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Post by wgray on Mar 4, 2024 10:23:49 GMT
I still don’t think we’re out of it. The last two fixtures weren’t easy ones on paper but it was still disappointing, especially considering we’ve a full mid week to prepare.
One frustration for me is the fact that we don’t stay in games, we concede goals in quick succession or go chasing games and they get away from us. Staying in a game and picking up a point is an ok result, but it has very rarely happened for us this season.
From the next 3 games we need to be aiming for 4 points and we must beat Glasgow. Praying for some returnees as well and that Stojanovic can find some form
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Post by Yotes on Mar 4, 2024 10:38:48 GMT
When I went through the fixtures and guesstimated the results, I had this as a zero point weekend for us (even with Cardiff at home), so won't throw my hand in yet. Clan and Flyers getting 3 points each from their double was disappointing though. From the next 3 games we need to be aiming for 4 points and we must beat Glasgow. Very much this. I think a poor week and I'd have to concede defeat. |
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Post by kievthegreat on Mar 4, 2024 12:13:59 GMT
I still don’t think we’re out of it. The last two fixtures weren’t easy ones on paper but it was still disappointing, especially considering we’ve a full mid week to prepare. One frustration for me is the fact that we don’t stay in games, we concede goals in quick succession or go chasing games and they get away from us. Staying in a game and picking up a point is an ok result, but it has very rarely happened for us this season. From the next 3 games we need to be aiming for 4 points and we must beat Glasgow. Praying for some returnees as well and that Stojanovic can find some form 2 really poor first periods this weekend hurt us. 5 goals against and 0 goals for. Comebacks are nice, but I'd rather we didn't keep giving teams headstarts. |
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Post by Bagheera on Mar 4, 2024 16:02:40 GMT
A regulation loss on Wednesday and the fat lady will be going through her warm up routine for sure.
The Cardiff result wasn't the end of the world, but Flames have been poor of late so it was dissapointing to lose that in the way we did.
The last 3 home games have been Cardiffx2 and Giants. 4 points is a decent return from that.
This Panthers team shouldn't go and win in Cardiff next week, but they probably will. 🤣
As said the Scottish games are going to be massive. For me though if we can get 8th we can still get 7th considering we still have Clan twice.
Didn't realise Coventry were so close to being dragged into it.
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Post by EMB on Mar 4, 2024 21:22:39 GMT
We very rarely win in Cardiff and on last weeks performance I cant see us doing it this weekend, Cardiff have worked us out, kept us to the boards and man marked the hell out of our scoring line. I'll keep my fingers crossed but wont hold my breath we are too inconsistent.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Mar 4, 2024 22:12:53 GMT
We very rarely win in Cardiff and on last weeks performance I cant see us doing it this weekend, Cardiff have worked us out, kept us to the boards and man marked the hell out of our scoring line. I'll keep my fingers crossed but wont hold my breath we are too inconsistent. That's when coaching comes into it |
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Post by kievthegreat on Mar 18, 2024 10:12:36 GMT
Just revisiting this and I think I'm now firmly in the "no" camp sadly. Looking at fixtures, I think there is too much to do now. By my maths we'll need 12 points from 14, with 2 really tough games this weekend or else we rely on a really big drop off from Fife and Dundee. However they play each other back to back last weekend so best case scenario is they split 2 points each.
Unfortunately the crazy schedule took it out of us too much in the end.
ps. As a side note, if it does go to the wire, it's a weird scenario where Flyers play on the Monday when both us and Dundee are finished.
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Post by iginla on Mar 18, 2024 11:33:26 GMT
Just revisiting this and I think I'm now firmly in the "no" camp sadly. Looking at fixtures, I think there is too much to do now. By my maths we'll need 12 points from 14, with 2 really tough games this weekend or else we rely on a really big drop off from Fife and Dundee. However they play each other back to back last weekend so best case scenario is they split 2 points each. Unfortunately the crazy schedule took it out of us too much in the end. ps. As a side note, if it does go to the wire, it's a weird scenario where Flyers play on the Monday when both us and Dundee are finished. Mmmm I’m not sure,I think 10 or even 9 points might just be enough. |
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Post by kievthegreat on Mar 18, 2024 11:48:09 GMT
Just revisiting this and I think I'm now firmly in the "no" camp sadly. Looking at fixtures, I think there is too much to do now. By my maths we'll need 12 points from 14, with 2 really tough games this weekend or else we rely on a really big drop off from Fife and Dundee. However they play each other back to back last weekend so best case scenario is they split 2 points each. Unfortunately the crazy schedule took it out of us too much in the end. ps. As a side note, if it does go to the wire, it's a weird scenario where Flyers play on the Monday when both us and Dundee are finished. Mmmm I’m not sure,I think 10 or even 9 points might just be enough. By just assuming the same points percentages, Glasgow and Dundee are on for 51-52 points (rounding) and Flyers 50-51. If the others struggle, then maybe we could fluke it, but I still doubt it would be enough. I think it's possibly worse though because 4 of the remaining games for our competitors are against one another. Meaning our rivals are getting a minimum of 8 points between them guaranteed. Clan and Flyers have a minimum of 4points to share between them and the same with Flyers and Stars. It's then compounded because we need to overhaul 2 teams. If Flyers pick up all 8, then that's probably our best bet as it drags both Clan and Dundee down. what we don't want is for them to spread the points around. Worst case, you could have all 3 teams getting 4 points! It's not pretty maths. The 2 games against Flyers and Stars last week are the killers I think. |
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Mar 18, 2024 11:57:27 GMT
What we won't need is if some-one (team A) goes into their final game needing to win, playing a team (team B) with nothing to play for. Because this weekend's result showed, if a team goes into a game playing at 80% they stand a chance of getting turned over by even the bottom team in the league.
I'll still believe we stand a slight chance, that in the future we could be looking back on this season end and how we pulled off something close to a miracle to qualify. But taking off the rose-tinted glasses, it's going to be very, very hard. We can't seem to give ourselves a decent chance, key players not fit, goalie not performing, too many games, too much travelling, not to emotional the emotional baggage.
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Post by jd on Mar 18, 2024 12:24:27 GMT
Just revisiting this and I think I'm now firmly in the "no" camp sadly. Looking at fixtures, I think there is too much to do now. By my maths we'll need 12 points from 14, with 2 really tough games this weekend or else we rely on a really big drop off from Fife and Dundee. However they play each other back to back last weekend so best case scenario is they split 2 points each. Unfortunately the crazy schedule took it out of us too much in the end. ps. As a side note, if it does go to the wire, it's a weird scenario where Flyers play on the Monday when both us and Dundee are finished. Sadly I agree. Way too inconsistent recently - we can get good results (was at the Belfast game and they were immense) but also had some stinking results. I don’t see us qualifying and after losing AJ the fact that we are still playing is massive. An awful season/12months, losing Hammond and Johnson as well as other deaths around the league. Never wanted a season to end so badly so they can grieve. What a first season for JP and KM. credit to them for staying, families abroad can’t have been easy for them |
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Post by John Casey on Mar 18, 2024 12:35:18 GMT
Can only go a game at a time and see how things fall
It wasn't just the recent fixture congestion, it was losing 4-3 at home to Glasgow when we was 3 up in the 3rd.
There was also that 9-7 loss in Fife and I believe we lost on Penalty Shots at home to either Fife or Dundee as well.
And who knows what would have happened if the Official didn't get in the way of Michuad which led to the Sheffield winner when The Panthers had equalised, had the momentum and the crowd buzzing.
Knowing our luck those Glasgow VS Dundee games will each end a win a piece, with both being in Overtime.
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Post by Yotes on Mar 18, 2024 12:45:29 GMT
I think we may still do it, if we can get wins against Fife (away), Coventry, Glasgow and Manchester (all home), then the odd bonus point we'll be around the 48-50 point mark. I'm guesstimating Glasgow, Fife and Dundee to be in that same range. It'll be very close though. A few back from the treatment room would help.
Wednesday could be a big game for us too. If Sheffield wrap it up they may be cruising a bit on Saturday at our place, and Cardiff's challenge would be over for Sunday, I think both become more winnable. Don't like to but perhaps we want the Yorks to get the job done midweek?
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Post by iginla on Mar 18, 2024 12:45:46 GMT
Mmmm I’m not sure,I think 10 or even 9 points might just be enough. By just assuming the same points percentages, Glasgow and Dundee are on for 51-52 points (rounding) and Flyers 50-51. If the others struggle, then maybe we could fluke it, but I still doubt it would be enough. I think it's possibly worse though because 4 of the remaining games for our competitors are against one another. Meaning our rivals are getting a minimum of 8 points between them guaranteed. Clan and Flyers have a minimum of 4points to share between them and the same with Flyers and Stars. It's then compounded because we need to overhaul 2 teams. If Flyers pick up all 8, then that's probably our best bet as it drags both Clan and Dundee down. what we don't want is for them to spread the points around. Worst case, you could have all 3 teams getting 4 points! It's not pretty maths. The 2 games against Flyers and Stars last week are the killers I think. Don’t discount Coventry having a slide, they’ve got Manchester 3 times,Guildford twice and Cardiff plus Panthers away. They need to buck up or they could be in trouble. Clan haven’t got an easy run in either apart from two games against Dundee. |
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Post by iginla on Mar 18, 2024 12:47:12 GMT
I think we may still do it, if we can get wins against Fife (away), Coventry, Glasgow and Manchester (all home), then the odd bonus point we'll be around the 48-50 point mark. I'm guesstimating Glasgow, Fife and Dundee to be in that same range. It'll be very close though. A few back from the treatment room would help. Wednesday could be a big game for us too. If Sheffield wrap it up they may be cruising a bit on Saturday at our place, and Cardiff's challenge would be over for Sunday, I think both become more winnable. Don't like to but perhaps we want the Yorks to get the job done midweek? That’s exactly how I see it too Yotes. 👍 |
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Post by kievthegreat on Mar 18, 2024 12:51:36 GMT
Wednesday could be a big game for us too. If Sheffield wrap it up they may be cruising a bit on Saturday at our place, and Cardiff's challenge would be over for Sunday, I think both become more winnable. Don't like to but perhaps we want the Yorks to get the job done midweek? They are gonna win it no matter what at this point. I'd much rather they win it midweek than at our barn. |
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Post by awooga on Mar 18, 2024 12:54:20 GMT
I think we may still do it, if we can get wins against Fife (away), Coventry, Glasgow and Manchester (all home), then the odd bonus point we'll be around the 48-50 point mark. I'm guesstimating Glasgow, Fife and Dundee to be in that same range. It'll be very close though. A few back from the treatment room would help. Wednesday could be a big game for us too. If Sheffield wrap it up they may be cruising a bit on Saturday at our place, and Cardiff's challenge would be over for Sunday, I think both become more winnable. Don't like to but perhaps we want the Yorks to get the job done midweek? That’s exactly how I see it too Yotes. 👍 It’s a shocking day when Iggy is more positive than I am. Said it weeks ago that we are dreadful away, and for every home victory over decent opposition we concede a min of 5 against the supposedly weaker teams. Add in losing at home to Fife and there’s just too much to do. I’m happy to see the season end outside the playoffs if it’s the jolt that’s needed by management to invest well for next season. Securing the return of the ones we want back should be priority now - as well as seeing what Parades wants to do at the end of the season. |
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Post by John Casey on Mar 18, 2024 12:56:22 GMT
Wednesday could be a big game for us too. If Sheffield wrap it up they may be cruising a bit on Saturday at our place, and Cardiff's challenge would be over for Sunday, I think both become more winnable. Don't like to but perhaps we want the Yorks to get the job done midweek? They are gonna win it no matter what at this point. I'd much rather they win it midweek than at our barn. Yes seeing Sheffield win it all at our barn would be typical. We've beaten Cardiff away so that is not impossible |
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Post by bobness on Mar 18, 2024 13:08:53 GMT
I think we may still do it, if we can get wins against Fife (away), Coventry, Glasgow and Manchester (all home), then the odd bonus point we'll be around the 48-50 point mark. I'm guesstimating Glasgow, Fife and Dundee to be in that same range. It'll be very close though. A few back from the treatment room would help. Wednesday could be a big game for us too. If Sheffield wrap it up they may be cruising a bit on Saturday at our place, and Cardiff's challenge would be over for Sunday, I think both become more winnable. Don't like to but perhaps we want the Yorks to get the job done midweek? That’s exactly how I see it too Yotes. 👍 Me too. |
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Post by Bagheera on Mar 18, 2024 21:10:09 GMT
I think this weekend could be the final nail, but all still a case of ifs, buts and maybes.
Dundee play midweek at home v Guildford then Glasgow & Belfast on the road Friday & Saturday.
If they better our points output in those 3 games to our 2 then we'd be really needing a lot of help. Although that is 3 games in 4 days.
That'd see us at least 5 points back, having played the same games with 5 to play.
Fife only have one game against Giants on the Sunday.
We need to find a way to get a minumum 2 points this weekend to stay in it for me.
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Post by John Casey on Mar 18, 2024 21:38:44 GMT
Is Carr back or is Dundee still having to play their back ups.
Can see them beating Glasgow, Guildford aren't complete mugs but I don't know how that'll go, can't see them beating Belfast.
Just hope none of their games go into Overtime
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