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Post by sunbeam on Sept 10, 2007 13:35:43 GMT
The vast majority of drink is sold in metric measurememnts. I'd bet 99% of it is sold in metric. Well, as every single pint and half sold in pubs is an imperial measurement, I'd say you're very wrong. Breweries worldwide still measure production in 'barrels', a measure of 36 gallons or 288 pints. Wine also has it's production measured in barrels. Metric wasn't 'invented' by a Brit. The first daily use of 'tenths' was by a Dutch mathemetician some 100 years previous, and it was Revolutionary Frrance that saw the first official adoption of a metric system. Also, Imperial is very much a Brit thing. The Imperial System passed into British Law in 1824. Previously we had used the Avoirdupois system but anti French feeling at the time led to small changes and Legislation regarding the term 'Imperial'.
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Post by Peacock on Sept 10, 2007 16:15:31 GMT
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Post by sunbeam on Sept 10, 2007 17:21:55 GMT
And Wiki goes on to say: It's probably easier to simply say that they are neither British or foreign. It certainly should not matter who invented it. Personally I would have pubs sell beer in 1/4, 1/2 and 1 litre glasses. Why? Well partly because bottled and canned beer are sold in mls. But mainly so that pubs could sell steins of beer meaning less trips needed to the bar! Little off topic methinks.
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Post by Peacock on Sept 10, 2007 18:28:42 GMT
Beer can legally be sold in multiples of 1/3 or 1/2 a pint so there's no reason why pubs couldn't sell 2 pint glasses...just look at Hallam FM arena.
The main reason we don't is 'cos it's warm by the end of a pint. By the end of 2 pints (unless you're a beer swallowing beast), it'd be disgusting.
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Post by MP on Sept 10, 2007 22:48:50 GMT
The main reason we don't is 'cos it's warm by the end of a pint. By the end of 2 pints (unless you're a beer swallowing beast), it'd be disgusting. But I like warm beer! Don't mind it being flat either. Well, if it's decent beer that is - the flavour develops when the chill goes out of it. If it's lager.... well it's only fit for the drain when the life's chilled out of it - doesn't bear thinking about drunk warm!
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Post by Peacock on Sept 10, 2007 23:17:59 GMT
Yeah, but even Bitters and most Ales aren't meant to be served above 12-14 degrees. By warm I mean room temperature and above.
The only thing that should be room temp is Trappist type ales and Barley wines.
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Post by sunbeam on Sept 10, 2007 23:21:21 GMT
Beer can legally be sold in multiples of 1/3 or 1/2 a pint so there's no reason why pubs couldn't sell 2 pint glasses...just look at Hallam FM arena. The main reason we don't is 'cos it's warm by the end of a pint. By the end of 2 pints (unless you're a beer swallowing beast), it'd be disgusting. I've drunk steins before and they never got warm. Did it in 35C temps in Spain and it was fine. The glasses come out the fridge and beer is ice cold. And as MP says, some beer is supposed to be warm. Stein of Guinness....?
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Post by MP on Sept 10, 2007 23:44:29 GMT
And as MP says, some beer is supposed to be warm. I was musing on that at the NIC on Wednesday night when they did the beer promotion. "Ice cold" Greene King IPA.......... I thought the whole point of Indian Pale Ale was that it was robust enough to survive the long sea journey to the sub-continent and was drinkable in the hot climate there. So why would you want to chill the life out of it? Errrrrr...... no thanks - I wouldn't give you thanks for a pint of the stuff let alone a stein. ;D
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Post by Doughnut on Sept 11, 2007 8:23:50 GMT
The only thing that should be room temp is Trappist type ales and Barley wines. What about whisky? What's red wine meant to be served at? Thought that was room temp.
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Post by Peacock on Sept 11, 2007 9:50:19 GMT
The only thing that should be room temp is Trappist type ales and Barley wines. What about whisky? What's red wine meant to be served at? Thought that was room temp. I'm only talking about lagers, ales and other beers. 'Room temperature' is very misleading. Red wine should be served between 10 and 16 degrees. Generally the more robust the wine, the warmer you serve it. Sunbeam, this is quite interesting.. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6988521.stm
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Post by sunbeam on Sept 11, 2007 12:57:35 GMT
Excellent spin from the EU. Nothing has actually really changed. Pints and miles were already exempt from 31/12/2009 change and butchers/grocers etc will still have to price in metric. The EU is fed up of being linked to the metric conversion when in fact Britain decided to go metric before even joining the EEC. Metric is no more European than Imperial is British. But the Daily Mail and co have made people think otherwise. None of it matters much. Supermarkets are killing off grocers and butchers and even pubs and 99% of stuff sold is sold in metric. If the 'metric martyrs. had had their way we'd still have 240 p in the £.
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Post by Doughnut on Sept 11, 2007 13:06:35 GMT
You can wax lyrical all you like, beer still tastes better out of a pint glass.
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Post by Peacock on Sept 11, 2007 13:16:54 GMT
You can wax lyrical all you like, beer still tastes better out of a pint glass. That may be so, but if the Police and Local Authorites get tehir way, you may end up drinking out of a pint sized toughened plastic container or a plastic bottle when you go to the pub or a venue like the NIC. Sunbeam, you're right about Supermarkets killing off pubs though...one of the many reasons we called it a day and sold up.
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Post by sunbeam on Sept 11, 2007 16:31:52 GMT
You can wax lyrical all you like, beer still tastes better out of a pint glass. That may be so, but if the Police and Local Authorites get tehir way, you may end up drinking out of a pint sized toughened plastic container or a plastic bottle when you go to the pub or a venue like the NIC. Sunbeam, you're right about Supermarkets killing off pubs though...one of the many reasons we called it a day and sold up. Not just pubs. Pretty much the whole high street is being killed off. Which is whyu today's news is largely meaningless making it such a smart move by the EU. Dnut - I prefer my lager out of a bottle. Always seems less gassy and I just prefer drinking out of a bottle. But not a can. Odd. Plastic glasses in the NIC never bothered me. Surely the green lobby would oppose plastic glasses??
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Post by Peacock on Sept 11, 2007 16:55:33 GMT
It wouldn't be the squashy kind Sunbeam. The ones the Police have started funding are the washable, reusable Polycarbonate kind. I'm led to believe that these use less energy to produce and are easier to recycle than glass.
Newport could be the first place to go 'plastic'. The Police there are funding part of the cost of the initial switch.
Wholesalers already supply plastic (PET) bottles of certain beers and RTD's, but the cost to the pub/club is about a third more expensive. We use them for our outdoor events Company, but only because we have to for Licensing reasons.
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Post by Doughnut on Sept 11, 2007 20:24:38 GMT
Dnut - I prefer my lager out of a bottle. Always seems less gassy and I just prefer drinking out of a bottle. But not a can. Odd. I prefer lager to remain in the pump. I'd rather drink real beer. From a pint glass
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Post by sunbeam on Sept 12, 2007 12:12:59 GMT
Dnut - I prefer my lager out of a bottle. Always seems less gassy and I just prefer drinking out of a bottle. But not a can. Odd. I prefer lager to remain in the pump. I'd rather drink real beer. From a pint glass I can drink the odd pint of bitter. Would rather not. I prefer my beer cold, clean and crisp. Whatever happened to Caffreys?
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Post by Peacock on Sept 12, 2007 12:48:36 GMT
Whatever happened to Caffreys? It was a nasty nitro keg beer and as such didn't deserve the space the tap took up on the bar.
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Post by MP on Sept 12, 2007 15:40:22 GMT
It was a nasty nitro keg beer and as such didn't deserve the space the tap took up on the bar. Well said that man! Equally horrible in a can too. Just a crying shame S&N choose to sacrifice Websters for their nation wide promotion of John Smiths - the wrong way round for me.
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Post by sunbeam on Sept 12, 2007 17:21:23 GMT
I liked it. A decent, creamy Belfast bitter that went down quite nice.
Is it still sold in pubs? Or at all here?
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Post by ted on Sept 12, 2007 23:02:44 GMT
Back to plastic pint pots... if the police are funding these pots to stop glassings i imagine... If there are so many they have to replace all the pint pots theres a deeper problem if you ask me
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Post by Peacock on Sept 12, 2007 23:22:33 GMT
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Post by sunbeam on Sept 13, 2007 10:12:50 GMT
Makes sense when you read that. It's not like anybody is losing anything much in drinking out of plastiic.
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Post by Rich on Sept 13, 2007 11:45:50 GMT
Back on topic, I can see why this is still in the rumours thread, its complete tosh!
Pizza and dips are the same (Fine) but since changing the lager and the bitter in T&Ds iv only heard of people complaining.
The IPA bitter is a disgrace, iv always drunk bitter at the arena because Its just easier to drink lots of during a game, now im not going to bother, worst drink iv ever tasted!
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Post by Mark on Sept 13, 2007 12:51:51 GMT
Makes sense when you read that. It's not like anybody is losing anything much in drinking out of plastiic. So not true, my old man won't drink beer from any establishment if they serve it in plastic cups, he walks away in disgust. I'm not quite so picky but much prefer a glass. Back on topic, I much prefer the IPA to the Worthingtons, a beer with a synthetic taste much like John Smith's Smooth, Caffreys and the disgusting Boddingtons. The prices however are much too high, the service is extremely slow and in places clueless.
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