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Post by Adam on Nov 3, 2008 0:42:58 GMT
Personally i think McGugan deserved his red card he slid in stoods showing from 5 yards away and went straight over the top of the ball, dunno why he did it as a tackle wasn't needed like that. Draw was a fair result i thought in the end.
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Post by Shorty on Nov 3, 2008 7:18:00 GMT
I'm chuffed with that. The ref was a shocker. The penalty decision was a joke, but he did whistle and point to the spot before Derby had put the ball in the net, so no issue with that goal being dissallowed. The second one though at the end seemed completely fine, and no idea why he did not allow it.
I thought it was a harsh red card, as did the panel at the game, and perhaps with an extra body defending at the end of the game we would have stopped the controversy before it happened.
The offside decision was very poor as well when our two went clean through.
One of my Derby mates who was at the game insisted there was a foul before we scored - cant say I saw anything at all, and the replays on tv didnt show anything at all either. I think he was bitter!
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Post by Doughnut on Nov 3, 2008 9:35:16 GMT
So has Upshall run off squealing like a little girl then?
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Post by oldman on Nov 3, 2008 21:22:16 GMT
So has Upshall run off squealing like a little girl then? watched the oilers beat the flyers as well so maybe doughnut ;D |
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Post by Dan on Nov 4, 2008 10:58:42 GMT
Personally i think McGugan deserved his red card he slid in stoods showing from 5 yards away and went straight over the top of the ball, dunno why he did it as a tackle wasn't needed like that. Draw was a fair result i thought in the end. Not getting at you Adam, but that whole thing really bugs me. It is IMPOSSIBLE to put in a slide tackle without showing your studs. He went in one footed, he didn't lunge, he won the ball, he didn't come close to connecting with the opposition player and it was his first offense of the match. No red card. |
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Post by Dan on Nov 4, 2008 11:00:08 GMT
Derby got shafted. It wasn't a pen and so they'd have scored there. And of course they then scored another goal. If by 'shafted' you mean having a wrong red card in their favour, given a penalty for nothing and having a goal scored against them ruled out for nothing, then they were definitely shafted. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2008 14:35:05 GMT
Derby got shafted. It wasn't a pen and so they'd have scored there. And of course they then scored another goal. Having said that the red card was harsh. The ref had a mare and should be suspended. He does have form of course! Fair result. It's a poor league and Forest don't have to do much to climb the table. Burnley and Derby have shown that already. If you check the final score it will show derby scored 1 goal Forest would have been very unlucky to have lost that , very fair result Let the sheep moan all they like, we ll carry on laughing at them ;D |
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Post by sunbeam on Nov 4, 2008 14:45:21 GMT
Derby got shafted. It wasn't a pen and so they'd have scored there. And of course they then scored another goal. If by 'shafted' you mean having a wrong red card in their favour, given a penalty for nothing and having a goal scored against them ruled out for nothing, then they were definitely shafted. The red card is arguable. The pen saved Forest. As did the second dumb call. Yes they got shafted. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2008 14:52:04 GMT
If by 'shafted' you mean having a wrong red card in their favour, given a penalty for nothing and having a goal scored against them ruled out for nothing, then they were definitely shafted. The red card is arguable. The pen saved Forest. As did the second dumb call. Yes they got shafted. it finished 1-1 end of.  |
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Post by sunbeam on Nov 4, 2008 17:16:27 GMT
The red card is arguable. The pen saved Forest. As did the second dumb call. Yes they got shafted. it finished 1-1 end of. Really? Thanks for that. It's Tuesday today. |
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Post by Dan on Nov 5, 2008 14:24:04 GMT
If by 'shafted' you mean having a wrong red card in their favour, given a penalty for nothing and having a goal scored against them ruled out for nothing, then they were definitely shafted. The red card is arguable. The pen saved Forest. As did the second dumb call. Yes they got shafted. Behave. They had one perfectly good goal disallowed but were given a daft penalty to make up for it. We had a perfectly good goal wiped out and a man wrongly sent off (it's not even arguable) and we weren't given poo poo. With regards that last second effort: 1) Commons backed into Morgan during his jump. Little nudges mean a lot when you're in the air. 2) Apparently the corner went out before coming back in. 3) All this whilst 45 seconds over the allotted injury time. That's shafted? I think not. |
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Post by sunbeam on Nov 6, 2008 1:51:35 GMT
The red card is arguable. The pen saved Forest. As did the second dumb call. Yes they got shafted. Behave. They had one perfectly good goal disallowed but were given a daft penalty to make up for it. We had a perfectly good goal wiped out and a man wrongly sent off (it's not even arguable) and we weren't given doo doo. With regards that last second effort: 1) Commons backed into Morgan during his jump. Little nudges mean a lot when you're in the air. 2) Apparently the corner went out before coming back in. 3) All this whilst 45 seconds over the allotted injury time. That's shafted? I think not. Let me get this right......... bear with me because I'm trying to come to terms with the sheer stupidity of your comment........ you said......... a penalty makes up for a disallowed goal. Wow. Of course it does. Why have a certain goal when you can have a penalty? I'll disregard the Commons foul on Morgan comment. And I won't bother mentioning that time can be added on for the taking of a penalty. The ref was good to Derby. He gave them a pen instead of a goal. Maybe next time he'll be even kinder and give them a free kick instead. |
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Post by Dan on Nov 6, 2008 2:00:54 GMT
Sigh, sarcasm, the final bastion of the desperate.
I didn't think i'd need to explain this, but my point was that if you're going to have a goal disallowed for nothing, getting a penalty instead is an unexpected bonus. It's infinitely more than we were afforded in that situation. Furthermore, when you know what you're looking for, you can see Commons clearly backed into Morgan, which clearly affected his jump. As he was the man supposed to be marking the guy who scored, this is a fairly big point. Maybe you should do some watching instead of ignoring eh?
Either way you look at it, there's really no call for you to be such a complete silly person about it.
The bottom line is this. Derby had a perfectly good goal scored past them disallowed for a wrongful offside, Forest had a man sent off for a non-lunging, one footed tackle that won the ball and didn't catch the man and Derby were given a penalty for the most ludicrous non-handball for some time. In the last minute they may well have been screwed over, but over the entire game they certainly weren't. Hell, the last minute shenanigins would probably have not happened had McGugan not been sent off.
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