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Post by pantherdman on Jun 8, 2011 8:15:51 GMT
Oh, yes, agree, thought we had 4 import D, miss counted, not loving it so much now :-)
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Post by heja on Jun 8, 2011 8:19:38 GMT
Thank god! loving your work Corey! Still would have preferred to go with 4 import D. A couple of reasons. Both Lepine and Neilson take pretty big PIMS. That is going to mean a fair amount of work for Meyers and Lee. If we go with 3 import D we really need Maynard to be a capable player right from the get go and take at least as much ice time as Norton. Also, Who is going to be the "10th" forward? Corey takes less that 2mins a game on average (1.76 to be precise) hardly big PIMs. Lepine had a high number of penalties last year but I bet 2/3 of them were from Fighting or Match or Game pens from big hits which I don't think he will get next year as he seemed to learn to play with in the new rules during the second half of last year. with his fighting and harsh suspensions he was only getting 4 PIMs a game on average. I just don't like having 10imports as if you get one injury you can just about compete but get 2 or 3 and you pretty much might as well throw away your chances of winning.
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Post by Panthers_44 on Jun 8, 2011 8:29:32 GMT
Also, Who is going to be the "10th" forward? Lachowicz or Levers will be, although both should have a more active role within the team really, can't say i'm too happy about going with 3 import d-men either, but what can you do? So i'll take it that it'll be another year of sexy Neilson hockey?
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Post by blackandgold73 on Jun 8, 2011 8:35:15 GMT
RE: Francis' +/- stats.
Understand that his +/- stats have raised a few eyebrows. However, for the past two seasons at Gwinnet Francis's coach has always played him against the oppositions top line because of the strong defensive nature to his game. Which means he has always been on the ice when the oppositions strongest and most likely to score players are on the ice. Hopefully this info will put his +/- rating in a truer perspective.
Best, B&G73
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Post by Mythosman on Jun 8, 2011 8:35:55 GMT
Surely, if they haven't already signed a multi-year contract with a club Bill, all players effectively become 'Free Agents' by default at the end of each season? I believe what he is trying to say is Panthers are not looking to re-sign him and he isn't looking to re-sign anymore. I had actually worked that out Heja - was just making a general point about 'Free Agent' status. Nonetheless, great news IMHO - maybe Corey is actually learning from his mistakes? ;D
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Post by Panthers_44 on Jun 8, 2011 8:38:29 GMT
RE: Francis' +/- stats. Understand that his +/- stats have raised a few eyebrows. However, for the past two seasons at Gwinnet Francis's coach has always played him against the oppositions top line because of the strong defensive nature to his game. Which means he has always been on the ice when the oppositions strongest and most likely to score players are on the ice. Hopefully this info will put his +/- rating in a truer perspective. Best, B&G73 Something was mentioned in the Post about that, also, apparently Francis was recommended by Cook who seems to be our chief scout
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Post by Rob Scott on Jun 8, 2011 8:38:39 GMT
I still think Tkaczuk is one of them. I hope you are right but what makes you think that?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2011 8:45:32 GMT
RE: Francis' +/- stats. Understand that his +/- stats have raised a few eyebrows. However, for the past two seasons at Gwinnet Francis's coach has always played him against the oppositions top line because of the strong defensive nature to his game. Which means he has always been on the ice when the oppositions strongest and most likely to score players are on the ice. Hopefully this info will put his +/- rating in a truer perspective. Best, B&G73 Something was mentioned in the Post about that, also, apparently Francis was recommended by Cook who seems to be our chief scout Yes and cook recommended a certain someone to corey last year? Jon Pelle!
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Post by Heanor Lair on Jun 8, 2011 9:00:33 GMT
This is exactly the signing Panthers were crying out for last year a versitle forward who can play either wing or centre (I personally think he will play wing) but also with some defensive attributes as well.
I can see him sharing 2nd and 3rd line duties and if this guy comes on as third line I think the opposition will be deflated with his spped and strength.
Well done Corey.
I would have liked 4 import D, but Corey puts a lot of faith in Meyers and Lee.
Last 2 forwards: Certainly Benedict, and a big power RW.
Last D -man : Please let him be a stay at home d-man.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2011 9:50:43 GMT
This is exactly the signing Panthers were crying out for last year a versitle forward who can play either wing or centre (I personally think he will play wing) but also with some defensive attributes as well. I can see him sharing 2nd and 3rd line duties and if this guy comes on as third line I think the opposition will be deflated with his spped and strength. Well done Corey. I would have liked 4 import D, but Corey puts a lot of faith in Meyers and Lee. Last 2 forwards: Certainly Benedict, and a big power RW. Last D -man : Please let him be a stay at home d-man. HL It seems Benny i nailed on which im happy about, as for the other forward, im hoping for either Graham or Bootland, the later i know more about of cause, and would put up good numbers. Im hoping our d man is Hoffman or of the like
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Post by StolenAngelSlice on Jun 8, 2011 10:09:05 GMT
Certainly a wait and see signing, if speeds his game I really hope he can finished a check like Bellamy as that was quite important in gaining turnovers. Hopefully, Corey comes good with this signing as seen with Ryan last year and perhaps his defensive capabilities will go somewhat to compensate for the 3 import D...
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Post by abc123 on Jun 8, 2011 10:50:21 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2011 11:02:18 GMT
No 19 ! theres a clip of him in a interview and it shows u him in training, he does look pretty quick and alert , capable in the FO circle too .
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Post by Rob Scott on Jun 8, 2011 11:10:51 GMT
If Francis is going to play Centre and if we do sign Benedict who I also believe is a Centre we would have 3 import Centre's.
Benedict
Fox
Francis
Does this mean that Matt Myers may revert to winger? I do think he is good in the face off circle though.
You could go with a 2nd line of
DAB Fox Myers
I thought DAB and Myers worked well together at the beginning of last season.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2011 11:17:03 GMT
I can see the forward lines being something like this
DAB Import (benedict ?) Heerema
Francis Fox Import
Lacho Myers Clarke
Levers
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Post by jd on Jun 8, 2011 11:17:38 GMT
No Jade then? A loss of 90+points from last season, but people say that will help us with him not being around. I'm not sure
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Post by Rob Scott on Jun 8, 2011 11:19:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2011 11:19:19 GMT
No Jade then? A loss of 90+points from last season, but people say that will help us with him not being around. I'm not sure Not a team player , if fit Benedict should manage 90 pts
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Post by Heanor Lair on Jun 8, 2011 12:26:43 GMT
If Francis is going to play Centre and if we do sign Benedict who I also believe is a Centre we would have 3 import Centre's. Benedict Fox Francis Does this mean that Matt Myers may revert to winger? I do think he is good in the face off circle though. You could go with a 2nd line of DAB Fox Myers I thought DAB and Myers worked well together at the beginning of last season. ftm - I would suggest his primary role is a winger: Lines (Galbraith?) (Benedict?) Clarke Heerema Fox DAB Francis Myers Levers Lachowicz (Soar, Bowley) TBH I would see the 1st line being set in stone, but the 2nd and 3rd lines being quite flexiable with both Levers and Francis being able to switch the Wing/Centre roles if need be. HL
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Post by jd on Jun 8, 2011 12:42:59 GMT
No Jade then? A loss of 90+points from last season, but people say that will help us with him not being around. I'm not sure Not a team player , if fit Benedict should manage 90 pts Didnt realise he was that good a player
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Post by BigLad on Jun 8, 2011 12:43:16 GMT
Why all the call for Hoffman?
He started the season on fire last year, but was put out quicker than our title challenge.
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Post by BigLad on Jun 8, 2011 12:44:26 GMT
Oh and might as well forget about predictiing lines for now, as it's prolly a guarantee that at least one of the imports will change his mind like the few seasons lol.
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Post by pantherfan007 on Jun 8, 2011 13:04:24 GMT
To be fair, Jade was already mentioned on this thread so it's fair to talk about the fact his (apparent) departure creates a hole of 90 points to fill. I'd be very pleasantly suprised if any of our players this year manage the same tally.
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Post by Warren on Jun 8, 2011 13:39:18 GMT
To be fair, Jade was already mentioned on this thread so it's fair to talk about the fact his (apparent) departure creates a hole of 90 points to fill. I'd be very pleasantly suprised if any of our players this year manage the same tally. But would you take a 1-0 win from every game? In an extreme example of no assist on each goal, and that being split amongst all the players evenly, that's only 54pts, and 3pts per player... I am not knocking jade's output for the last few years. His points for this club is nothing to be sniffed at. Trouble is, to say that 90pts will be hard to replace is trivial. Who's to say that Hareema wont score 100pts? or Fox or any other player? Who's to say that our final winger won't be Pelle, a player who outscored Jade last season? Perhaps no Jade creates a better locker room, because of this every returning player increases his points output? My personal opinion, is no to Jade. Again IMO, he should of been gone in Belfast. Back on Topic. As with all signings that are new to the team, I reserve Judgement until he is on the ice. I have seen "Great pedigree" be wasted, I've seen "bobbins" players become Fan favourites.
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Post by StolenAngelSlice on Jun 8, 2011 14:30:20 GMT
If Heerema and DAB can continue with the form that they had during the play offs, compensating for that figure wouldn't be as difficult as your making out IMO. Put a top centre with them two and the potential is easily there.
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