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Post by loveday on Dec 8, 2010 12:33:23 GMT
They are setting a precendence for any team who want to start a fight. You start a fight, the other team will get the bans.
They injure K-wall. They injure Danny and they get awaywith it. Tommo who will Coach with his mobile phone from the fans seats so that will not make any difference. Nell is only a youngster and they will replace him with a 2 way contract player. They will not miss Shanker as he has not been playing very well anyway and he might have got dropped before the end of the season anyway.
If this was football hope K-Wall would be taking Shankers to court for attacking him.
This is a farce.
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Post by Panthers_44 on Dec 8, 2010 12:35:06 GMT
I know it is only a one game suspension but how do they work out that Galbraith left the box? Looking at the gamesheet, Galbraith never had a penalty... www.eliteleague.co.uk/stats/game-summary.php?game_id=632Not going to comment on the rest of the penalties, think some will probably clear most of my thoughts.
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Post by Borussia10 on Dec 8, 2010 12:35:07 GMT
How did they injure Danny?
Thought he got injured in the game against Hull on Sunday?
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Post by Ms. Zamboni on Dec 8, 2010 12:36:03 GMT
interview with heermea just posted on the website - GM doing his thick with sarcasm "i'm not saying anything that'll get me into trouble" tone of vooice :-)
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Post by Rob Scott on Dec 8, 2010 12:36:29 GMT
They are setting a precendence for any team who want to start a fight. You start a fight, the other team will get the bans. They injure K-wall. They injure Danny and they get awaywith it. Tommo who will Coach with his mobile phone from the fans seats so that will not make any difference. Nell is only a youngster and they will replace him with a 2 way contract player. They will not miss Shanker as he has not been playing very well anyway and he might have got dropped before the end of the season anyway. If this was football hope K-Wall would be taking Shankers to court for attacking him. This is a farce. Meyers injured himself V Hull
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Post by loveday on Dec 8, 2010 12:39:15 GMT
Just to make it clear for everyone. The bans to Penner and Galbraith mean that we are 2 imports down for the game those bans relate to. In the game where they are both banned the maximum number of imports that we can ice will be 9. If Heerema plays it will be at the expense of one of our other imports. For example if Heerema plays on Saturday if would have to be in place of for example McDonald. So we would be without Penner, Galbraith and McDonald. Lets hope they drop Zion. He has been rubbish since he got injured and the last 2 games he has been so lazy . Clarkie had to tell him off on Sunday more than once.
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Post by Ms. Zamboni on Dec 8, 2010 12:40:33 GMT
Meyers injured himself V Hull[/quote]
yep, danny & hull player shaped up to fight, both hanging onto each other then danny just dropped his arm and his head in a "i'm out" gtype gesture after no punches thrown - so don't know if he managed to yank his own arm out of the socket or soemthing?
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Post by Pies on Dec 8, 2010 12:41:51 GMT
Some baffling decisions there. We get punished for standing up for our players - Penner leaving the box deserves the one game ban and those penalties I understand. But the additional 4 are just a joke. Davey Grahams I accept was right. Danny's - well he'd miss those games through injury anyway so not gonna argue that. jaegar should get a penalty for trying to instigate more trouble after Lepine had gone to the bench.
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Post by Kirk55 on Dec 8, 2010 12:44:42 GMT
Is that right? I thought it was the PLAYER that was banned therefore wouldn't be allowed to ice no matter what team he plays for, therefore we can keep our number of imports up? We had this already this season. If an import is banned, then you lose an import spot on your roster till the ban is finished. Simples. Oh right was that the case last season seem to remember someone got banned but we had a replacement (think it was Toneys) who played instead? Whats the rule on injured players? would we have to deregister an import for a set number of games to allow someone else to come in or has that changed as well?
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Dec 8, 2010 12:45:43 GMT
We had this already this season. If an import is banned, then you lose an import spot on your roster till the ban is finished. Simples. Oh right was that the case last season seem to remember someone got banned but we had a replacement (think it was Toneys) who played instead? Whats the rule on injured players? would we have to deregister an import for a set number of games to allow someone else to come in or has that changed as well? Yes changed.
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Post by Pies on Dec 8, 2010 12:46:11 GMT
We had this already this season. If an import is banned, then you lose an import spot on your roster till the ban is finished. Simples. Oh right was that the case last season seem to remember someone got banned but we had a replacement (think it was Toneys) who played instead? Whats the rule on injured players? would we have to deregister an import for a set number of games to allow someone else to come in or has that changed as well? It's been the case for a long while - definatly didnt happen last season. and teh set number of games rule changed last year too - you can deregister and register on a game by game basis now.
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Post by Kirk55 on Dec 8, 2010 12:47:50 GMT
Bloody hell our league is getting as hard to keep up with as the NHL now days
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Post by loveday on Dec 8, 2010 12:48:35 GMT
I know it is only a one game suspension but how do they work out that Galbraith left the box? Looking at the gamesheet, Galbraith never had a penalty... www.eliteleague.co.uk/stats/game-summary.php?game_id=632Not going to comment on the rest of the penalties, think some will probably clear most of my thoughts. Tripping-Minor , 2 min (PP) 2 - Penner, 7:22 - Charging-Minor , 2 min (PP) 2 - Penner, 7:22 - Roughing-Minor , 2 min 2 - Served By , 7:30 - Match Penalty , 25 min 2 - Lepine, 7:30 - Fighting-Major , 5 min 2 - Levers, 7:30 - Unsportsmanlike Cnd.-Minor , 2 min 2 - Penner, 7:30 - Leaving Player Bench-Minor , 2 min 2 - Penner, 7:30 - Excessive Roughness - Match , 25 min 2 - Penner, 7:30 - Game Misconduct , 20 min Was Jade serving as the extra player in the box for Penner double/triple penalty?
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Post by Robbie Nud on Dec 8, 2010 12:48:47 GMT
The bans i can live with on our part, its the cruckers one that gets me.. 9 games for intentioally going out and injuring our goalie. He didn't get 9 games for attacking the goalie. This was taken from the elite league site So the attack on K-Wall was only a 5 game ban! ![>:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/angry.png)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2010 12:52:50 GMT
Just one question. Was Cruikshanks ban broken down at all.
Remember, he got 2 Match Penalties, one for obscene gestures, then one for attacking K-Wall.
How many did he get for the obscene gesture? If it was 2, then he only got the same as Danny for his attack on K-Wall.
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Post by 5+game on Dec 8, 2010 12:53:29 GMT
I know it is only a one game suspension but how do they work out that Galbraith left the box? Looking at the gamesheet, Galbraith never had a penalty... www.eliteleague.co.uk/stats/game-summary.php?game_id=632Not going to comment on the rest of the penalties, think some will probably clear most of my thoughts. Tripping-Minor , 2 min (PP) 2 - Penner, 7:22 - Charging-Minor , 2 min (PP) 2 - Penner, 7:22 - Roughing-Minor , 2 min 2 - Served By , 7:30 - Match Penalty , 25 min 2 - Lepine, 7:30 - Fighting-Major , 5 min 2 - Levers, 7:30 - Unsportsmanlike Cnd.-Minor , 2 min 2 - Penner, 7:30 - Leaving Player Bench-Minor , 2 min 2 - Penner, 7:30 - Excessive Roughness - Match , 25 min 2 - Penner, 7:30 - Game Misconduct , 20 min Was Jade serving as the extra player in the box for Penner double/triple penalty? There was deffinately 3 players in the panthers box penner, levers and another must have been jade then.
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Post by Yotes on Dec 8, 2010 12:54:24 GMT
Penner leaving the box deserves the one game ban and those penalties I understand. But the additional 4 are just a joke. That's the one that really annoys me. Davey Grahams I accept was right. I've no problem with that, other than Thompson getting a lesser ban. Official site's version. Appears Fat Brad's assault on Kowalski has been judged the same as Meyers knocking Jaeger over. The league is a joke.
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Post by StolenAngelSlice on Dec 8, 2010 12:54:51 GMT
Just seen the list of decided bans on the players involved on Saturday and some I agree with totally but some I am a bit bemused about.
The bans to both Cruickshank and Meyers I believe are justified. What Meyers did was effectively the same as what Cruickshank did minus the aspect of pre-meditation. Hence, the extra 2 games handed BC's direction.
Galbraith I'm slightly confused by, as per the EIHL game sheet he wasn't in the box all game but would like to watch the video again to see if he's sat in there when Levers approaches the box.
No issues with Levers or Graham's bans, just convention acting there. However, Penner I believe has been punished with his reputation in mind. An additional 2 game ban for having a second altercation after the events had ended? Don't buy it I'm afraid. It takes two to tango (even though Lee got a beat down) to me it doesn't look as though Lee was backing down/turtling any time soon there.
Overall, a little disappointed with respect to Penner, 3 games would have been sufficient in my opinion. But as a whole I think the league has handed out a fair and reasonable amount of punishment.
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Post by meltbanana on Dec 8, 2010 12:55:25 GMT
I don't understand exactly what ban people want for cruickshank? It all seems fair to me. At the end of day, he ran kowalski which is a no no but it wasn't like he beat up a defenceless player. Kowalski saw him coming and countered the attack. It's just unfortunate that he got injured in the process. But 9 games seems about right. So do the other bans. At the end of the day, the "rulebook" dictates the bans and they seem to have used the correct bans.
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Post by tecpuldis on Dec 8, 2010 12:56:04 GMT
Yes, but it's annoying about Danny's in relation to Cruikshanks. Maybe if the league knew he'd be out injured, so they decided to give it longer???
The other's all seem fair. Maybe not Penner actually, seems he's been unduly punished for daring to win his fights!
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Post by 5+game on Dec 8, 2010 12:57:53 GMT
Ok so the game plan for Sheffield on 26th, send out josh ward to run muskrat injure him and let the steelers pick up a host of bans defending him.
5 games for deliberatly setting out to injure a player is a joke, doesnt realy show much of a deterent does it.
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Post by Panthers_44 on Dec 8, 2010 12:58:10 GMT
I know it is only a one game suspension but how do they work out that Galbraith left the box? Looking at the gamesheet, Galbraith never had a penalty... www.eliteleague.co.uk/stats/game-summary.php?game_id=632Not going to comment on the rest of the penalties, think some will probably clear most of my thoughts. Tripping-Minor , 2 min (PP) 2 - Penner, 7:22 - Charging-Minor , 2 min (PP) 2 - Penner, 7:22 - Roughing-Minor , 2 min 2 - Served By , 7:30 - Match Penalty , 25 min 2 - Lepine, 7:30 - Fighting-Major , 5 min 2 - Levers, 7:30 - Unsportsmanlike Cnd.-Minor , 2 min 2 - Penner, 7:30 - Leaving Player Bench-Minor , 2 min 2 - Penner, 7:30 - Excessive Roughness - Match , 25 min 2 - Penner, 7:30 - Game Misconduct , 20 min Was Jade serving as the extra player in the box for Penner double/triple penalty? Isn't the underline part Dave Grahams penalty?
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Post by meltbanana on Dec 8, 2010 12:59:30 GMT
Ok so the game plan for Sheffield on 26th, send out josh ward to run muskrat injure him and let the steelers pick up a host of bans defending him. 5 games for deliberatly setting out to injure a player is a joke, doesnt realy show much of a deterent does it. Where is the proof that he deliberately tried to injure a player?
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Post by panthersdave on Dec 8, 2010 13:01:42 GMT
My queries are:
1/ why Davey Graham and Paul Thompson have different bans for the same offence?
2/ Penner gets 5 games, 1 for leaving the box, the rest for continuing to fight Lee.......so Lee should get 4 games should he not?
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Post by Kirk55 on Dec 8, 2010 13:01:55 GMT
Ok so the game plan for Sheffield on 26th, send out josh ward to run muskrat injure him and let the steelers pick up a host of bans defending him. 5 games for deliberatly setting out to injure a player is a joke, doesnt realy show much of a deterent does it. Where is the proof that he deliberately tried to injure a player? Isn't the injury proof enough?
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