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Post by girdeaux on Oct 21, 2004 11:54:51 GMT
As pleased as I am for the way Panthers played in Europe & I have openly congratulated all those connected with the club for their efforts involved... Why have a t-shirt that celebrates the simple fact that it was a glorious failure? Panthers t-shirt |
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Post by RBR97 on Oct 21, 2004 12:04:31 GMT
The team wants to make as much money as possible, this is a new area to make money in for a short time,
because we didnt get slaughted in Europe and the fact we didn't go through because of goal difference, i am sure some people will want to wear a t-shirt with pride that we showed Europe british hockey can put up a good fight!!!
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Post by MP on Oct 21, 2004 12:07:47 GMT
Perhaps they've had second thoughts - the official site seems to have vanished at the moment  |
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Post by girdeaux on Oct 21, 2004 12:14:32 GMT
The team wants to make as much money as possible, this is a new area to make money in for a short time And there I thought it was me being cynical ;D because we didnt get slaughted in Europe and the fact we didn't go through because of goal difference, i am sure some people will want to wear a t-shirt with pride that we showed Europe british hockey can put up a good fight!!! A valid point and I think we should be rightly proud of the way our team played, but we might have well got t-shirts for the 2003 CC final saying " Panthers 2 Steelers 3...We made the final...Mission complete" |
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Post by RBR97 on Oct 21, 2004 12:30:43 GMT
but we might have well got t-shirts for the 2003 CC final saying " Panthers 2 Steelers 3...We made the final...Mission complete" well yeh they missed out there and probably don;t want to miss out on such things again. seen the odd t-shirt around with the CC victory score on the back, and also those CC hats that where around and would have been very very popular if gone on sale. i was always expecting some kind of special jersey for our Europe trip, sure some people would have gone for those. Limited Edition kind of things |
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Post by Lucy on Oct 21, 2004 12:47:00 GMT
As pleased as I am for the way Panthers played in Europe & I have openly congratulated all those connected with the club for their efforts involved... Why have a t-shirt that celebrates the simple fact that it was a glorious failure? Panthers t-shirtBit harsh to call it a glorious failure. I sorted my own 'unique' t-shirt for the weekend, and loads of people commented on it and would have liked one. Had we gone through to the next round, I had every intention of contacting Panthers management to suggest they produced something for the travelling fans. I'd love to see more stuff in the shop - folders, pens etc. I realise that the Panthers budget is way different to that of a football club, but could we at least investigate selling other stuff? |
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Post by MP on Oct 21, 2004 12:57:35 GMT
I'd love to see more stuff in the shop - folders, pens etc. I realise that the Panthers budget is way different to that of a football club, but could we at least investigate selling other stuff? That's the crux of the problem I suspect Lucy. The market is very small so it needs someone knowledgable and dedicated (how are you fixed? ) to run such a marketing operation, or it has to be done through the agency of a larger vendor who can handle small amounts of bespoke goods, as with the Online shop. Incidentally, has anyone used the online shop? |
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Post by Mythosman on Oct 21, 2004 13:01:14 GMT
I have to agree that the Club is trying to retrieve itself from the merchandising black hole that it has created for itself yet again. As far as I recall, both Manchester and Sheffield produced Limited Edition shirts for their forays into the Continental Cup.
In my opinion, the Club has boobed big time in not doing the same this year. With around 300 of us there, they would have made a mint, even if only 50% had bought them.
Mind you, given their inability to acquire sufficient numbers of the various sizes of the regular season shirts to meet demand, perhaps the production of a Limited Edition collectors item was always likely to be a bridge too far?
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Post by girdeaux on Oct 21, 2004 13:05:17 GMT
Bit harsh to call it a glorious failure. It's true though. Surely the aim of going into Europe was to progress in the competion? I'm going to take flak for this thread, but I've already stated that while we rightly have our heads held high & we've (hopefully) done the sport in this country some good. But Panthers have themselves used the words " mission accomplished." If their mission was to remain unbeaten then hey that's fine, but I seriously doubt it and I would like to think their aim was to progress to the next stage... I sorted my own 'unique' t-shirt for the weekend, and loads of people commented on it and would have liked one. That's different Lucy, you aren't trying to sell something to your fans & marketing it in a rather cynical manner |
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Post by martin on Oct 21, 2004 13:30:53 GMT
Probably their mission was not to take too much of a beating. Of course they would have secretly hoped to go onto win the comp. but I very much doubt that it was their specific aim. For me failure doesn't come into it.
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Post by fightygirl on Oct 21, 2004 13:32:52 GMT
Probably their mission was not to take too much of a beating. Of course they would have secretly hoped to go onto win the comp. but I very much doubt that it was their specific aim. For me failure doesn't come into it. No failure doesn't come into it - we played damn well with a short bench. Fair enough we didn't go through, but just look at how well they did....be proud of that!  |
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Post by Heanor Lair on Oct 21, 2004 13:56:37 GMT
Ive got my Amiens Hockey Shirt which I'll be wearing on Saturday (and of course at Coventry v Steelers on Sunday ;D).
The shirt will always remind me of that fabulous weekend.
HL
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Post by Lucy on Oct 21, 2004 14:23:35 GMT
That's the crux of the problem I suspect Lucy. The market is very small so it needs someone knowledgable and dedicated (how are you fixed? ) to run such a marketing operation, or it has to be done through the agency of a larger vendor who can handle small amounts of bespoke goods, as with the Online shop. Incidentally, has anyone used the online shop? Yeh, I'm dedicated - where do I start? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2004 19:17:20 GMT
I for one certainly would love to see the Devils making more items to sell down the rink, I remember being amazed when I came to Notts in Playoffs at how much stuff you guys sold in your shop so i certainly wouldn't be complaining bout these t-shirts, end of the day if the club is going to be making money outta the things it can't be a bad thing can it?!
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Post by Ian on Oct 21, 2004 20:04:23 GMT
That's the crux of the problem I suspect Lucy. The market is very small so it needs someone knowledgable and dedicated (how are you fixed? ) to run such a marketing operation, or it has to be done through the agency of a larger vendor who can handle small amounts of bespoke goods, as with the Online shop. Incidentally, has anyone used the online shop? Fair enough MP, but back in the 80s when I was a kid watching the Panthers, I had a Panthers t shirt, jumper, sweatshirt and boxer shorts, school bag, pencil case, pens and pencils, notepads, pictures, team posters with stickers of players to collect etc. etc. etc. All with a fanbase of below 3,000 and no proper outlet to sell the stuff other than the tables on match nights. Surely it is not beyond the bounds of possibility to have a wider range now? |
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Post by MP on Oct 21, 2004 22:47:36 GMT
Surely it is not beyond the bounds of possibility to have a wider range now? No Ian, given the right people it could be done again. Who used to run the merchandising in those days and did they do it as an outright commercial operation or as a service by a dedicated supporter? |
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Post by Milkman™ on Oct 22, 2004 0:47:40 GMT
No Ian, given the right people it could be done again. Who used to run the merchandising in those days and did they do it as an outright commercial operation or as a service by a dedicated supporter? The latter |
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Post by Bretters on Oct 22, 2004 1:57:59 GMT
I dont think many people would use it to be honest. Maybe fans who dont live that close to the arena or ones who dont get to the games much might use it, but apart from that its easier just to pop down or go in on a match night, and you will probably have to pay an extra charge for postage etc.
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Post by girdeaux on Oct 22, 2004 7:19:40 GMT
I dont think many people would use it to be honest. Maybe fans who dont live that close to the arena or ones who dont get to the games much might use it, but apart from that its easier just to pop down or go in on a match night, and you will probably have to pay an extra charge for postage etc. They don't sell the merchandise that's online in the NIC shop do they?! |
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Post by Bretters on Oct 22, 2004 12:28:38 GMT
The only thing i havnt seen in the shop is the polo t-shirts, but everything else is in the shop (Tracksuits, Jackets, T-shirts)
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Post by girdeaux on Oct 22, 2004 14:31:03 GMT
The only thing i havnt seen in the shop is the polo t-shirts, but everything else is in the shop (Tracksuits, Jackets, T-shirts) Cool |
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Post by heja on Oct 22, 2004 16:40:50 GMT
I think these T-shirts are a weird idea really as some one say it is really just saying that we were the first losers.
yes we did very well but hardly misson complete, its not complete untill we win the Competion (that means going through all the rounds and to the final and winning.
but i will bring panthers money which is a good idea
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Post by Bretters on Oct 22, 2004 16:47:00 GMT
I seen the t-shirts today, there not bad, but i wouldnt buy one myself. Just a black t-shirt with orange writing on it, but its a good idea though.
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Post by bobness on Oct 22, 2004 17:30:54 GMT
Key words "rushed through". The merchandising has been pretty poor for a good while now, but most things like these have minmum runs to make them economic to produce and maybe these exceed likely sales? Or would they, if the price went down? Would you rather get £45ish a shirt from 500 people or £30 from 1000? The latter, obviously, other things being equal. Same goes for ticket prices, but these are brave decisons by mangement and seldom seen.
At least we don't have those fabulous Panthers ladies pants any more......
Marketing in general is not great, but isn't too bad IMO.
"Half my marketing budget is wasted. I just don't know which half." said a very wise man once.
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