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Post by Rhino#13 on Nov 1, 2004 12:48:07 GMT
Don't seem to be able to reply to the proper thread as the 'reply' button has gone missing even though its present on other threads. So I'll put my comments here and the moderators can move them onto the thread at their leisure.
Thoroughly enjoyed the game although I got very worried in the third when the Steelers got one back. The thing is I've seen us throw away so many leads before against them that I can't even relax on a 2 goal cushion (not going to mention a 5-0 lead !). But fortunately these Steelers arn't a Blaiser team any more and they couldn't pull off the comeback.
McKenna looks great and if we have to choose between him and Tvrdon because of the wage cap, then on the strength of yesterday's game I'll take McKenna any day. Yeah, he was played sparingly and wasn't completely match fit, but he was a presence on the ice, his passing is superb and that kind of stick/puck handling is a class you only see from past/present NHL players. The Furby tow on his stick, the pinning of Peron on the boards to deter him from trouble (Peron was revealed as being about a foot shorter than McKenna !), the MASSIVE check in front of the benches, great fun and very useful to the team.
Craighead had a good game. I don't understand how people can't see him chasing the puck, bullying it off players, holding it up to set team mates up, etc. Defences are terrified of him and I mean that in a 'Oh b****r, he's heading for the net' way rather than fighty nonsense. I must've been watching a different game, but then as I STILL didn't notice anything Ricci did at all even though everyone says he had a good game and he got the MOM I obviously have a diametrically opposed view to some people's.
Cruickshank had another good game and I once again did the 'I'm not worthy' salute when he pulled off that amazing deflected reflex save.
Krulis played better and was often the last man racing to stop breakaways. He's deceptively fast actually.
Matt Myers is comedy on skates ! He never stops chasing after the puck, finishes every check once the idea to do it has entered his head and has a slight braking problem which is always funny. Good lad !
Man of the Match for me is my favourite guy: David Clarke. He is great. I said about 10 seconds before Krulis's goal that Clarke was gonna score this game as he'd already made two good chances out of nothing by improvisation alone. I thought he'd tipped Krulis's shot, but anyway. Tried hard all game, was in the netminder's face all game, total effort, love him.
Carson was letting some tripping go on both sides, but I don't think Sheffield have a lot to complain about penalty wise. First time I can remember someone actually doing something about their clutch and grab style ugly hockey. Craighead sometimes spends entire games pulling stick blades out of the front of his shirt.
All in all, a good game with the right result. I just wish that absolutely stunning 13 pass manoeuvre we did down the middle of the ice had ended in a goal as it was the best play I have ever seen in the new arena. The Steelers were all around, but couldn't get a stick anywhere near the puck ! Think it was the one time McKenna, Craighead and Ivan linked up.
Well done lads.
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Rhino#13
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Post by Rhino#13 on Nov 1, 2004 13:00:30 GMT
Incidentally at the start, with McKenna stood on the red line for the face off, did anyone else get the impression that everyone else on the ice was about 12 years old ??! It was a really strange visual effect caused by his 6'8 frame !
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Post by MP on Nov 1, 2004 13:01:50 GMT
Seems to be some problem with the board host at the moment. On the Original Steelers game thread it seems mods can post but no one else. Agree with you about Craighead and McKenna Rhino. "Krulis played better and was often the last man racing to stop breakaways. He's deceptively fast actually" Perhaps that's why you don't notice Ricci - he rarely has to race back after breakaways, he usually stops them from happening in the first place.
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Post by heja on Nov 1, 2004 13:02:54 GMT
posted by BDS
that is what ever single player in this league does , this always his after the puck has gone. It was just an amazing hit thats all,
and as for the slashing usally if it is below the waist and not a big hack it won't be called. the only slashing he missed was the one where he got him on the wrist but that was because carson was watching someone else on the ice.
but he evened up that missed slashing call with a slashing call on Carlsson that wasn't. He tapped him on the shorts, it should never be called.
Also steelers got away with a couple of clear offsides, one of which your player was about 4 or 5ft offside.
well they didn't look 12 years old but they did look about 1ft smaller than normal epecially craighead when standing next to him during the athem.
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Rhino#13
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Post by Rhino#13 on Nov 1, 2004 13:25:23 GMT
God, that offside that wasn't called was dreadful ! The back skate was literally 3 feet over the blueline. If they'd scored from that it would've been a travesty. Who were the lineys ? Can't remember who's number is what on their shirts. One of them seemed to be having an off night. There were some strange lacks of iciing calls too.
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Post by martin on Nov 1, 2004 13:30:16 GMT
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Post by fightygirl on Nov 1, 2004 15:44:30 GMT
Incidentally at the start, with McKenna stood on the red line for the face off, did anyone else get the impression that everyone else on the ice was about 12 years old ??! It was a really strange visual effect caused by his 6'8 frame ! He is absolutely huge isn't he? Certainly has a fantastic presence on the ice about him.
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Post by Adam on Nov 1, 2004 16:38:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2004 16:40:56 GMT
There is always a lack of icing calls it seems to me. Can anyone explain the actual rule, as it doesn't appear to be as simple as I thought.
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Post by Mark on Nov 1, 2004 16:55:03 GMT
There is always a lack of icing calls it seems to me. Can anyone explain the actual rule, as it doesn't appear to be as simple as I thought. Icing probably is as simple as you think but unfortunately last nights linesmen were simpler. The only thing worse than their lack of icing calls was excruciating lack of offside calls, one missed on the Steelers was pathetic. The offside player in question after struggling to get back on-side was still over a yard the wrong side of the blue line, but the linesman waved on-side.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2004 16:58:03 GMT
As an aside to the last post, can anyone tell me how to include a quote from a previous post. Using the quote label doesn't quite work right for me.
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Post by Admin on Nov 1, 2004 17:00:16 GMT
As an aside to the last post, can anyone tell me how to include a quote from a previous post. Using the quote label doesn't quite work right for me. What's not working? Press the quote button ... tab to after the final "]" then type your reply ... try it now chap ...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2004 17:13:49 GMT
What's not working? Press the quote button ... tab to after the final "]" then type your reply ... try it now chap ... OK thanks BJ
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Post by Admin on Nov 1, 2004 17:18:46 GMT
No worries!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2004 17:19:49 GMT
Back to the thread, reading in the NEP report the first goal is noted as Krulis cleverly lofting the puck over Platt as he had stopped 2 previous harder shots. I actually thought he didn't quite hit it right and the goalie was either fooled be that or unsighted as the puck sailed over him slow motion like. Also thought as others that Clarke may have got a touch.
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Post by James on Nov 1, 2004 17:20:57 GMT
Back to the thread, reading in the NEP report the first goal is noted as Krulis cleverly lofting the puck over Platt as he had stopped 2 previous harder shots. I actually thought he didn't quite hit it right and the goalie was either fooled be that or unsighted as the puck sailed over him slow motion like. Me too, it was certainly effective though
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2004 17:23:36 GMT
Time to give my considered thoughts on yesterdays performance, but firstly don't be too hard on the Steelers fans for blaming Carson because I know we (and especially me) have done it in the past. Having said that though I though Carson had a good game, let it flow and called what he saw. The only thing he missed was Krulis's slash on Christian in the 1st. I was amazed he didn't call that.
As for the game thought we cruised to victory, but made it a little hard on ourselves right at the end! Make no mistake, the Steelers are a very poor side if that performance is anything to go by, they offered all the offensive threat of a wet paper bag! I thought the only decent player they had out there yesterday was Platt, he made some stunning saves. McKenna was excellent, he oozed class. Strong, excellent passing and he did it all with a smile on his face, great stuff. The defence as a whole played well, Carlsson & Ricci were immense snuffing out what little threat the Steelers posed. Clarke had another magnificent game. This guy is one of the best players in this league. If I was Adey I'd get him signed up for next season as soon as possible. Kalmikov was also superb, and to cap it off with that empty netter just rubbed it in a bit more ;D ;D
All in all an enjoyable night, as it always is when we put one over our nearest & dearest ;D I hope we can continue where we left off from last night and put a bit of a run together.
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Post by girdeaux on Nov 1, 2004 17:30:19 GMT
Kalmikov was also superb, and to cap it off with that empty netter just rubbed it in a bit more ;D ;D
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Post by James on Nov 1, 2004 17:34:29 GMT
Yes Anton, your prediction that Kali would start to score goals was correct. Well Done
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Post by girdeaux on Nov 1, 2004 17:36:47 GMT
Yes Anton, your prediction that Kali would start to score goals was correct. Well Done Class player, it's as simple as that. I'm suprised in a plesant way though about his defensive aspect to his game, as a lot of the St John's fans I spoke to didn't seem too impressed when talking about Kal's attitude to defense?! Glad he's doing the business for us though
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Post by James on Nov 1, 2004 17:41:21 GMT
He has great speed for a bloke his size, his stick handling is fantastic and has a hard quick release shot. One of my favourite players so far.
Not really noticed his defensive skills, i'll keep my eye on him next game.
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Post by Helen on Nov 1, 2004 18:22:59 GMT
Having said that though I though Carson had a good game, let it flow and called what he saw. The only thing he missed was Krulis's slash on Christian in the 1st. I was amazed he didn't call that. JC had a sneaky little cross check to the back of a Steelers head in the corner too then again I'm not surprised the ref didn't see it. Argh I'm starting to make as much sense as Tim
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Post by heja on Nov 1, 2004 22:48:18 GMT
i think there were plenty of times last night where the linesman should NOT of called icing e.g. where the puck crosses the line barely moveing, or where the players are not even trying to get the puck and if they had tried would of got there before the puck had crossed the line. Obivously if they have tried and still haven't got there then call it, also if the player could of intercepted it then i think icing should not be called.
If the lineman do that then it will keep the game flowing.
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Post by Admin on Nov 2, 2004 16:49:17 GMT
i think there were plenty of times last night where the linesman should NOT of called icing e.g. where the puck crosses the line barely moveing, or where the players are not even trying to get the puck and if they had tried would of got there before the puck had crossed the line. Obivously if they have tried and still haven't got there then call it, also if the player could of intercepted it then i think icing should not be called. If the lineman do that then it will keep the game flowing. That happened two or three times ... putting us at a disadvantage, the Sheffield D could easily have reached the puck before it crossed the line yet the lineys blew up for icing!
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Post by heja on Nov 2, 2004 17:01:38 GMT
i am sure it was a punch that didn't conect.
unlike perons who punched krulis and then krulis gets called for holding even though he was doing nothing differnt to what all decent defencman do in the courner eg pin the up against the boards and take them out of the play
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