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Post by Bagheera on Mar 28, 2024 22:09:28 GMT
Top result. Did Pare get benched or something else? Only played 6:10? No, but he was put down to 4th line with Lunsjo. I did nearly have a heart attack near the end with around 1m30s left when we had an offensive zone face off and of all people Lemay was in the circle. Strange call. Pare has really gone off these last few weeks.
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Post by jd on Mar 28, 2024 22:16:42 GMT
Top result. Did Pare get benched or something else? Only played 6:10? No, but he was put down to 4th line with Lunsjo. I did nearly have a heart attack near the end with around 1m30s left when we had an offensive zone face off and of all people Lemay was in the circle. Strange call. Pare has really gone off these last few weeks. Agreed. 6:10 is shocking though, needs to be playing way more than that
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Post by yeti on Mar 29, 2024 0:06:36 GMT
Great result tonight, especially with how Fife have been playing. These players certainly never give up. Fingers crossed for two good home results now.
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Post by bobness on Mar 29, 2024 7:41:48 GMT
Top result. Did Pare get benched or something else? Only played 6:10? No, but he was put down to 4th line with Lunsjo. I did nearly have a heart attack near the end with around 1m30s left when we had an offensive zone face off and of all people Lemay was in the circle. Strange call. Pare has really gone off these last few weeks. According to the stats, Lunsjo played more minutes than Otto? Bit strange. I agree though, Pare has gone off the boil a bit lately.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Mar 29, 2024 7:52:59 GMT
Very well played Panthers
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 29, 2024 8:13:08 GMT
No, but he was put down to 4th line with Lunsjo. I did nearly have a heart attack near the end with around 1m30s left when we had an offensive zone face off and of all people Lemay was in the circle. Strange call. Pare has really gone off these last few weeks. According to the stats, Lunsjo played more minutes than Otto? Bit strange. I agree though, Pare has gone off the boil a bit lately. Honestly. I never thought was any good from the start
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Post by wgray on Mar 29, 2024 8:37:09 GMT
Top result. Did Pare get benched or something else? Only played 6:10? I wouldn’t say 6:10 was right, he featured quite a bit as we ran 4 lines throughout the entirety of the game
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Post by bobness on Mar 29, 2024 8:38:37 GMT
According to the stats, Lunsjo played more minutes than Otto? Bit strange. I agree though, Pare has gone off the boil a bit lately. Honestly. I never thought was any good from the start He's struggled to find a consistent place in the side, for me, injuries haven't helped. We've seen flashes of what he can do, but not yet the consistency for whatever reason. He's certainly improved face off winning, at the very least.
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Post by iginla on Mar 29, 2024 8:43:27 GMT
According to the stats, Lunsjo played more minutes than Otto? Bit strange. I agree though, Pare has gone off the boil a bit lately. Honestly. I never thought was any good from the start He was never going to be. It was just more classic spin.
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Post by Jono Bullard on Mar 29, 2024 9:28:42 GMT
Honestly. I never thought was any good from the start He was never going to be. It was just more classic spin. How was it classically spun? I've had a look at the original press release when he signed. The two things that stick out are Jonathan Paredes saying he is very good on face-offs (145 won vs 123 lost. 54.1% overall, easily the best face-off percentage on the team) and the he will add physicality to the line up (many said we were getting bullied and pushed around, there's been a very sharp decline in those sorts of comments since he arrived from people who watch the games). Where's the spin?
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 29, 2024 10:03:23 GMT
He was never going to be. It was just more classic spin. How was it classically spun? I've had a look at the original press release when he signed. The two things that stick out are Jonathan Paredes saying he is very good on face-offs (145 won vs 123 lost. 54.1% overall, easily the best face-off percentage on the team) and the he will add physicality to the line up (many said we were getting bullied and pushed around, there's been a very sharp decline in those sorts of comments since he arrived from people who watch the games). Where's the spin? Have to agree with all points. I don’t see what spin you’re on about and he has done all what Joni has said. He’s filled a hole and done his job but I just don’t think there’s much of a player there. Thought it was quite obvious from his first game that he had no real skill he’s just added a bit of physicality and face off success but for an import for an arena team needs to be bringing more to the table. Same goes for Welsh and Anderson
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Post by iginla on Mar 29, 2024 12:08:41 GMT
How was it classically spun? I've had a look at the original press release when he signed. The two things that stick out are Jonathan Paredes saying he is very good on face-offs (145 won vs 123 lost. 54.1% overall, easily the best face-off percentage on the team) and the he will add physicality to the line up (many said we were getting bullied and pushed around, there's been a very sharp decline in those sorts of comments since he arrived from people who watch the games). Where's the spin? Have to agree with all points. I don’t see what spin you’re on about and he has done all what Joni has said. He’s filled a hole and done his job but I just don’t think there’s much of a player there. Thought it was quite obvious from his first game that he had no real skill he’s just added a bit of physicality and face off success but for an import for an arena team needs to be bringing more to the table. Same goes for Welsh and Anderson He might be the best face off man in the team but that’s not saying much and he’s a crap player. He’s lost almost as many face offs as he’s won,not exactly great stats. Be sitting in the stands if they’re all ever fit. I’ve not seen much physicality or many big hits from him in the games I’ve watched. Or fights,he usually leaves that to Kelsall ! He’s had about two good games and scored 2+4 and is -12 in the plus/minus. One to get rid off next season.
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Post by iginla on Mar 29, 2024 12:10:07 GMT
How was it classically spun? I've had a look at the original press release when he signed. The two things that stick out are Jonathan Paredes saying he is very good on face-offs (145 won vs 123 lost. 54.1% overall, easily the best face-off percentage on the team) and the he will add physicality to the line up (many said we were getting bullied and pushed around, there's been a very sharp decline in those sorts of comments since he arrived from people who watch the games). Where's the spin? Have to agree with all points. I don’t see what spin you’re on about and he has done all what Joni has said. He’s filled a hole and done his job but I just don’t think there’s much of a player there. Thought it was quite obvious from his first game that he had no real skill he’s just added a bit of physicality and face off success but for an import for an arena team needs to be bringing more to the table. Same goes for Welsh and Anderson He might be the best face off man in the team but that’s not saying much and he’s a crap player. He’s lost almost as many face offs as he’s won,not exactly great stats. Be sitting in the stands if they’re all ever fit. I’ve not seen much physicality or many big hits from him in the games I’ve watched. Or fights,he usually leaves that to Kelsall ! He’s had about two good games and scored 2+4 and is -12 in the plus/minus. One to get rid of next season.
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Post by Jono Bullard on Mar 29, 2024 12:25:22 GMT
Have to agree with all points. I don’t see what spin you’re on about and he has done all what Joni has said. He’s filled a hole and done his job but I just don’t think there’s much of a player there. Thought it was quite obvious from his first game that he had no real skill he’s just added a bit of physicality and face off success but for an import for an arena team needs to be bringing more to the table. Same goes for Welsh and Anderson He might be the best face off man in the team but that’s not saying much and he’s a crap player. He’s lost almost as many face offs as he’s won,not exactly great stats... Now who's using classic spin?
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Post by jd on Mar 29, 2024 12:27:12 GMT
He might be the best face off man in the team but that’s not saying much and he’s a crap player. He’s lost almost as many face offs as he’s won,not exactly great stats... Now who's using classic spin? Hahahaha the irony. Knew he wouldn’t be able to show any spin……cos it didn’t exist!
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Post by bobness on Mar 29, 2024 13:51:32 GMT
There's "classic spin", clearly, apparently, but in reality, there was little, if any, "spin". He's done the 2 things the team alluded to, physicality and face offs, but Iggy still thinks he's "a crap player" and that's all that matters. Whilst we don't publicly have the stats for hits, it's been alluded to on twitter that Pare hits a lot. Perhaps a lot more than almost anyone in the league. And he doesn't fight (except the 2 fights he's had). And as for "leaving that to Kelsall" I suspect a lot depends who's on the ice when that happens, as leaving the bench to fight is generally frowned upon... And if he's good at face offs, it's the standard Iggy/Pidge "Well that just goes to show you how rubbish everyone else is" line. "He’s lost almost as many face offs as he’s won". I mean I can hardly hear that for the sound of straws being grasped at. Over 54% (which as any fule kno is what you measure face off success by) when the next best on the entire team hasn't cracked 45%... Yep, he's brought nothing there... he's only the 11th best regular face off man in the entire league. Since his first game, he has a "corrected for errors" -10, which is as good, if not better, than 5 other Panthers players. Not ideal, sure, but in no way some kind of outlier. Biggest news is that Iggy watches plenty of games, it seems. Sorry Iggy, I can't dig you here, daddio. There's no "classic spin" to see. He may not be a David Ling difference maker, that is true, but I don't think anyone, himself included, thought he would be. He's done his job for me, especially seeing as he didn't start it until mid-January.
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Post by iginla on Mar 29, 2024 14:08:17 GMT
I’ll look forward to you all welcoming Pare back next season seeing as he’s rated so highly. Every team needs a top notch power forward like him ! 🤣🙄
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Post by jd on Mar 29, 2024 14:29:47 GMT
I’ll look forward to you all welcoming Pare back next season seeing as he’s rated so highly. Every team needs a top notch power forward like him ! 🤣🙄 You found that spin yet Dave?
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Post by bobness on Mar 29, 2024 14:45:04 GMT
I’ll look forward to you all welcoming Pare back next season seeing as he’s rated so highly. Every team needs a top notch power forward like him ! 🤣🙄 As literally no-one on this thread has said.
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Post by Jono Bullard on Mar 29, 2024 15:32:41 GMT
I’ll look forward to you all welcoming Pare back next season seeing as he’s rated so highly. Every team needs a top notch power forward like him ! 🤣🙄
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Post by Higgy on Mar 29, 2024 16:18:04 GMT
I need to find the stats from a few weeks back where Pare had more hits per game than any other player in the league.
I like him,yeah he isn't a superstar but has done a job we desperately needed. We can definitely improve on him but he's only 23 I think.. has a lot of potential
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Post by yeti on Mar 29, 2024 16:42:29 GMT
Pare might not be the best power forward in the league and certainly isn't the best Panthers have had but he has come in done the job he was signed to do. He may not throw monster hits but if he did we all know the refs would just have penalised him. He throws plenty of good effective hits instead. Wins face-offs and for those of us that watch games he often wins important face-offs. No complaints for me at all.
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Post by rexkramer on Mar 29, 2024 16:48:56 GMT
I'd be interested to know if Pare's face off skills have rubbed off any of the others. Have their percentages improved since he joined the club? Whether that is by him passing on tips in training or everyone just upping their game.
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Post by bobness on Mar 29, 2024 17:33:05 GMT
I’m on it…
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Post by rexkramer on Mar 29, 2024 17:37:24 GMT
I almost felt bad dangling the carrot given I could probably have looked myself. But I'm inherently lazy.
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