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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2013 13:56:45 GMT
I honestly can't see past a Hawks vs Pens final with the Hawks edging it. Though I think the best of the first round matchups will be Canadiens vs the Sens. Dont get blinded by the fact seeds 1 and 2 will go all the way, many times this hasnt happened ( the wings are proof weve been top seeds times and have fell early on .) on form we are up there, weve been playing play off hockey for a week a two now due to us figting for those last two spots in the west whereas some teams have tailed off due to having a play off birth secured for a while . sure going to be interesting how it unfolds
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Post by Pies on Apr 29, 2013 14:04:06 GMT
I honestly can't see past a Hawks vs Pens final with the Hawks edging it. Though I think the best of the first round matchups will be Canadiens vs the Sens. Dont get blinded by the fact seeds 1 and 2 will go all the way, many times this hasnt happened ( the wings are proof weve been top seeds times and have fell early on .) on form we are up there, weve been playing play off hockey for a week a two now due to us figting for those last two spots in the west whereas some teams have tailed off due to having a play off birth secured for a while . sure going to be interesting how it unfolds It goes against every fibre in my being to give the red wings any credit! I'm not just saying because they're top seeds. I just think they'll be both there. I don't think we'll see an upset like the kings last year - with such a short season, i don't think any team has rested too much. I hope we see a pens vs bruins series at some point. My preference is for the Bruins to win now.
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Post by Dan on Apr 29, 2013 14:27:19 GMT
Dont get blinded by the fact seeds 1 and 2 will go all the way, many times this hasnt happened ( the wings are proof weve been top seeds times and have fell early on .) Woah, woah. The 'fact'? There are hundreds of occasions where people have said that someone or someone else is a lock for the cup and they're out in the first round. I'd put money on the final not being the Hawks v Pens. The NHL just has a way of working like that. They're obviously the best two teams but that's not enough on it's own. It's all mental and who's to say they haven't peaked too soon?
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Post by shinobi on Apr 30, 2013 8:03:07 GMT
BOS should easily dispose of TOR; we have a decent team and are on an upward swing at the moment (Reilly & Finn are going to be very good defenseman) but we simply aren't at their level yet.
Reimer will have to stand on his head if they're to stand any chance & even then I don't reckon it'll be enough.
BOS in 5.
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Post by Shaggy on Apr 30, 2013 9:14:36 GMT
Well, the Wild have made it into the play-offs for the first time in 5 years... pity they'll be going straight out in the first round! I know there can be (and plenty of times have been) upsets in the postseason... but against the juggernaut that is the current Chicago Blackhawks team? And especially with Heatley and Pominville out injured (OK, Heatley's not one to rely upon, but even so...)? Not a chance.
Success for the Wild here will be taking it as far as Game 6.
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Post by shinobi on Apr 30, 2013 13:38:23 GMT
Well, the Wild have made it into the play-offs for the first time in 5 years... pity they'll be going straight out in the first round! I know there can be (and plenty of times have been) upsets in the postseason... but against the juggernaut that is the current Chicago Blackhawks team? And especially with Heatley and Pominville out injured (OK, Heatley's not one to rely upon, but even so...)? Not a chance. Success for the Wild here will be taking it as far as Game 6. At least our teams made it! Certainly from a TOR point of view, they were expected to be an abject failure again. I'm just going to enjoy the season being extended by a week or so lol.
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Post by patch9495 on May 1, 2013 1:11:32 GMT
Cracking start in the blues kings game. Proper physical game with hits flying everywhere. Definately,going to be a series to watch, and this is coming from a pens fan
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Post by abi on May 1, 2013 13:42:31 GMT
Major props to Harding for stepping up in those sorts of circumstances for the Wild. Seems as though he gave a solid performance too! If Backstrom is out for the series this could be a chance for Harding to step up (saying "step forward" sounds wrong when talking about a goalie!) and potentially throw an upset?
Whilst I can't see past Pens and Hawks, I love underdog stories...
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Post by Dan on May 4, 2013 2:07:41 GMT
Islanders bring it back to 1-1, and that's a fact.
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Post by shinobi on May 5, 2013 9:37:11 GMT
We have a series now between BOS - TOR; series tied 1-1
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Post by Pies on May 5, 2013 10:14:52 GMT
Horrible hit by Adelkader last night. But a good win for the ducks - can't see the red wings winning this series.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2013 10:28:27 GMT
Horrible hit by Adelkader last night. But a good win for the ducks - can't see the red wings winning this series. Horrible hit? , yeah if you say so . The refs never called the hit at the time . At the point of contact both skates were on the ground , and it wasn't even charging as he glided into the hit . Shocking call which cost us the game as it was poised at 0-0 at the time. Ultimately could cost us the series Years ago if we lost a game 4-0 I'd fancy us to bounce back with the stars we had , now we have a lot of inexperience I don't think we ll recover from that
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Post by Dan on May 5, 2013 10:37:39 GMT
Refs never called it? Didn't he get a 5+ Game? Either way, it's a dirty hit. It's a charge. It's blindside. It's primary point of contact is the head and he leaves his feet. It ticks every box, your bias is understandable but he'll be missing a game or three for that.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2013 10:45:58 GMT
Refs never called it? Didn't he get a 5+ Game? Either way, it's a dirty hit. It's a charge. It's blindside. It's primary point of contact is the head and he leaves his feet. It ticks every box, your bias is understandable but he'll be missing a game or three for that. Don't try and justify it cause as soon as the flyers get called you are the first to go up in arms . If you think that's charging you don't know what hitting is . Charging us when you build up momentum into the hit, Abs is gliding and even starts to slow down when he hits him . Any ban from that is a disgrace . I used to love shanny as a player but I have a feeling I'm gonna to hate him very soon
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Post by Dan on May 5, 2013 11:00:09 GMT
If the Flyers are suspended for a good hit then ill be angry at it but I couldn't defend a hit like that.
It's ironic that its actually you who doesn't know what charging is, you should really check your facts before you get all cocky. Charging shall mean the actions of a player who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner. A “charge” may be the result of a check into the boards, into the goal frame or in open ice.
I don't expect you to be able to see why it's a bad hit. I imagine if it were the other way found you'd be baying for blood. He charged, he hit the head from the blindside, he's going to get suspended and rightly so.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2013 11:39:53 GMT
What a shame , I'm pretty sure you saw plenty of hits like that 15 years ago ! Or have the laws on hitting changed . This was a game changer . Fact . The game had gone so soft it's unbelievable !!
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Post by Pies on May 5, 2013 11:57:00 GMT
The games not gone soft, it's about making sure that players don't have lasting effects of the game in retirement. I've seen the hit over and over again on ESPN and in no way is it a safe hit. It's a 2-3 game ban at least. He's skated more than 3 strides, hit him in the head and his feet aren't on the ice. In no uncertain terms was it safe or fair. The fact the guys had to leave the game with a head injury says all we need to know.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2013 12:09:11 GMT
The games not gone soft, it's about making sure that players don't have lasting effects of the game in retirement. I've seen the hit over and over again on ESPN and in no way is it a safe hit. It's a 2-3 game ban at least. He's skated more than 3 strides, hit him in the head and his feet aren't on the ice. In no uncertain terms was it safe or fair. The fact the guys had to leave the game with a head injury says all we need to know. If you watched the NHL in the mid 90's then you d retract that comment !! It's to the shoulder then momentum hits the head . He knows how to hit . Why wasn't it called immediately it was only a oen due to the fact the player couldn't return to the game
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Post by Dan on May 5, 2013 12:27:07 GMT
What a shame , I'm pretty sure you saw plenty of hits like that 15 years ago ! Or have the laws on hitting changed . This was a game changer . Fact . The game had gone so soft it's unbelievable !! Of course the game's changed. That's not even up for question. It's got faster, players have got fitter and more physically capable and therefore the hits allowed in the 80's have got to be outlawed for player safety. Very narrow-minded view from you Pidge. It was a game changer, Anaheim scored the game-winner on the resulting powerplay. I hope he's proud of himself.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2013 12:39:20 GMT
What a shame , I'm pretty sure you saw plenty of hits like that 15 years ago ! Or have the laws on hitting changed . This was a game changer . Fact . The game had gone so soft it's unbelievable !! Of course the game's changed. That's not even up for question. It's got faster, players have got fitter and more physically capable and therefore the hits allowed in the 80's have got to be outlawed for player safety. Very narrow-minded view from you Pidge. It was a game changer, Anaheim scored the game-winner on the resulting powerplay. I hope he's proud of himself. Why should you be concerned about how a Detroit player feels , shouldn't you be concentrating on the flyers ... Oh wait a minute ;D Hopefully the ducks player is out for as long as Abs is , we ll just dress Tootoo/bertuzzi to cover him ;D
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Post by Shaggy on May 5, 2013 12:41:47 GMT
Pidge... you're trying to defend the indefensible here. No way was that a clean hit... he quite clearly leaves his feet - launching himself upwards as he's making the hit - and checks to the head. Granted he wasn't striding as he hit - he was, as you say, gliding - but in no way at all was he slowing down either!
Bad hit, correct call by the refs, eminently suspendable.
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Post by Dan on May 5, 2013 12:47:25 GMT
Of course the game's changed. That's not even up for question. It's got faster, players have got fitter and more physically capable and therefore the hits allowed in the 80's have got to be outlawed for player safety. Very narrow-minded view from you Pidge. It was a game changer, Anaheim scored the game-winner on the resulting powerplay. I hope he's proud of himself. Why should you be concerned about how a Detroit player feels , shouldn't you be concentrating on the flyers ... Oh wait a minute ;D Hopefully the ducks player is out for as long as Abs is , we ll just dress Tootoo/bertuzzi to cover him ;D Classic Pidge, can't discuss a point without descending into childish rubbish and point scoring. On top of that, you're wishing relatively serious injury on a player, what a disgrace.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2013 12:51:27 GMT
I ain't discussing the hit with you any more because quite clearly you seem to know more about the game than people who have played it and Mr Newham is never wrong is he ?
Ps that player didn't look hurt just shook up . He would have been told to rest up as a precaution
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Post by Shaggy on May 5, 2013 13:18:14 GMT
I ain't discussing the hit with you any more because quite clearly you seem to know more about the game than people who have played it and Mr Newham is never wrong is he ? So who are you going to discuss it with - people who agree with you and nobody else? You going to discuss it with me? - no personal stuff from my end, simply an analysis of what was clearly visible. Abdelkader clearly leaves his feet... he's driving up with a clear upwards motion as he makes the hit... lines him up, targets the guy from halfway across the zone, skates in and bam! Would probably have been a clean hit if he hadn't driven upwards... but he lines the guy up and took him out in a completely deliberate fashion... there's nothing accidental or unintentional there, nothing that can be blamed on the recipient changing position or whatever - the responsibility is 100% Abdelkader's. Bad hit, bad (for Detroit) outcome... all Abdelkader's fault. Congratulations numbnuts, you just cost your team a goal (and possibly the game). Pure supposition and you know it. Head injuries - barring cuts which bleed like a <female dog> - have no visible indicators, and often don't actually manifest symptoms until some time after the injury. What you say is possible. What is easily as possible - if not more likely - is that he's going to be out injured, possibly with concussion.
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Post by Dan on May 5, 2013 13:23:10 GMT
There are 4 people in this discussion. 3 of them feel it was a dirty hit and only you, the Detroit fan, think it was clean. Have you considered the fact that it might actually be you who's wrong? What players are you on about? Zetterberg? What possible bias might he have eh? Every writer and ex-pro i've seen talk about it have agreed with the decision, but then Mr Pidgeon is never wrong is he?
The irony in your post is quite remarkable. Quite clearly you seem to know more about the player's injury than the doctors who have checked him out.
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