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Post by gazzathedevil on Jun 16, 2007 16:02:39 GMT
Richardson switched to center last season and was simply Brilliant for the Devils in that role. ten times more effective for us than when he was on the wing. whats his face off winning skills like Gazza? Improved as the year went on and towards the end of the season was being put into the mroe cruical face off situations, better face off man than Smith was. Richardson did a great job on Tony hand last season and Hand had probably the quietest game i have seen for some time. i cant express how gutted i am Richie wont be lining up for us thsi season a great great shame.
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Post by John88 on Jun 16, 2007 16:12:00 GMT
I think that would be a decent line, some of the best lines last year didnt have much size, the mark smith line for instance didnt have much physical presence. i dont know abotu that, Birbrear can throw a mean check and is so strong in the corners in fact he was possibly the best board player in the league last season. Then of course we had Sample who isnt the biggest but will put his bopdy on the line every shift. Throwing checks and digging in the corners. Smithy wouldnt back down from throwing checks either. Coventry's first line was less physical which ultimatley is why we had a better record against them imo. I'd disagree. I don't think you need size and Coventry showed that. Cardiff might have edged them but their 6 main forwards were all small and quick and they were the best team last season. I'd be more than happy with lots of little guys who hussle and pressurise the puck. It is generally guys like Tessier and Carlson who stand-out at the end of the season.
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Post by gazzathedevil on Jun 16, 2007 16:47:49 GMT
[qu I'd disagree. I don't think you need size and Coventry showed that. Cardiff might have edged them but their 6 main forwards were all small and quick and they were the best team last season. I'd be more than happy with lots of little guys who hussle and pressurise the puck. It is generally guys like Tessier and Carlson who stand-out at the end of the season. No where in my quote did i mention Size, i mentioned Physicality which i still believe coventry didnt have enough of. I agree with you i like lpayers like Gera Adams and Ryan Finnerty who will battle all day long. I juist though Coventry were one of the weakest in that area.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2007 16:49:54 GMT
You re missing off one of the great battlers from the previous season.... Brandin Cote
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Post by John88 on Jun 16, 2007 17:00:21 GMT
If Coventry lacked it and were one of the weakest in that area, how come they won the league at ease and the challenge cup ? Obviously they had enough of everything you need or else we'd have more trophies in our cabinet.
My advice for Ellis would be to look at how Coventry play and copy it. They might not have been so hot against Cardiff but the stats don't lie. They won the league and the rest of us didn't. 2 times out of 3 ain't luck.
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Post by Carnell on Jun 16, 2007 17:53:01 GMT
Would be pleased with this signing, lets hope its true
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Jun 16, 2007 18:01:27 GMT
Pidge, id totally forgot about Shmyr tbh, i would imagine he'd be on the third line if we get two decent second liners theres no other place he could really go, short of him playing as a 5th d-man which i suppose is quite possible.
as far as Cooke goes im just assuming he re-signs, short of that someone of Cooke's ability, were bound to sign at least one more Brit
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2007 18:02:39 GMT
Hopefully will get a decentish brit as a 10th forward
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Post by Shaggy on Jun 16, 2007 18:03:07 GMT
McAslan, Centre, Molin (who also played centre last year) Welch, Richardson, Drouin As the saying goes... I'd buy that for a dollar! ;D We are seriously going to need a VERY good first-line centre, whatever happens. Whoever is on the wings there - Molin, Drouin, MacAslan, etc - there's some serious scoring talent... and that's going to need feeding. If we can get a superior centre - both on face-off winning and playmaking - then we have every chance of kicking ass and taking names right to the silverware cabinet.
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Post by cc77 on Jun 16, 2007 18:33:33 GMT
I heard this rumour about Welch about 10 days ago, and didn`t really believe it. Then it was pointed out to me that he played with Drouin last season and that it was Drouin that recommended him to Ellis
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Post by EMB on Jun 16, 2007 18:37:54 GMT
(If you go to theMcaslan thread and now click the link on the first post, and look at the transferts it has both PC drouin and Welch down as leaving Morzine for Panthers, as someone as said it being in bold apparently means it's confirmed. If so I think we have the other 2nd line winger with Moline )
I just hope we're not reading too much into this, looking at the departures you could read it as Welch, Drouin (Nottingham Panthers) but underneath they also state in the same format that Halttunen, Courally,Bergin,Lyle (Basingstoke Bison) and we all know that Basingstoke have only signed Lyle. Yes these are all the players that are leaving but I believe they have only posted next to the name of the players that have actually got clubs to go to, Although saying that on the actual Morzine website they do state that Welch is leaving- confirmed but the club is unknown. But saying all that PC Drouin did say to someone at the last game of the season against Rouen , in Rouen that both he and Dan were looking for a move back to the UK so keep your fingers crossed.
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Post by barnsleyfan on Jun 16, 2007 21:46:31 GMT
As the saying goes... I'd buy that for a dollar! ;D We are seriously going to need a VERY good first-line centre, whatever happens. Whoever is on the wings there - Molin, Drouin, MacAslan, etc - there's some serious scoring talent... and that's going to need feeding. If we can get a superior centre - both on face-off winning and playmaking - then we have every chance of kicking ass and taking names right to the silverware cabinet. Also, one more thing. Drouin is the only natural left winger of the lot. Molin, Welch and McAslan are all known as right wingers. So maybe Molin will centre the first line, as he did in Manchester last season, due to Hand's greediness of wanting the wing spot! Then have another left winger come onto that line? Just a thought...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2007 0:39:03 GMT
As the saying goes... I'd buy that for a dollar! ;D We are seriously going to need a VERY good first-line centre, whatever happens. Whoever is on the wings there - Molin, Drouin, MacAslan, etc - there's some serious scoring talent... and that's going to need feeding. If we can get a superior centre - both on face-off winning and playmaking - then we have every chance of kicking ass and taking names right to the silverware cabinet. Also, one more thing. Drouin is the only natural left winger of the lot. Molin, Welch and McAslan are all known as right wingers. So maybe Molin will centre the first line, as he did in Manchester last season, due to Hand's greediness of wanting the wing spot! Then have another left winger come onto that line? Just a thought... Hell, if Molin can score 83 points out of position what could he do playing in position? Better than anything Sheffield has got that's for sure
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Post by 123 on Jun 17, 2007 9:52:38 GMT
Welch played left wing for Coventry and did ok, with Cheverie at centre and Calder on the right wing. I think he'd do a pretty good job, but would be a bit concerned about the lack of any real size in the forwards. Shmyr and Drouin are the only 'big' forwards so far, but Drouin's about as physical as Kalmikov. That could change a bit, final signings dependant.
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Jun 17, 2007 9:56:47 GMT
im expecting one of our last three to be a power foreward
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Post by thfnick on Jun 17, 2007 17:43:59 GMT
If we can get a superior centre - both on face-off winning and playmaking - then we have every chance of kicking ass and taking names right to the silverware cabinet. Don't Panthers fans say the same every year?
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Post by dirtyden on Jun 17, 2007 19:17:39 GMT
Yes we do, we seem to think that if we need a good centre anyone will do.
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Post by dans on Jun 17, 2007 19:38:31 GMT
Yes we do, we seem to think that if we need a good centre anyone will do. Ha Ha very true, any clues to your final signing?
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Post by Heanor Lair on Jun 17, 2007 19:46:29 GMT
interesting daddio, as the ones in BOLD are confirmed and the mcaslan one to Amiens is in normal type so unconfirmed, i guess we ll have to watch this space in the next few days. id be happy with a 2nd line of Welch Richardson Molin If that's the case, the Club ought to be announcing the signings before they hit the data base for transfers. Why do they wait so long, the longer they wait, the more likely someone will post that they have signed from another source. Remember Hills transfer from Shuff to Cardiff was announced a good 10 days on EuroHockey before Cardiff announced it. All clubs need to be on the ball with this one. British clubs seem to have a 'knowledge is power' mentality, the web doesnt respect such a thing. Welcome back Dan
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Post by gazzathedevil on Jun 17, 2007 20:01:48 GMT
Remember Hills transfer from Shuff to Cardiff was announced a good 10 days on EuroHockey before Cardiff announced it. All clubs need to be on the ball with this one. British clubs seem to have a 'knowledge is power' mentality, the web doesnt respect such a thing. Welcome back Dan The reason it was announced on eurohockey was because Brent Pope released the most confusing press release in the world which basically had the message of 'we havent signed phil hiil yet but we can as long as people stop criticising him on forums' But it was weirdly written and many people thoguht Hil had signed and as such Euro hockey (that lets remember is only run by volounteers sometimes by just meer fans i believe Steelersmith on Steeltalk was an editor for it at one point) so really its just a one stop shop for all transfers. I would seriously wait if i was a panthers fan to wait for an official press release for Welch before getting excited.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2007 9:10:32 GMT
Relax Gazza we are merely saying it looks a bit suspect on that website that whoever controls it must know something of where D Welch is heading, how many transfer over hear have been confirmed on their website after its been announced the other end first?
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Post by tunster on Jun 18, 2007 9:41:59 GMT
May be welch is a replacement for mcalsan? ??
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Post by thfnick on Jun 18, 2007 9:49:24 GMT
May be welch is a replacement for mcalsan? ?? Both are right wingers, IIRC. If Welch came back to Blaze I'd not be overly happy. Loads of points on the PP, very little production when playing EH hockey and terrible "heads down" distribution.
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Post by MP on Jun 18, 2007 10:02:36 GMT
Was thinking the same about Shmyr. I thought he would have been on your 3rd line. I suspect Ryan will be used very much as a utility player given his versatility and may not have a "regular" line. At times he'll no doubt be bolstering the defence. He's shown he's a capable defensive forward on the PK and useful in the screening role on the PP. So it's quite likely he'll be inserted into any line that will benefit from his particular strengths given the state of a game. Dan Welch? I remember being impressed by his skill and intuitive passing with Brad Patterson in the Peterborough game, then being disappointed that his promise never really developed whilst he played for us. He has talent though - perhaps Ellis and Drouin could get the best from him if he does end up in Nottingham.
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Post by gazzathedevil on Jun 18, 2007 10:29:23 GMT
Relax Gazza we are merely saying it looks a bit suspect on that website that whoever controls it must know something of where D Welch is heading, how many transfer over hear have been confirmed on their website after its been announced the other end first? And what im saying Pidge is that to me all its saying on that website is that he isnt going back to his team from last season. Nothing more nothing less. I'm quite open to the fact Welch could very well end up a Panthers player, but i also believe that is far from certain as the original posters on this thread suggested, and i eblieve it was just a simple misunderstanding on their part.
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