at 23:55:29, Lockerbie wrote:
If Dan Scott couldn't stay on his feet, What the hell was Krulis doing?
I think the Panthers should be looking to see if we can sign an NHL defenceman cos there are two of the current d, that can go for me
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Post by girdeaux on Nov 7, 2004 10:19:17 GMT
I'll openly admit I am not in the cult of young Daniel Scott, but to infere the guy's a waste of space is just ludicrous.
He wouldn't be on the roster if Adey & Co knew otherwise.
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. shame about the crowd, looked quite small tonight but good game.
His passes go with more force than some peoples' slap shots! Great skills too to set Caddy up for that miss on the open net! He looks a class act. They used to say it took a week to skate round Christian Taubert - think you'd need a fortnight to get round McKenna - not bad for a winger. 
