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Post by NickThePanther44 on Jul 28, 2012 22:19:57 GMT
Cracking signing and just what we need,we have the younger workhorses already,Ling will provide the experience and guile up front. Lacking team toughness ? Thats cobblers,Lee,Fox and Beckett will all fight and so will Lepine. If Lepine gets in the AHL as he wants to and doesn't come back, then we will get two AHL dmen instead of one more and at least one of those two will be tough. You've missed the point completely, if we sign Lepine then brilliant. We're talking about the team now and that doesn't include Leps.
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Post by iginla on Jul 28, 2012 22:35:16 GMT
No i havn't Nick.
Lepine wants a shot at the AHL so Corey is giving him time because Corey wants Lepine back.
If he comes back then we get Lepine and one AHL dman. If he doesn't come back then we will get two AHL dmen and one of them will be tough to replace Lepine.
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Jul 28, 2012 23:33:57 GMT
No i havn't Nick. Lepine wants a shot at the AHL so Corey is giving him time because Corey wants Lepine back. If he comes back then we get Lepine and one AHL dman. If he doesn't come back then we will get two AHL dmen and one of them will be tough to replace Lepine. Well if I was privy to the same info you are then perhaps I wouldn't of wrote what I did earlier. The fact is though we still lack toughness, is that not the case? To say we'll either have Lepine or an equivalent is brilliant but at this moment in time we don't. The comments on here refer to that so I don't see how they're rubbish.
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Post by cooperphil156 on Jul 29, 2012 7:26:38 GMT
Robbo "I'm pretty sure schooling isn't the reason he's down your way." An interesting answer from a Steelers fan. As suggested by Timay you have missed the point. He isnt going to Panthers just to study at Derby! It is a package which means that within the budget which Corey has to work he becomes affordable. The concept of working within a budget is one Steelers fans may not be familiar with. This is the reason that last years captain was released, allowing Corey to spend elsewhere. One thinks that he also views the study at Derby as deserving merit also. Finnerty obviously is assisted by the package at Sheffield Hallam allowing him to spend on other players.
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Post by pantherdman on Jul 29, 2012 8:20:44 GMT
Wonder if the steelers went bust owing some school fees? Maybe the UNi now wants the feed up front and that plus his wages was un affordable.
Maybe he just chose a more stable club and finnerty is just bitter. If he saw poor work rate in Italy why would he even try to sign him?
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Post by pantherdman on Jul 29, 2012 8:27:07 GMT
Lepine ain't going to get in the AHL, so he should be back. Good news.
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Post by KIGOIUK on Jul 29, 2012 9:33:51 GMT
Dody wood used to play with Ling at Kansas City for a couple of seasons , Dody is over from Canada at the moment visiting his Twin Daughters , He told me youre in for a treat with Ling . not going to jinx it but is this the Season ? we are certainly replaceing class with class . lets hope for an injury free season and be there or there abouts after xmas .
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Post by lee on Jul 29, 2012 11:15:52 GMT
not going to jinx it but is this the Season ? . ;D pretty sure thats said around this time EVERY season when we see our team on paper. what worries me is Belfast, Christiansen has a great rep of siging top quality players and they are yet to show their hand... Quality across the league seems to have gone up across all Northern conference teams. should be entertaining but i think winning the league will be a tough task this year with the new structure.
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Post by richard1969 on Jul 29, 2012 12:30:09 GMT
Not sure winning the League will be the big thing it used to be now the format has changed - similar to other countries with separate conferences etc I think playoffs will become the number one target now
Monitoring where we stand and comparing results that arent like for like is going to be a pain IMO
Challenge of winning the League has been spoilt for me tbh
Happy with new signing but I do agree we need toughness adding - you need toughness in all sports but ice hockey more than most
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Post by StolenAngelSlice on Jul 29, 2012 13:10:54 GMT
Good signing I really hope he lives up to the pedigree! As with most, the 2 remaining imports need to be tough as nails, very much Weller-esque. Really do not get the fascination with Lepine, I would rather upgrade him with great defencemen with toughness. IMO Lepine is not great in the defence department and looking at the toughness around the league I would also say he's not up to par there either.
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Post by richard1969 on Jul 29, 2012 13:18:38 GMT
If lepine is not upto the toughness of the League then it must have seriously increased
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Post by Doom on Jul 29, 2012 13:34:34 GMT
Great signing for you folks, this guy should be capable of 40 goals in our league.
What do you think your lines are going to be now your forwards are complete?
Regards
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Post by Gilly on Jul 29, 2012 14:04:21 GMT
Great signing for you folks, this guy should be capable of 40 goals in our league. What do you think your lines are going to be now your forwards are complete? Regards Doom we seem to be overloaded with players who can play centre so to hazard a guess: Benedict - Fox - Galivan Clarke - Graham - Ling Lacho - Myers - Francis Ward - Levers - (space) Neilson - (Import) Beckett - Weaver Lee - (Import) Norton Kowalski Green
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Post by sameagain on Jul 29, 2012 14:44:16 GMT
Seems that Simms seems to be saying they could have signed Ling but he only wanted a one year Uni course and Sheffield only do two. The usual suspects have all agreed with him, don't they ever wonder, it might be that he turned them down. The rubbish that has come from them reaches new lows with every post.
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Post by Spoonerdudes on Jul 29, 2012 16:10:09 GMT
Seems that Simms seems to be saying they could have signed Ling but he only wanted a one year Uni course and Sheffield only do two. The usual suspects have all agreed with him, don't they ever wonder, it might be that he turned them down. The rubbish that has come from them reaches new lows with every post. to be fair, i had heard something similar when we were interested, He was after a one year uni course...that was a sticking point.. Just enjoy the fact you have him, i am genuinely jealous you got him and not us, i would have been made up if we had him.
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Post by StolenAngelSlice on Jul 29, 2012 18:20:20 GMT
If lepine is not upto the toughness of the League then it must have seriously increased I believe it has. Last year there were only a handful of tough players, King and Jurynec the pick, of which Lepine only had the better of one. But don't get me wrong, my biggest reason for not having Lepine back is that there are better defencemen out there and I fully expect the Panthers to have only the best if they want to win.
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Jul 29, 2012 18:33:00 GMT
Lepine is tough enough to hang with the current enforcers in the league.
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Post by Lord of the Rinks on Jul 29, 2012 18:54:42 GMT
not going to jinx it but is this the Season ? . ;D pretty sure thats said around this time EVERY season when we see our team on paper. what worries me is Belfast, Christiansen has a great rep of siging top quality players and they are yet to show their hand... Quality across the league seems to have gone up across all Northern conference teams. should be entertaining but i think winning the league will be a tough task this year with the new structure. DC signed some quality players last season and look what they won.
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Post by tessier26 on Jul 29, 2012 19:33:29 GMT
If lepine is not upto the toughness of the League then it must have seriously increased I believe it has. Last year there were only a handful of tough players, King and Jurynec the pick, of which Lepine only had the better of one. But don't get me wrong, my biggest reason for not having Lepine back is that there are better defencemen out there and I fully expect the Panthers to have only the best if they want to win. I thought Lepine was very good, not the best but certainly better than most of our defence since i have been a fan (2007). I would love someone in the Mike Rees mould with more skill!
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Post by tessier26 on Jul 29, 2012 19:43:53 GMT
Depends if his body's held up as well as Beauregard's and how fit he's kept himself. Beauregard season before joining Panthers 21 points in 24 games in the Italian league, David Ling season before joining Panthers 88 points in 48 games in the Italian league And how does that relate to his current fitness level and work ethic?
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Post by cooperphil156 on Jul 29, 2012 19:55:57 GMT
I think that I have read in some reviews that Lings work ethic is second to none. I understand that the Panthers fitness regime and rehabilitation are excellent. If these are in fact in place, we could be in for a real treat this season.
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Post by StolenAngelSlice on Jul 29, 2012 20:01:37 GMT
I believe it has. Last year there were only a handful of tough players, King and Jurynec the pick, of which Lepine only had the better of one. But don't get me wrong, my biggest reason for not having Lepine back is that there are better defencemen out there and I fully expect the Panthers to have only the best if they want to win. I thought Lepine was very good, not the best but certainly better than most of our defence since i have been a fan (2007). I would love someone in the Mike Rees mould with more skill! Not wishing to seem argumentative but we haven't exactly had much to compare him to. If you liken him to Weller or Hoffman, that's where I'm coming from.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2012 22:21:13 GMT
Profile of Ling which is in German, for those of you who speak it. For those like me who don't, there are a couple of titbits that can be picked up, i.e. he says near the end that he is in great shape and also that he wants to play until he's 40. Also encouraging to see he has no front teeth, i.e. he looks like a proper hockey player
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Post by bill238 on Jul 30, 2012 2:03:33 GMT
Beauregard season before joining Panthers 21 points in 24 games in the Italian league, David Ling season before joining Panthers 88 points in 48 games in the Italian league And how does that relate to his current fitness level and work ethic? The original point in this quote was about age not always being a factor e.g DAB and then you said ' Depends if his body's held up as well as Beauregard's and how fit he's kept himself'. Surely based on the figure I quoted above his body has held up more then good and he is still a top, top player. You can go on trying to ignore the evidence that has been presented about this player such as the consistent reviews from people who have actually seen him play and how he is still in top shape and the style of player he is i.e one that wears his heart on the sleeve and 'doesn't know the meaning of the word quit'. His stats are literally incredible and is IMO the best signing by quite some distance the panthers have made in the EIHL era (bar the lockout)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2012 15:13:21 GMT
the style of player he is i.e one that wears his heart on the sleeve and 'doesn't know the meaning of the word quit' Add to that the quote by the commentator in the second of the two clips I posted above, which I think is from a game the season before last: 'Ling, ever the agitator.....'. Sounds good to me.
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