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Post by pantherschampions on May 6, 2007 19:46:22 GMT
scott alison and dion darling
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Post by oldman on May 12, 2007 15:19:03 GMT
i thought dion was alright till he got injured, ceman must be strong contender, and nutter of the lot marek ivan
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Post by NickThePanther44 on May 12, 2007 19:14:24 GMT
Ivan was hardly a bad player, moody but not bad
P.Moran is the worst ive seen, stick handling- poor, slap shot- non existent, wrist shot- cant remember him doing one, passing- poor, speed- poor for such a small fella
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Post by pantherman66 on May 19, 2007 20:39:33 GMT
The mention of Dave Randall brings back memories. I can remember me and my mate turning to each other during a game, and saying, 'how on earth can there be a better net-minder anywhere', this just after he had dived/fallen to the ice to make an awesome/below average save. I would like to add that this was some 27 years ago, and also he was the first netminder? we had seen. ;D
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Post by Lyn on Aug 12, 2007 16:11:41 GMT
Sorry - Daniel Scott
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Post by 1panther on Aug 13, 2007 16:17:52 GMT
Gotta agree Daniel Scott, though I think its unfair to nominate the Brits there should be 2 parts to this question, Worst Import and Worst Brit. Talking of Scott though I remember him having a go at a certain hardman from Belfast and Bryane Thompson I believe it was stood there laughing as Scott was on the floor and another Panther came to his rescue. Bex - Happy Days!!
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Post by john on Jan 1, 2008 21:07:16 GMT
i thought dion was alright till he got injured, ceman must be strong contender, and nutter of the lot marek ivan Dion wasnt Too good but not the worst, Ceman however could be the the worst import. IMHO i thought ivan was quite good not the best but his coast to coasts was awesome
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Post by Rich on Jan 3, 2008 9:30:09 GMT
Ian Morgan definatly deserves a mention I agree! Talk about getting on the team because your brother is a first liner.
Ceman wasnt bad, he was just replacing one of the best, probably THE best centre in the league. Ivan, the worst player ever? Not from where I sit. Same with Dion, wasnt spectacular but certainly more solid and reliable than Steve Pelletier.
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Paul Blayj Marcus Adolfssen Ian Morgan
Then you can class the "not quite brits" Danny Scott Phil Butler Robert Worthington
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Post by jmc on Jan 4, 2008 16:52:43 GMT
thing is Rich Darling and Pelletier are different types of D men. It's like comparing Lidstrom to Pronger you can't.
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Post by Paul on Jan 4, 2008 17:46:23 GMT
I know he wasn't a Panthers player but I have to say I wasn't impressed when I saw Gretzky play over here. No speed, no finesse.
It wasn't Wayne, it was his brother Keith & he played for Ayr at the time. Now there was someone living on his brother's name.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2008 8:38:14 GMT
thing is Rich Darling and Pelletier are different types of D men. It's like comparing Lidstrom to Pronger you can't. Errr Lidstrom and Pronger and simular d men, both offensive and play the game the same way, Pronger prbably being slightly more physical Bad example lol Darling was a rugged d man as Pelletier is more flashy
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Post by dodit on Jan 5, 2008 18:18:43 GMT
pelts is also doing something darling didn't.
Defend
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Post by BIG-BAD-TONE on Jan 6, 2008 10:07:41 GMT
Ian Morgan definatly deserves a mention I agree! Talk about getting on the team because your brother is a first liner. Ceman wasnt bad, he was just replacing one of the best, probably THE best centre in the league. Ivan, the worst player ever? Not from where I sit. Same with Dion, wasnt spectacular but certainly more solid and reliable than Steve Pelletier. Id say Paul Blayj Marcus Adolfssen Ian Morgan Then you can class the "not quite brits" Danny Scott Phil Butler Robert Worthington Though i agree with your selection they are all young kids learning the game and i can think of a few more who came over as so called superstar imports that never cut the mustard
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Post by dodit on Jan 6, 2008 20:11:35 GMT
Ian Morgan definatly deserves a mention I agree! Talk about getting on the team because your brother is a first liner. Ceman wasnt bad, he was just replacing one of the best, probably THE best centre in the league. Ivan, the worst player ever? Not from where I sit. Same with Dion, wasnt spectacular but certainly more solid and reliable than Steve Pelletier. Id say Paul Blayj Marcus Adolfssen Ian Morgan Then you can class the "not quite brits" Danny Scott Phil Butler Robert Worthington Though i agree with your selection they are all young kids learning the game and i can think of a few more who came over as so called superstar imports that never cut the mustard Jeff Legue?
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Post by Rich on Jan 6, 2008 23:21:59 GMT
thing is Rich Darling and Pelletier are different types of D men. It's like comparing Lidstrom to Pronger you can't. You can compare them, they are both D men. They are different styles I agree but I was rating them as overall D men
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Post by Rich on Jan 6, 2008 23:23:53 GMT
Ian Morgan definatly deserves a mention I agree! Talk about getting on the team because your brother is a first liner. Ceman wasnt bad, he was just replacing one of the best, probably THE best centre in the league. Ivan, the worst player ever? Not from where I sit. Same with Dion, wasnt spectacular but certainly more solid and reliable than Steve Pelletier. Id say Paul Blayj Marcus Adolfssen Ian Morgan Then you can class the "not quite brits" Danny Scott Phil Butler Robert Worthington Though i agree with your selection they are all young kids learning the game and i can think of a few more who came over as so called superstar imports that never cut the mustard True that the bottom 3 are but I dont think Ian Morgan or Marcus Adolfssen were that young were they? Then again my memory isnt what it was lol
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Post by Rich on Jan 6, 2008 23:25:05 GMT
pelts is also doing something darling didn't. Defend Lmao, I trust you got the names the wrong way round and arnt saying a steady (albeit slow) D man doesnt defend, whereas an all action wannabe winger does?
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Post by jmc on Jan 8, 2008 19:35:58 GMT
pelts is also doing something darling didn't. Defend Lmao, I trust you got the names the wrong way round and arnt saying a steady (albeit slow) D man doesnt defend, whereas an all action wannabe winger does? Face it Rich you've not really like Pelletier since day one. All you do is rub his name through the dirt. I bet if Pelts had a steady stay at home D man as his D partner, it would be a different story.
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Post by Rich on Jan 9, 2008 18:29:13 GMT
Lmao, I trust you got the names the wrong way round and arnt saying a steady (albeit slow) D man doesnt defend, whereas an all action wannabe winger does? Face it Rich you've not really like Pelletier since day one. All you do is rub his name through the dirt. I bet if Pelts had a steady stay at home D man as his D partner, it would be a different story. Yep, I face that, whats your point? Its not "rubbing his name through the dirt" its just how I see his game, an opinion I have backed up with fact. By saying he needs a good certain type of D man with him surely your admitting hes still left wanting as a Defenceman?
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Post by jmc on Jan 9, 2008 21:02:15 GMT
Face it Rich you've not really like Pelletier since day one. All you do is rub his name through the dirt. I bet if Pelts had a steady stay at home D man as his D partner, it would be a different story. Yep, I face that, whats your point? Its not "rubbing his name through the dirt" its just how I see his game, an opinion I have backed up with fact. By saying he needs a good certain type of D man with him surely your admitting hes still left wanting as a Defenceman? Although its not fact Rich it your opinon. Pelts is a an offensive minded D man, how ever I think if Pelts was partnered with a Ree's type of D man it maybe a different story. In one I think just a 'quiet' D man would help Pelts, Like How Taubert helped the Panthers not many points but looked after his own end first, which let Carlsson and Thompson rack up respectable offensive D man points. IMO his got the D partner to compliment his own game.
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Post by Rich on Jan 9, 2008 21:52:37 GMT
Yep, I face that, whats your point? Its not "rubbing his name through the dirt" its just how I see his game, an opinion I have backed up with fact. By saying he needs a good certain type of D man with him surely your admitting hes still left wanting as a Defenceman? Although its not fact Rich it your opinon. Pelts is a an offensive minded D man, how ever I think if Pelts was partnered with a Ree's type of D man it maybe a different story. In one I think just a 'quiet' D man would help Pelts, Like How Taubert helped the Panthers not many points but looked after his own end first, which let Carlsson and Thompson rack up respectable offensive D man points. IMO his got the D partner to compliment his own game. I agree it would HELP his game for sure. But you have to play with who you are put with and you need to adapt. Hes certainly getting better tho il grant him that. The fact was I did a small (but very sad!!) study of Pelts and Stancoks game for a couple of shifts in a recent home game and judged what I would consider to be mistakes. Stancok did 2or3 and Pelletier did 9 iirc (I wrote it on the game thread that week). That is hard fact. Sure, Pelletier then went on to make a good play which everyone probably remembers but with a perfect view of the game and an unbiased check of 2 random shifts I wasnt surprised with what I found.
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Post by jmc on Jan 10, 2008 18:57:26 GMT
Although its not fact Rich it your opinon. Pelts is a an offensive minded D man, how ever I think if Pelts was partnered with a Ree's type of D man it maybe a different story. In one I think just a 'quiet' D man would help Pelts, Like How Taubert helped the Panthers not many points but looked after his own end first, which let Carlsson and Thompson rack up respectable offensive D man points. IMO his got the D partner to compliment his own game. I agree it would HELP his game for sure. But you have to play with who you are put with and you need to adapt. Hes certainly getting better tho il grant him that. The fact was I did a small (but very sad!!) study of Pelts and Stancoks game for a couple of shifts in a recent home game and judged what I would consider to be mistakes. Stancok did 2or3 and Pelletier did 9 iirc (I wrote it on the game thread that week). That is hard fact. Sure, Pelletier then went on to make a good play which everyone probably remembers but with a perfect view of the game and an unbiased check of 2 random shifts I wasnt surprised with what I found. How can you judge a player on one game? Surley to get a fair average is to judge afrter say five or six game? then divide the mistakes by the number games to get a clear average
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Post by Rich on Jan 10, 2008 20:19:51 GMT
I agree it would HELP his game for sure. But you have to play with who you are put with and you need to adapt. Hes certainly getting better tho il grant him that. The fact was I did a small (but very sad!!) study of Pelts and Stancoks game for a couple of shifts in a recent home game and judged what I would consider to be mistakes. Stancok did 2or3 and Pelletier did 9 iirc (I wrote it on the game thread that week). That is hard fact. Sure, Pelletier then went on to make a good play which everyone probably remembers but with a perfect view of the game and an unbiased check of 2 random shifts I wasnt surprised with what I found. How can you judge a player on one game? Surley to get a fair average is to judge afrter say five or six game? then divide the mistakes by the number games to get a clear average I would agree if it wasnt for the fact it is entiirely symbolic of the point I was trying to prove. You can do that in any shift of any game
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Post by breakspear on Jan 15, 2008 14:51:34 GMT
Just ran thro this thread and I am surprised no one has mentioned Dave Ducharme, what a player he was...........not.
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Post by dodit on Jan 15, 2008 17:16:16 GMT
But how often doesn't pelletier take silly penalites compared to stancok? How many times has pelletier put his body on the line compared to stancok? Find the answers to them and you find the better defender in my eyes.
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