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Post by ashfieldpanther on May 2, 2024 11:40:27 GMT
Money talks. It's as simple as that. Any Brit in Joes situation would love to hang around i'm sure. The city he is from, the club he grew up supporting. Only trips abroad should take him away. Joe has already developed into a top Brit and is very unlucky to not be getting a GB call up. In a few years he'll likely be in the top 2 or 3 in the country. Pay him what he's worth and pay forward for what he will be. You want the best you have to pay for it. We could be talking about Hazeldine, Perlini or any other player. Pay them well & look after them they will come/stay. Exactly. And whatever Guildford/Glasgow or any EIHL club for that matter can offer him we should easily at least be able to match if not better but if Panthers are planning to run with 6 import D [plus one Brit (Joe for example), whereas Clan or whoever plan to run with 5 import D plus two Brits one of which is only there as an emergency, then it must be that the other teams have more cash available to pay a British dman like Joe.
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Post by pantherlee on May 2, 2024 14:08:59 GMT
Not if Panthers have a bigger budget to start with. And when have we ever gone with 6 import D?
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Post by Joe on May 2, 2024 14:54:01 GMT
Moore to Blaze as head coach but don’t know if there’s anything in it as was posted on another forum
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Post by ashfieldpanther on May 2, 2024 15:01:35 GMT
Not if Panthers have a bigger budget to start with. And when have we ever gone with 6 import D? I think the point I'm trying to make is that all clubs have only 'x' amount to spend on players, Brits & imports. Another club might place a higher value on for example, recruiting an experienced British dman, and spend less on other areas. so it's all about what represents best value for money for your playing model. Who would have thought that O'Connor would have gone to Dundee, but I bet that the rest of their British players won't get paid a lot.
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Post by pantherlee on May 2, 2024 15:44:08 GMT
Not if Panthers have a bigger budget to start with. And when have we ever gone with 6 import D? I think the point I'm trying to make is that all clubs have only 'x' amount to spend on players, Brits & imports. Another club might place a higher value on for example, recruiting an experienced British dman, and spend less on other areas. so it's all about what represents best value for money for your playing model. Who would have thought that O'Connor would have gone to Dundee, but I bet that the rest of their British players won't get paid a lot. Yes but Ben O’Connor is now 35 and no longer on the wanted list of the big clubs so will command far less in wages than he once did. Nevertheless he’s still a talent and for a club like Dundee you’re getting an import quality Brit which will strengthen them as a whole so it isn’t really relatable. The bottom line is if we’re serious about keeping Hazeldine (which we should be) then we should be well capable of keeping him and there shouldn’t be anything that any other EIHL club can offer him that we couldn’t
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Post by sevcik on May 2, 2024 15:58:45 GMT
Moore to Blaze as head coach but don’t know if there’s anything in it as was posted on another forum I believe Kevin Moore was told by Panthers that he would have to wait for several weeks to find out if he was wanted back at Panthers this coming season. Hopefully now that Danny Stewart has been announced as coach he will find out sooner rather than later for his sake as well as the clubs, especially with this rumoured Blaze interest in him.
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Post by Joe on May 2, 2024 19:41:40 GMT
tinyurl.com/3chzhrps The new Panthers podcast with Pacha is worth a listen, sounds like we should have signing news in the next few days and we’ve got a core coming back from last season
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Post by samjohnson345 on May 3, 2024 8:59:03 GMT
Probably repeating myself, but I’m really disappointed to hear the rumours of not retaining Hazeldine. Think he’s a real quality Brit and someone you build the future around, especially compared to Tetlow, who I think is a level below him. They talk on podcasts etc about retaining a core, but to not have Hazeldine in that would be a real shame, really like his game. Fingers crossed the murmurs/ rumours are wrong and he’s back with us!
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Post by The Flying Shirt on May 3, 2024 9:54:28 GMT
Probably repeating myself, but I’m really disappointed to hear the rumours of not retaining Hazeldine. Think he’s a real quality Brit and someone you build the future around, especially compared to Tetlow, who I think is a level below him. They talk on podcasts etc about retaining a core, but to not have Hazeldine in that would be a real shame, really like his game. Fingers crossed the murmurs/ rumours are wrong and he’s back with us! I can’t see the Panthers keeping Tetlow and letting Hazeldine go to be honest. That would be utter madness
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Post by samjohnson345 on May 3, 2024 10:41:55 GMT
Probably repeating myself, but I’m really disappointed to hear the rumours of not retaining Hazeldine. Think he’s a real quality Brit and someone you build the future around, especially compared to Tetlow, who I think is a level below him. They talk on podcasts etc about retaining a core, but to not have Hazeldine in that would be a real shame, really like his game. Fingers crossed the murmurs/ rumours are wrong and he’s back with us! I can’t see the Panthers keeping Tetlow and letting Hazeldine go to be honest. That would be utter madness My thoughts exactly! But the murmurs around are that that’s exactly what’s happening. Hopefully they’re wrong! Must admit I do love the off-season rumours and merry go round, but on this occasion I hope he’s staying put!
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Post by devonlights on May 3, 2024 16:31:10 GMT
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Post by sevcik on May 3, 2024 16:43:09 GMT
Hugo Roy or Didrik Henbrant If not today then.....
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Post by awooga on May 3, 2024 16:48:56 GMT
I reckon it’s Ollie returning. Uk Rumours on X just said he’s expected to stay.
Hope so, but wouldn’t be disappointed with Roy.
Henbrandt too to a lesser extent.
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Post by blackandgold73 on May 3, 2024 20:01:30 GMT
I reckon it’s Ollie returning. Uk Rumours on X just said he’s expected to stay. Hope so, but wouldn’t be disappointed with Roy. Henbrandt too to a lesser extent. I'd definitely have Didrik back in a heartbeat but for a reason that is often overlooked with him: Not because he was our 4th highest point scorer... Not because he averaged 0.75 PPG over the season... Not because when it mattered at the end of the year he upped his level further averaging just under a full PPG in the final 10 games... Not even because he was one of the few players in the team to record a positive +/- in a losing team... Or because he always gave it everything every game... But for the simple, and continuously overlooked, reason that he did all of the above...as a first year pro!When other teams go out and find a player straight out of college who puts up 40pts we're always asking "why can we never do that?" so to let a player who can slip through our fingers who is only going to get better in his second year would be ridiculous to this poster. Add in that he also went through losing Adam in front of him in his first pro year but still out performed seasoned imports and he's a no brainer for me to try and get him back. Or, to put it another way favoured on the forum, do I think he'd walk into Steelers, Giants or Devils team after a first pro year like that? Frankly I'd be surprised if he's not already had the offer from at least one.
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Post by Joe on May 4, 2024 9:18:36 GMT
I reckon it’s Ollie returning. Uk Rumours on X just said he’s expected to stay. Hope so, but wouldn’t be disappointed with Roy. Henbrandt too to a lesser extent. I'd definitely have Didrik back in a heartbeat but for a reason that is often overlooked with him: Not because he was our 4th highest point scorer... Not because he averaged 0.75 PPG over the season... Not because when it mattered at the end of the year he upped his level further averaging just under a full PPG in the final 10 games... Not even because he was one of the few players in the team to record a positive +/- in a losing team... Or because he always gave it everything every game... But for the simple, and continuously overlooked, reason that he did all of the above...as a first year pro!When other teams go out and find a player straight out of college who puts up 40pts we're always asking "why can we never do that?" so to let a player who can slip through our fingers who is only going to get better in his second year would be ridiculous to this poster. Add in that he also went through losing Adam in front of him in his first pro year but still out performed seasoned imports and he's a no brainer for me to try and get him back. Or, to put it another way favoured on the forum, do I think he'd walk into Steelers, Giants or Devils team after a first pro year like that? Frankly I'd be surprised if he's not already had the offer from at least one. I like Henbrant and based on last season I think he’d be a perfect 3rd line guy for a team with our aspirations but Neilson has earned himself a step up and both like to play on the left and either playing on the 4th line would be a waste
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Post by blackandgold73 on May 4, 2024 9:45:15 GMT
I'd definitely have Didrik back in a heartbeat but for a reason that is often overlooked with him: Not because he was our 4th highest point scorer... Not because he averaged 0.75 PPG over the season... Not because when it mattered at the end of the year he upped his level further averaging just under a full PPG in the final 10 games... Not even because he was one of the few players in the team to record a positive +/- in a losing team... Or because he always gave it everything every game... But for the simple, and continuously overlooked, reason that he did all of the above...as a first year pro!When other teams go out and find a player straight out of college who puts up 40pts we're always asking "why can we never do that?" so to let a player who can slip through our fingers who is only going to get better in his second year would be ridiculous to this poster. Add in that he also went through losing Adam in front of him in his first pro year but still out performed seasoned imports and he's a no brainer for me to try and get him back. Or, to put it another way favoured on the forum, do I think he'd walk into Steelers, Giants or Devils team after a first pro year like that? Frankly I'd be surprised if he's not already had the offer from at least one. I like Henbrant and based on last season I think he’d be a perfect 3rd line guy for a team with our aspirations but Neilson has earned himself a step up and both like to play on the left and either playing on the 4th line would be a waste Though he spent time on the LW Henbrant's preferred position is actually listed as RW or C. So definitely not an either/or situation with Logan who is happy playing either W or C Henbrant regularly played on the RW (up and down the line up, from 1st to 3rd) as well as LW so is happy to fill in and still produce wherever he plays. Which is why he sometimes played LW sometimes RW. In fact he alternated quite regularly to start with, but ended up playing more RW down the home stretch as required Having a first year pro who can put up 40pts whilst also playing on either wing when required is a no brainer for me. And i'd absolutely have Logan back as well for the record.
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Post by wgray on May 4, 2024 12:18:19 GMT
Neilson and Henbrant would both be good signings and I think they’ll both return
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Post by Daddio on May 4, 2024 18:26:37 GMT
Henbrant Neilson and Roy back I’ve heard
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Post by bobness on May 4, 2024 19:00:23 GMT
Henbrant Neilson and Roy back I’ve heard That would make me a very happy bobness.
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Post by blackandgold73 on May 4, 2024 21:02:37 GMT
Henbrant Neilson and Roy back I’ve heard That would make me a very happy bobness. I'd be joining you in the land of happiness with those three Bob!
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Post by Bagheera on May 5, 2024 6:12:35 GMT
Henbrant Neilson and Roy back I’ve heard Would be very happy with all of those. Roy and Neilson are quite obvious I think. Henbrant had a great season for a 1st year pro. He looked good on that top line as did anybody who went up there with the other two. His signing is as much about getting some continuity season on season in the squad as it is his skills. He falls into that group that you'd pick 2 or 3 out of the 6 from to get that continuity, but not all of them. His speed proabably put's him top of that pile.
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Post by Joe on May 5, 2024 11:29:39 GMT
Henbrant Neilson and Roy back I’ve heard Given Pacha’s comments about us signing a core from last season, if we keep all the brits plus the rumoured returnees that puts us on 9 which would be a decent core to build from
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Post by pantherlee on May 5, 2024 11:42:11 GMT
Henbrant Neilson and Roy back I’ve heard I’d be happy to add Lunsjo, Neill and maybe Despres to that list too. That would be a hell of a core. If we can then improve on Rok, McGurty, Caruso, Ryczek, Anderson, Welsh, Lemay and Pare that could be a really good team
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Post by rexkramer on May 5, 2024 13:37:26 GMT
I'd take Caruso over Despres if he wanted to return, I was really impressed with how he stepped his game up once made captain. And a yes to Neill and Lunsjö. Welsh is a maybe. The rest, less so and definitely no to Anderson and Rok.
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Post by Bagheera on May 5, 2024 15:48:45 GMT
I'd take Caruso over Despres if he wanted to return, I was really impressed with how he stepped his game up once made captain. And a yes to Neill and Lunsjö. Welsh is a maybe. The rest, less so and definitely no to Anderson and Rok. Despres for me all day long. Under the condtion he gets himself fitter. I was a big fan of Caruso too and he could still do a job too with the right setup.
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