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Post by Bennett on Apr 2, 2008 10:18:34 GMT
Alright guys, i know loads of you on here play rec hockey and wondered what half visors you use? I initially wanted an Oakley 900 / 903 or an Itech HS22AV but ive been told that as they are non CE certified then they will be illegal when the new rule change comes in this year. Anyone know if this is true? Not a big fan of the certified ones!
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Post by Rich on Apr 2, 2008 10:28:09 GMT
The rule changes are already in place but dont worry, they havnt imposed them. I went out and bought a certified visor and put up with it thinking I had no choice but nobody ever said anything. They are horrible as they cover your nose and are hard to get used to.
Obviously though as a result some shops wont sell them because they cannot be seen to sell non certified kit. Its a strange one though because they will sell stick blades which are 'illegal' in that they would not pass an equipment test in a game.
My advice is order one from abroad or try a smaller shop, they may sell you one if you say you wont wear it for games. I actually have a spare HS22 pro wave if your really desperate but would rather not sell it really as they are the only visor I get on with
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Post by Bennett on Apr 2, 2008 10:45:23 GMT
Cheers for the advice buddy, the guys i play with have said the ref's dont ushally say anything so i think i will just go out and buy an illegal one. I know what you mean about the certified ones though! I could always buy one of those 30 quid RBE's just in case i need to change it pre game.
Now i just need to find a store that stocks the one i want as pretty much every shop in the uk only has certified ones! Looks like its hockey monkey and 60 USD shipping - joy!
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Post by heja on Apr 2, 2008 11:14:54 GMT
CE visors are stupid dont get one imo
party because they are so close to your face it is horrible, non CE visors tell you to wear them as far out as you can on the instructions but CE visors you have no choice really
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Post by kilner on Apr 2, 2008 11:18:29 GMT
Cheers for the advice buddy, the guys i play with have said the ref's dont ushally say anything so i think i will just go out and buy an illegal one. I know what you mean about the certified ones though! I could always buy one of those 30 quid RBE's just in case i need to change it pre game. Now i just need to find a store that stocks the one i want as pretty much every shop in the uk only has certified ones! Looks like its hockey monkey and 60 USD shipping - joy! Or just save yourself some money and get a cage...
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Post by Rich on Apr 2, 2008 11:22:03 GMT
Cages should be for u18s and women only. The only time cages should reference with hockey is the cage fighters in the LNAH
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Post by kilner on Apr 2, 2008 11:31:48 GMT
Cages should be for u18s and women only. why?
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Post by heja on Apr 2, 2008 11:41:31 GMT
cages can be very very dangerous
if two players one wearing a cage and the other not then it will rip there face to shreds
still dont know why people want to wear a cage unless your in goal lol
how many times do you get hit in the face? (MONTY YOUR NOT ALLOWED TO POST AS YOU GOT HURT WEARING A CAGE lol)
the only time i have been hit in the face is when i have been on the ice with women, as they are so use to playing people with cages they go stick waving
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Post by Bennett on Apr 2, 2008 11:52:18 GMT
Cheers for the advice buddy, the guys i play with have said the ref's dont ushally say anything so i think i will just go out and buy an illegal one. I know what you mean about the certified ones though! I could always buy one of those 30 quid RBE's just in case i need to change it pre game. Now i just need to find a store that stocks the one i want as pretty much every shop in the uk only has certified ones! Looks like its hockey monkey and 60 USD shipping - joy! Or just save yourself some money and get a cage... Why would any adult consider buying a cage? and why would they need to save with cages being dirt cheep for obvious reasons? Strange.
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Post by kilner on Apr 2, 2008 12:01:03 GMT
cages can be very very dangerous In nearly 12 years of playing ive never heard or seen this, i think you might be exaggerating abit... For the same reasons goalies were them....to protect their face Well ive been hit in the face with sticks, pucks, elbows and what not (all by male players) and not been injured - all because i wear a cage . Not exactly rocket science
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Post by kilner on Apr 2, 2008 12:06:20 GMT
Or just save yourself some money and get a cage... Why would any adult consider buying a cage? and why would they need to save with cages being dirt cheep for obvious reasons? Strange. Why would you want to buy something that would end up costing more, and yet still not offer the same protection. Especially as its only being used for rec hockey?
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Post by Cooke#19 on Apr 2, 2008 12:24:58 GMT
Cus if you wear a cage at rec hockey, by the sounds of things Heja will bully you!
I wear a cage, but I have to, but not sure if i'd really want to wear a visor as i'd be scared i'd get hit!! I've been hit in the cage before and if that wasn't there then there would have been a problem! Hmmm i'll decide about wearing a visor when i'm actually allowed to!
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Post by Bennett on Apr 2, 2008 12:25:16 GMT
Why would any adult consider buying a cage? and why would they need to save with cages being dirt cheep for obvious reasons? Strange. Why would you want to buy something that would end up costing more, and yet still not offer the same protection. Especially as its only being used for rec hockey? You can see better, they look better and i wouldent look like a pansy Thats just my opinion, although it would look strange a fully grown man wearing a cage imo.
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Post by Cooke#19 on Apr 2, 2008 13:11:45 GMT
I can see fine through mine
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Post by Bennett on Apr 2, 2008 13:28:45 GMT
I can see fine through mine Dont get me wrong cages are ok in terms of durability and last longer than visors, however there's no denying that visors have better clarity and vision, otherwise everyone would be wearing cages.
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Post by kilner on Apr 2, 2008 13:42:45 GMT
Why would you want to buy something that would end up costing more, and yet still not offer the same protection. Especially as its only being used for rec hockey? they look better and i wouldent look like a pansy Thats just my opinion, although it would look strange a fully grown man wearing a cage imo. So basically you want to look hard and fit in with everyone else?
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Post by pantherfan on Apr 2, 2008 14:03:26 GMT
TBH I'd reccomend a cage for rec hockey because at the end of the day most players have got to go to work in the morning and if you've got a gash on your face or a fat lip and a black eye it's not gonna do most people much good is it? Cages can get a while to get used to if you've never worn one before and I'll admit not having one helps a little with sight but if your playing for fun then why bother, unless of course you'd risk your eyes, teeth and good looks to a bunch of stick swinging rec players (no offence) then go ahead!
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Post by Cooke#19 on Apr 2, 2008 14:09:16 GMT
Well you know how big in fashion visors are in rec hockey, depends if you wanna look 'cooooool' or be protected more
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Post by Bennett on Apr 2, 2008 14:23:36 GMT
Well you know how big in fashion visors are in rec hockey, depends if you wanna look 'cooooool' or be protected more I know its all down to personal preference, i just think that if cages were so good then everyone would be wearing them. I would even choose a full visor above a cage personally. Each to their own!
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Post by Rich on Apr 2, 2008 14:24:06 GMT
Visors cover your eyes, wear them properley and you wont lose your sight!! Nothing to do with looking cool, Visors help your vision, feel and awareness when on the ice. Id rather give up playing at watch from the sides than have to look at everything through a cheesgrater thanks. Then again im 6ft5 so I dont catch as many stray sticks and elbows as some people. Womens hockey has lots of people who cant control their stick and like to hack and slash so you should definatly wear one Becky. Protection or feel, covered up or bareback...sometimes its nice to go for more feel
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Post by Rich on Apr 2, 2008 14:25:09 GMT
Well you know how big in fashion visors are in rec hockey, depends if you wanna look 'cooooool' or be protected more I know its all down to personal preference, i just think that if cages were so good then everyone would be wearing them. I would even choose a full visor above a cage personally. Each to their own! I know of about 10 people who have tried a visor after a cage and not gone back...Cant say iv ever heard of anyone giving up their visor for a cage!
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Post by kilner on Apr 2, 2008 14:34:18 GMT
I know its all down to personal preference, i just think that if cages were so good then everyone would be wearing them. I would even choose a full visor above a cage personally. Each to their own! I know of about 10 people who have tried a visor after a cage and not gone back...Cant say iv ever heard of anyone giving up their visor for a cage! I know of one poster (maybe ex poster these days) on here that has.
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Post by Monty #83 on Apr 2, 2008 16:11:34 GMT
i have after taking puck to the visor and having it smash in your face, sod all this nonsense about looking cool, just wear whatever you feel safe in! Last week malkin got hit in the face and needed 10 stitchs.
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Post by buster on Apr 2, 2008 16:33:06 GMT
some of the arguements on here are dumb. while i agree with some sentiments on here, surely it is down to the preference of the player. sure, they dont look as 'cool' as a visor but i'd rather have my boyish good looks than a grill full of broken teeth and a bent nose.
i've trained once, and i wouldnt have done it without a full cage, no doubt about it. i think visors should only be worn after you reach a certain age or level of competence (with regards to having developed reaction times) on the ice.
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Post by Louisa on Apr 2, 2008 16:37:50 GMT
Half visors are dangerous if you get a players stick wedged up there... the player then wiggles their stick trying to get free and takes your eye out. Didn't this happen to Ross Lambert when he was at Sheffield?
Full visor everytime - I have the half visor and half cage, a bit like Monty's - I hated the full cage. I don't mind getting a new one every 5 years as they do get scratched. I protect mine in a sewn-up small hand towel (to create a bag effect) when in my kit bag.
Pantherfan - totally agree with you. I've got slashed and had pucks in the face so many times. We do have to work, so there's no point in taking unneccessary risks.
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