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Post by panthersftw on Jan 13, 2011 0:23:33 GMT
At the beginning of the season he went home so his neck could recover, we were told he would return. No mention of him ever since. Anybody know where he is/ what happened?
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Post by richard1969 on Jan 13, 2011 5:05:49 GMT
Can't remember anything about being told he would return
Plenty have hoped he would return on here
Do remember hearing he left with his wife twittering that family had been treated badly by panthers in how much notice they were given to leave
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Post by Pies on Jan 13, 2011 8:26:28 GMT
Not what we need at this moment - I will be highly disapointed if he's the player we bring in
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Post by Jay on Jan 13, 2011 10:52:38 GMT
Not what we need at this moment - I will be highly disapointed if he's the player we bring in +1 Agreed, i want to see a new player to these shores, someone that will blow our minds like weller has for cardiff..then again, heerema should of done that for us and i've yet to see him impress that greatly.
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Post by kezypanther on Jan 13, 2011 11:04:33 GMT
I dont think Heerema has done that bad, yes he goes pretty unoticed throughout the game but he still has 13 points in 10 game (7 goals, 6 assists) with only 6 pims. I dont think hes doing that bad.
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Post by Jay on Jan 13, 2011 11:26:11 GMT
But im pretty sure 7-8 of those points were from 2 capital games where we destroyed them.
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Post by Ghost on Jan 13, 2011 12:25:37 GMT
If you remember hereemas draft notes and comments from his former teams fans, they said he was leading scorer but no one noticed him on the ice. If he worked he would be awesome.
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Post by jerome29 on Jan 13, 2011 12:55:53 GMT
I don't think it has helped Heerema coming in mid season
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Post by pantherinmanc on Jan 13, 2011 14:02:27 GMT
I'd have Henderson back in a heartbeat, but he wont be back. Heerema needs time, you have to look at Mann for an example of how some players need some time to bed in. If Heerema hit top form in March we might win something!
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Post by sameagain on Jan 13, 2011 14:27:24 GMT
Former NHL players need time to settle in, only if they play for us, since Weller signed, Cardiff havn't lost a game, makes you wonder.
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Post by pantherinmanc on Jan 13, 2011 14:33:04 GMT
Former NHL players need time to settle in, only if they play for us, since Weller signed, Cardiff havn't lost a game, makes you wonder. Cardiff have more than just Weller to thank for their form, and he looked distinctly average last weekend. Must be easier for him to shine in a team in the kind of form Cardiff are enjoying than for Heerema at Panthers. That said I think Heerema has shown the promise and ability, just a bit more consistency needed. I certainly wouldn't want to see him go.
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Post by ted logan on Jan 13, 2011 14:58:00 GMT
I'd have Henderson back in a heartbeat, but he wont be back. Heerema needs time, you have to look at Mann for an example of how some players need some time to bed in. If Heerema hit top form in March we might win something! Didn't we sign Mann as a winger (looked ok but didn't set the world alight) then convert him to a Centre? Only then did he look like the player we thought he would be. Whatever it takes we need Heerema to hit top form sooner rather than later. Only shown glimpses so far needs to do it on a more consistent basis
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Post by Rich on Jan 13, 2011 15:05:59 GMT
Former NHL players need time to settle in, only if they play for us, since Weller signed, Cardiff havn't lost a game, makes you wonder. Cardiff have more than just Weller to thank for their form, and he looked distinctly average last weekend. Must be easier for him to shine in a team in the kind of form Cardiff are enjoying than for Heerema at Panthers. That said I think Heerema has shown the promise and ability, just a bit more consistency needed. I certainly wouldn't want to see him go. Why would a big, solid defensive D man shine? He was the best D man weve seen in the NIC this season by a country mile and is a huge part of the run theyve gone on! Heerema is pure end product. If hes not scoring its down to not getting the service. Thats not a compliment to him though, Id much rather he was doing the dirty work when the clean cut chances arent there.
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Post by Jay on Jan 13, 2011 15:39:45 GMT
Who you onabout Rich? i thought Weller was a winger?
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Post by Pies on Jan 13, 2011 15:53:27 GMT
Wellers a d man and in the game we played against them he was poor. Miscontrolled pucks and made bad plays. Apprantly it was his worst game since he came over
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Post by ted logan on Jan 13, 2011 15:56:42 GMT
Wellers a d man and in the game we played against them he was poor. Miscontrolled pucks and made bad plays. Apprantly it was his worst game since he came over Agreed. Couldn't believe it when he got their MOM on Saturday; definite case for 'Man Who the Sponsors Want Their Picture Taking With' award instead of what should be the MOM award. In fiarness though from what I've seen when he's good he is very good
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Post by Jay on Jan 13, 2011 16:32:05 GMT
Oh right, hockeydb had him listed as a winger and the fact he's got near enough 20 points already i figured he was...nevermind.
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Post by Yotes on Jan 13, 2011 16:35:37 GMT
He was a winger when he played in Phoenix, dunno when he shifted to defence.
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Post by pantherinmanc on Jan 13, 2011 16:37:12 GMT
Cardiff have more than just Weller to thank for their form, and he looked distinctly average last weekend. Must be easier for him to shine in a team in the kind of form Cardiff are enjoying than for Heerema at Panthers. That said I think Heerema has shown the promise and ability, just a bit more consistency needed. I certainly wouldn't want to see him go. Why would a big, solid defensive D man shine? He was the best D man weve seen in the NIC this season by a country mile and is a huge part of the run theyve gone on! Heerema is pure end product. If hes not scoring its down to not getting the service. Thats not a compliment to him though, Id much rather he was doing the dirty work when the clean cut chances arent there. Depends how you define 'shine' doesn't it? I don't see any reason that a D-man cannot 'shine' in the sense that he is highlighted as playing well and doing his job beyond expectations. I don't see why standing out or 'shining' has to be the reserve of forwards, points scorers or goal getters. Maybe it's just me but that's a lot of the problem with Panthers, totally pre-occupied with their definition of 'entertainment'. A good, solid defensive display is as much entertainment for me as the flashy run and gun hockey. it's all part of the game as far as i'm concerned. Agree on Heerema. I do think we need someone who will do that dirty work and it doesn't look like he is it but not sure that's ever been him in the past so perhaps unfair to expect it?
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Post by Rich on Jan 13, 2011 19:11:06 GMT
Why would a big, solid defensive D man shine? He was the best D man weve seen in the NIC this season by a country mile and is a huge part of the run theyve gone on! Heerema is pure end product. If hes not scoring its down to not getting the service. Thats not a compliment to him though, Id much rather he was doing the dirty work when the clean cut chances arent there. Depends how you define 'shine' doesn't it? I don't see any reason that a D-man cannot 'shine' in the sense that he is highlighted as playing well and doing his job beyond expectations. I don't see why standing out or 'shining' has to be the reserve of forwards, points scorers or goal getters. Maybe it's just me but that's a lot of the problem with Panthers, totally pre-occupied with their definition of 'entertainment'. A good, solid defensive display is as much entertainment for me as the flashy run and gun hockey. it's all part of the game as far as i'm concerned. Agree on Heerema. I do think we need someone who will do that dirty work and it doesn't look like he is it but not sure that's ever been him in the past so perhaps unfair to expect it? I think your exactly right, that is the problem. Give me 5 Wellers on a team and a semi decent goalie and I will deliver a title challenge better than the superstars here manage every year. Completely agree on Heerema, hes exactly what I expected. I just thought he might adapt a bit after a couple of weeks. Its an age old saying though that coaches have often used "a player too good for the team is as ineffective as a player not good enough". Heerema isnt quite that, but the principle applies, he needs to adjust. Defo one to watch for the playoffs though I think.
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Post by Rich on Jan 13, 2011 19:12:49 GMT
He was a winger when he played in Phoenix, dunno when he shifted to defence. From the info I got, he used to be a D man but played on the wing to a job in the NHL (often the case, as forwards are easier to carry than D men, see Wade Belak).
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Post by humbucker on Jan 13, 2011 22:18:52 GMT
For me Terry Kurtenbach was a D that was a joy to watch and there are few of that calibre around today. The game has probably changed and players such as he might find life somewhat different but for me he was a stand out player imho.
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Post by asbo26 on Jan 14, 2011 16:11:13 GMT
Jay Henderson !!!
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Post by panthersftw on Jan 14, 2011 16:45:55 GMT
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Post by humbucker on Jan 14, 2011 18:54:18 GMT
Who?
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