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Post by Rich on Apr 2, 2008 17:07:11 GMT
Yes its personal preference, read the poster, hes said he wants visors and asked about visors and got a reply telling him to get a cage!
I understand Buster, but you say youve trained once, maybe once youve used both for several years you might be able to make a more informed decision. It could still be a cage I understand that but as usual youve started a post with an agressive and daft statement.
Ross Lambert? He didnt wear a visor?!! I dont remember him playing for sheffield either though tbh. Its not an unnecessary IMO Rach, if youve always worn a full protector how have you managed to get slashed and had pucks in the face???
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Post by Monty #83 on Apr 2, 2008 18:09:36 GMT
Half visors are dangerous if you get a players stick wedged up there... the player then wiggles their stick trying to get free and takes your eye out. Didn't this happen to Ross Lambert when he was at Sheffield? Full visor everytime - I have the half visor and half cage, a bit like Monty's - I hated the full cage. I don't mind getting a new one every 5 years as they do get scratched. I protect mine in a sewn-up small hand towel (to create a bag effect) when in my kit bag. Pantherfan - totally agree with you. I've got slashed and had pucks in the face so many times. We do have to work, so there's no point in taking unneccessary risks. hey rach, can you get replacement half visors of our type of cage, do you know where? cheers
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Post by kilner on Apr 2, 2008 18:27:45 GMT
Yes its personal preference, read the poster, hes said he wants visors and asked about visors and got a reply telling him to get a cage! Nothing wrong with abit of advice while using common sense. Hockey's not all about looking cool ya know
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Post by Louisa on Apr 2, 2008 18:36:31 GMT
Ross Lambert? He didnt wear a visor?!! I dont remember him playing for sheffield either though tbh. Its not an unnecessary IMO Rach, if youve always worn a full protector how have you managed to get slashed and had pucks in the face??? Rich I did say I thought it was Ross Lambert... maybe it wasn't. It was someone in British hockey. I've been slashed in the face, but fortunately I've been wearing a "full visor". Had I have not been wearing it, I could have been serously hurt on several occasions. Stop being pedantic, you know what I mean!!
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Post by Rich on Apr 2, 2008 19:26:02 GMT
Ross Lambert? He didnt wear a visor?!! I dont remember him playing for sheffield either though tbh. Its not an unnecessary IMO Rach, if youve always worn a full protector how have you managed to get slashed and had pucks in the face??? Rich I did say I thought it was Ross Lambert... maybe it wasn't. It was someone in British hockey. I've been slashed in the face, but fortunately I've been wearing a "full visor". Had I have not been wearing it, I could have been serously hurt on several occasions. Stop being pedantic, you know what I mean!! hehe, pedantic, moi?! I do know what you mean but I used to get that all the time when wearing a cage, now I wear a visor I guess you learn not to skate face first at people when you got good looks like mine to protect
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Post by Rich on Apr 2, 2008 19:27:02 GMT
Yes its personal preference, read the poster, hes said he wants visors and asked about visors and got a reply telling him to get a cage! Nothing wrong with abit of advice while using common sense. Hockey's not all about looking cool ya know Of course it is, its about looking good and pulling chicks, thats the only reason I wear a half visor
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Post by ted on Apr 2, 2008 19:41:53 GMT
Dont get a cage unless you face tim regularly! Seriously Ive tried both. Cages just wind me up. Get a half visor and a decent gum sheild..... If rec hockeyt isnt about looking cool I dont know what is
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Post by Bennett on Apr 2, 2008 19:42:41 GMT
Nothing wrong with abit of advice while using common sense. Hockey's not all about looking cool ya know Of course it is, its about looking good and pulling chicks, thats the only reason I wear a half visor ha ha. 'my half visor bring all the chicks to the ice, and there like its better than yours, damn right its better than yours, you can buy one, but ill have to charge' Seriously, whilst i appreciate everyones advise and concern regarding on ice safety, isnt ice hockey supposed to be a contact sport anyway? Hundreds of games get played every weekend without people losing eyes so its not a huge problem.
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Post by ted on Apr 2, 2008 19:45:31 GMT
Of course it is, its about looking good and pulling chicks, thats the only reason I wear a half visor ha ha. 'my half visor bring all the chicks to the ice, and there like its better than yours, damn right its better than yours, you can buy one, but ill have to charge' Seriously, whilst i appreciate everyones advise and concern regarding on ice safety, isnt ice hockey supposed to be a contact sport anyway? Hundreds of games get played every weekend without people losing eyes so its not a huge problem. Exactly... you only hear about it when it goes wrong! Ive been playing 2 years and never once been slashed in the face or taken a puck to the face.
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Post by Monty #83 on Apr 2, 2008 19:52:18 GMT
and i have been playing for a few months and have had a puck to the face ;D
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Post by pantherfan on Apr 2, 2008 19:54:48 GMT
Ok, if you can borrow a cage for a few times on the ice and it doesn't bother you too much stick with it, if it does then fair doo's...
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Post by Rich on Apr 2, 2008 20:04:06 GMT
ha ha. 'my half visor bring all the chicks to the ice, and there like its better than yours, damn right its better than yours, you can buy one, but ill have to charge' Seriously, whilst i appreciate everyones advise and concern regarding on ice safety, isnt ice hockey supposed to be a contact sport anyway? Hundreds of games get played every weekend without people losing eyes so its not a huge problem. Exactly... you only hear about it when it goes wrong! Ive been playing 2 years and never once been slashed in the face or taken a puck to the face. Not accidentally anyway....
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Post by Louisa on Apr 2, 2008 23:00:31 GMT
Monty, I've no idea I'm afraid. I'm on my third replacement visor but I think they're phasing them out. I don't think they are much cheaper than getting the iron cage bit too (albeit still cheaper). I'm going to Canada to buy some stash, so I can have a look for you if you can't find it on the interweb. It may be that the don't do them anymore.
Meh, you know the risks when wearing a half visor, so its up to you. I'm allowed to wear a half visor, cos of my age, but never will.
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Post by kilner on Apr 2, 2008 23:12:26 GMT
I'm allowed to wear a half visor, cos of my age, but never will. wise choice
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Post by Louisa on Apr 2, 2008 23:17:52 GMT
I'm allowed to wear a half visor, cos of my age, but never will. wise choice Why thank you!!! ;D ;D
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Post by charlish2099 on Apr 3, 2008 8:54:39 GMT
Yes its personal preference, read the poster, hes said he wants visors and asked about visors and got a reply telling him to get a cage! I understand Buster, but you say youve trained once, maybe once youve used both for several years you might be able to make a more informed decision. It could still be a cage I understand that but as usual youve started a post with an agressive and daft statement. Has he?? no i dont think so, he has trained and watch thed the game and has a valid opinion and you for the sake of being pedantic jump down his throat. Not everyone has had the opportunity to play for many years so need to be so condasending. this thread is a balanced debate about visors and cages, whats the problem? so the poster may of been considering only a visor but now he has a lot of pro's and cons for both cage and visor and i feel the thread would be handy for anyone considering what to choose. I had a visor and went to a cage, i now play with more confidence and enjoy the game more, I have noticed minimal change to vision fields and can see the ice clear enough. My cage is white on inside and black on the out, the white on the inside helps your eyes against strain. I really like it. oh and i have been traning for a year so I hope im allowed to contribute.
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Post by Rich on Apr 3, 2008 9:27:42 GMT
Haha ok Nath, il allow you to post on this occasion pal.
If the guy had asked for a 3 page debate on cages fine, but as far as I can see hes had one single post helping to answer his question and that was mine at the beginning.
"Iv been told its illegal but I want a CE Visor, can I still get one", 2 simple questions, none of which involve people telling him to get a cage. Feel free to start a "visors vs cages" thread....
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Post by Rich on Apr 3, 2008 9:32:43 GMT
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Post by Bennett on Apr 3, 2008 10:04:05 GMT
Haha ok Nath, il allow you to post on this occasion pal. If the guy had asked for a 3 page debate on cages fine, but as far as I can see hes had one single post helping to answer his question and that was mine at the beginning. "Iv been told its illegal but I want a CE Visor, can I still get one", 2 simple questions, none of which involve people telling him to get a cage. Feel free to start a "visors vs cages" thread.... Exactly! I dont want people to think i dont appreciate their opinions, as after all they have only been posted to try and offer me advice for which i am grateful, however i cant stand cages at all and have used one briefly as a junior (prior to getting a full visor) so would not even consider wearing one now, even if i was paid to do so!! On the note of half visors, i quite like the pro wave rich but i thinking of going for the 22AV (Aviator), as i cant get hold of a Oakley 903 anywhere in the world!! Crazy.
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Post by Rich on Apr 3, 2008 10:41:14 GMT
Oakley stuff is strange, one minute they are on offer selling them off then they come back with new stuff. I think the AV one is on there too. If you play a lot consider purchasing a few because you will pay the same shipping.
If your not in a rush go to ebay.com NOT .co.uk and find a guy in the states selling visors. There may be some on there already. Most will ship to the UK and because its ebay they can mark them as a gift and you wont have to pay stupid amounts of tax
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Post by Bennett on Apr 3, 2008 11:31:16 GMT
Oakley stuff is strange, one minute they are on offer selling them off then they come back with new stuff. I think the AV one is on there too. If you play a lot consider purchasing a few because you will pay the same shipping. If your not in a rush go to ebay.com NOT .co.uk and find a guy in the states selling visors. There may be some on there already. Most will ship to the UK and because its ebay they can mark them as a gift and you wont have to pay stupid amounts of tax Yeah its really weird, most US stores have got the colored ones in but not the clear and the best offer ive had from a UK store is that he's getting some in stock in June! Good call on the shipping costs though, i didnt think of that so might bag a couple. Ive been browsing Ebay for a couple of weeks now and most are going for daft prices just because they are pro stock, not looking forward to paying import tax etc if i order from a store though - Any idea how much is it? Ordered a stick from the US last week so ill be paying a fair bit for that id imagine.
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Post by MP on Apr 3, 2008 11:33:46 GMT
A really interesting debate.
I've never played hockey but it seems there are some similarities with rock climbing.
I was the equivalent to a rec player when it came to climbing - little used easy routes on easy angled rock but loose rock was always a danger - a bit like the lack of ingrained stick discipline in rec hockey.
I didn't wear a helmet when I started climbing - plenty of people didn't. I'm glad I did start wearing one though as I've subsequently been hit by falling debris and I'd always wear a helmet when climbing now.
If I was playing hockey I think I'd choose to wear a cage. When your sport is just a recreation, I don't see the point in risking serious injury unnecessarily.
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Post by Rich on Apr 3, 2008 11:45:14 GMT
Youll pay VAT Bennett and I dunno what the rest is, it seems to vary everytime I buy something lol.
I understand that MP, but the key thing is this isnt a helmet. For years people have played with no face protection at all, a visor is a step up I choose to wear to protect my eyes because they are irreplacable. I take safety seriously, just dont like cages!
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Post by MP on Apr 3, 2008 11:57:25 GMT
I take your point Rich but a half visor doesn't protect against facial injuries, which would concern me - not on the account of good looks I hasten to add! ;D Mind you, I'm not very consistent. Rather late in life I've started riding horses and whilst I wear a helmet (of choice and frequently necessity) I've never considered wearing body protectors. By my own logic I should - hope I don't come to regret not doing so.
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Post by Rich on Apr 3, 2008 12:15:42 GMT
Why stop at that MP, I think you need to start wearing full hockey kit inc helmet and cage on the off chance another rider with a whip rides past and you get an stray whip to the face. It probably happened 52 years ago in a remote country somewhere... could even have been Ross Lambert A certified visor covers your nose and unless you are pro and have a long neck, your face for most of the game is pretty much covered. The worst that could happen is a mark on your jaw, a cut lip or a lost tooth but thats extreme. Again, its each to their own but id be more worried about getting a skate blade or a puck to an area of your body not protected by your kit
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