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Post by darrellpanther on Aug 16, 2006 18:50:45 GMT
hey, its about the 90 Second shift and stop thing lol
the 90 second thing is not a problem but stoping the game dead will be so unfair to the people watching, there is a one on one and you cant shoot on goal because the buzzer has gone lol cant imagine it, as long as there is a coach on the bench saying line change and then just dump the puck and carry on then there wont be a ice hogging problem lol, i just think that people have paid money to watch, majority paid towards someone i sponsorship and then will dip in again at the game and dont think its fair for them to watch a game like the ice cubs lol (no offence intended to the little ones your quality lol
it just not be fair on people watching i dont feel for all the money they will pay, after all they are putting in money also
Cant wait to the game !!!!!!!!!!! Come on nottingham HEEEEE HEEEEEEE
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Post by dodyfan13 on Aug 16, 2006 19:01:51 GMT
hey, its about the 90 Second shift and stop thing lol the 90 second thing is not a problem but stoping the game dead will be so unfair to the people watching, there is a one on one and you cant shoot on goal because the buzzer has gone lol cant imagine it, as long as there is a coach on the bench saying line change and then just dump the puck and carry on then there wont be a ice hogging problem lol, i just think that people have paid money to watch, majority paid towards someone i sponsorship and then will dip in again at the game and dont think its fair for them to watch a game like the ice cubs lol (no offence intended to the little ones your quality lol it just not be fair on people watching i dont feel for all the money they will pay, after all they are putting in money also Cant wait to the game !!!!!!!!!!! Come on nottingham HEEEEE HEEEEEEE agree mate
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Post by Rich on Aug 17, 2006 7:45:19 GMT
hey, its about the 90 Second shift and stop thing lol the 90 second thing is not a problem but stoping the game dead will be so unfair to the people watching, there is a one on one and you cant shoot on goal because the buzzer has gone lol cant imagine it, as long as there is a coach on the bench saying line change and then just dump the puck and carry on then there wont be a ice hogging problem lol, i just think that people have paid money to watch, majority paid towards someone i sponsorship and then will dip in again at the game and dont think its fair for them to watch a game like the ice cubs lol (no offence intended to the little ones your quality lol it just not be fair on people watching i dont feel for all the money they will pay, after all they are putting in money also Cant wait to the game !!!!!!!!!!! Come on nottingham HEEEEE HEEEEEEE agree mate Me too, I understand why youd want the buzzer but for the fans its going to be tedious to watch, if both teams are changing at the same time anyway It shudnt matter
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Post by lockerbie on Aug 17, 2006 9:14:36 GMT
I agree with that too, you've got to keep the game flowing, were bringing quite a few newies to hockey down on Sunday and Id like to think some of them will be transformed, but I agree that the game should not be stopped. My only critism of the whole thing from watching all the training sesssions is that it was alittle boring on Saturday with the constant stopping of the game. Only my opinion, hope it helps.
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Post by ted on Aug 17, 2006 12:06:54 GMT
What about same rules for a delayed penalty?
Buzzer goes.... team on the puck get their last play. as soon as they lose control of the puck then its line change and face off in the nearest circle
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Post by Rink Rush on Aug 17, 2006 14:06:05 GMT
I agree that spectators will have paid to watch the game & will have the opportunity to buy programmes, 50/50 or raffle tickets & as such we have something of a duty to provide them with as entertaining a game as possible but I also feel we have to provide with as fair a game as possible.
By fair I mean fair to each & every player on the ice irrespective of their team, ability or sex. This game will feature players of wildly different abilities (sometimes on the same lines) & whilst some may feel that the buzzer every 90 seconds is restrictive others may be glad of the fact that they don't have to change on the fly & then struggle to get in to position. I would prefer a fully flowing game but I think that this is a necessary evil.
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Post by Cooke#19 on Aug 17, 2006 14:13:03 GMT
I've gotta say I am a bit narked off that I've paid £5 for a game to be stopped every 90 seconds. That's barely long enough for a sequence of passes. I think the game would be much more effective if the coach/person running the bench blew a whistle or the horn went after the 90 seconds so the players knew to swop. Otherwise it'll be stop start, stop start and it'll get tedious. Sorry if I sound like I'm moaning, but I understand it's all for a good cause and I'm more than happy to pay £5 to see this, but I feel people would enjoy the game more if it were to be played in a different manner.
Becky
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Post by mortimershoals on Aug 17, 2006 14:21:22 GMT
I think the idea of shouting change was tried at the training session I watched. It didn't look like it worked to me with players ignoring the shouts or taking advantage of the fact that the other side were changing.
I'll be there whatever the game style.
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Post by ted on Aug 17, 2006 14:41:28 GMT
Like I say... to allow a play to finish have a delayed penalty type call.... It allows the team on the puck to finish their play and the defeneding team can defend as normal. Then Face Off in the closest zone. In training it was quite fustrating to string a few passes together to then be called for a change just as the final man got a break on the goal.
I thought we were doing 2 minutes anyway?
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Post by Rink Rush on Aug 17, 2006 14:51:17 GMT
Like I say... to allow a play to finish have a delayed penalty type call.... It allows the team on the puck to finish their play and the defeneding team can defend as normal. Then Face Off in the closest zone. In training it was quite fustrating to string a few passes together to then be called for a change just as the final man got a break on the goal. I thought we were doing 2 minutes anyway? How would that be fair to those not on the ice? Each player will have paid exactly the same as any other & as such, I believe, deserves exactly the same amount of time on the ice. 2 minutes would cause the same problem with 4 lines.
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Post by lockerbie on Aug 17, 2006 15:33:17 GMT
I absolutely agree that everyone should be on the ice for the same amount of time irrespective of their ability, would dumping the puck as already mentioned be an option rather than stopping the game?
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Post by lukethomas on Aug 17, 2006 15:39:27 GMT
Im sorry but i too disagree, but only about the 90 seconds. Ive had to referee and run the clock for under 10s games and it is hard enough keeping tabs on 2 minute intervals. Im telling you now, whoever is doing the bench for sunday will more than likely agree with me! Play under 10s rules, with NO changes. That would mean a stoppage every 2 minutes with a face off starting play. 90 seconds is far too short to be able to get a decent shift. No offence, but it will take some of the guys 90 seconds to skate from one zone to the other and get set, let alone make any play in between.
The Rink Rush so far have done a great job, but im afraid the 90 second rule is the first mistake!
For those of you saying no stops at all, it just wouldnt work. Some of the guys ive been training with have worked their butts off over the past two or three months just to grasp the rules of the game and to learn to skate and play. Changing on the fly or something similar is just one thing too much to ask!
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Post by lockerbie on Aug 17, 2006 15:56:56 GMT
Some very valid points there. I think its fair to say that every player has worked incredibly hard and done fantastically well to get the game to the standard that I expect it will be. From the sidelines the improvement has been amazing and what ever the outcome regarding how the game is played I know it will be a success.
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Post by dodyfan13 on Aug 17, 2006 23:14:19 GMT
I think dumping the puck would be the best Idea just the coach saying change and then as soon as the person with the puck cross the half way dumps it in the corner
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Post by Bretters on Aug 17, 2006 23:20:10 GMT
I agree with some of the posts above about just dumping the puck as soon as the coach shouts change. In my opinion stopping the game every 90 seconds will just slow everything down and will take the buzz out of the game. As soon as the coach shouts change, we just dump the puck and go for the change then let the game carry on from there.
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Post by lukethomas on Aug 18, 2006 9:09:03 GMT
Guys, the game is going to be stopped, however much arguing you do! the only thing that bothers me is the 90seconds. the game should follow under 10s rules and be 2 minute stops. It isnt that bad (will appear worse to those of you who play regular and are used to changing on the fly).
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Post by Rink Rush on Aug 18, 2006 9:45:33 GMT
Just to confirm that we've decided to change the length of the shifts to 2 minutes. We'll also be asking Tom Darnell, who has kindly offered to referee the game to show a certain amount of leniency to allow the game to flow as much as possible within those two minute shifts in an attempt to minimize the disruption to the game.
I'm sorry if this doesn't please everyone but we have to give all players an equal amount of ice time. Obviously rolling four lines for two minutes doesn't for exactly into sixty minutes but I understand that the two coaches will decide how they want to play the last four minutes.
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