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Post by shinobi on Oct 22, 2023 19:02:04 GMT
10 points from 6 games. Regardless of the opponents, points on the board are always important. Winning games can really help build confidence and carry momentum. We've now scored 24 goals in those 6 games. The same Sheffield have in their 7 games. It's really important that Panthers now get in reinforcements quickly. Agreed. Panthers can only beat the opposition that’s in front of them on the day. They’ve won games most of us would have expected them to win, so hopefully it sets them up for when the opposition gets tougher.
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Post by yeti on Oct 22, 2023 19:46:19 GMT
The players seem to have taken to how important early form in the league is, especially against the so called easier teams. To go to Scotland two weeks running and get the points is very good. Hopefully Pacha will bring in reinforcements now we have a few injuries to keep the momentum going.
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Post by wgray on Oct 22, 2023 19:55:10 GMT
I know some people who went to the game tonight and they’ve heard from Paredes that Tetlow has suffered a broken arm which is sad to hear. He’s had a decent start to the season so he’s going to be a miss.
With regards to the game, it was good to see us show a ruthless streak on the powerplay, we seem to have established some firepower up front. Good start to the league campaign though, hopefully we can keep it going this week against Fife, if we can get Ryczek back in that would help but further additions would be very welcome. Make it happen Omar
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Post by float on Oct 22, 2023 21:13:03 GMT
Thought we were terrific tonight on pretty much all accounts. Solid netminding, had questions on Robinson after the last Storm away game but he played well tonight and only conceded 2 redirects. Started a D-man short then lost another halfway through and still didn’t let Dundee score. Stayed disciplined when Dundee tried to rough it up, and then made them pay on the powerplay. I think if we can get some productivity out of lines 3 and 4 then we’re looking good up front. But certainly hurts losing Tetlow, especially since he is a Brit. Lemay and Johnson look to be in form. Also pleased to see some decent faceoffs from us, the one from Roy for Johnson’s goal for example was great.
I do wish some people will hold back their thoughts on games until a whole weekend has been played. The bigger picture is that we have won the game we all wanted to. As I said the other week, we still have time to build on these league games and add reinforcements, if there’s a silver lining to Tetlows arm injury, it’s that it should hopefully speed up additions.
Anyway, back to ranting about Bongo drums everyone…
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Post by Joe on Oct 23, 2023 0:49:54 GMT
I know some people who went to the game tonight and they’ve heard from Paredes that Tetlow has suffered a broken arm which is sad to hear. He’s had a decent start to the season so he’s going to be a miss. With regards to the game, it was good to see us show a ruthless streak on the powerplay, we seem to have established some firepower up front. Good start to the league campaign though, hopefully we can keep it going this week against Fife, if we can get Ryczek back in that would help but further additions would be very welcome. Make it happen Omar Given the current landscape of EIHL quality brits the Tetlow injury is very tough, especially when I’ve seen some suggestions that his season could be done. I think our options at the moment are looking like Kelsall on Defence with a Brit forward taking his spot or going 6 import defencemen with a Brit forward taking an import forward spot but either way we’re going to be a weaker side following his injury
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Post by Mythosman on Oct 23, 2023 9:22:22 GMT
I know some people who went to the game tonight and they’ve heard from Paredes that Tetlow has suffered a broken arm which is sad to hear. He’s had a decent start to the season so he’s going to be a miss. With regards to the game, it was good to see us show a ruthless streak on the powerplay, we seem to have established some firepower up front. Good start to the league campaign though, hopefully we can keep it going this week against Fife, if we can get Ryczek back in that would help but further additions would be very welcome. Make it happen Omar Given the current landscape of EIHL quality brits the Tetlow injury is very tough, especially when I’ve seen some suggestions that his season could be done. I think our options at the moment are looking like Kelsall on Defence with a Brit forward taking his spot or going 6 import defencemen with a Brit forward taking an import forward spot but either way we’re going to be a weaker side following his injury I know hindsight is a wonderful thing, but the decision to release 2 of our brightest Brit prospects - Archie Hazeldine & Jack Hopkins during the summer is now looking a disastrous one! No one could have foreseen this terrible injury to Tetlow, and I hope he makes a full and speedy recovery, but it really has exposed the lack of depth we have in competitive British players. Perhaps one solution would be to try and negotiate a 2-way arrangement for a Brit D-man currently playing in the NIHL? One such, with strong Nottingham connections, is Joe Gretton, currently with the Peterborough Phantoms. He has a reputation for being quite combative too, so he could be a shrewd addition to a squad that is undoubtedly fast and skillful, but prone to being physically intimdated / dominated at times? Other than that on the Brit front, is it worth checking out the extent of Logan Neilson's defensive skills? He certainly has the family pedigree; size and attitude! With starting on the 4th line this season, his icetime has been limited when we have been short-benched, as the Coach has tended to roll just the 3 lines, with Logan and Jordan getting slotted in where needed, to provide some respite.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2023 10:40:08 GMT
Given the current landscape of EIHL quality brits the Tetlow injury is very tough, especially when I’ve seen some suggestions that his season could be done. I think our options at the moment are looking like Kelsall on Defence with a Brit forward taking his spot or going 6 import defencemen with a Brit forward taking an import forward spot but either way we’re going to be a weaker side following his injury I know hindsight is a wonderful thing, but the decision to release 2 of our brightest Brit prospects - Archie Hazeldine & Jack Hopkins during the summer is now looking a disastrous one! No one could have foreseen this terrible injury to Tetlow, and I hope he makes a full and speedy recovery, but it really has exposed the lack of depth we have in competitive British players. Perhaps one solution would be to try and negotiate a 2-way arrangement for a Brit D-man currently playing in the NIHL? One such, with strong Nottingham connections, is Joe Gretton, currently with the Peterborough Phantoms. He has a reputation for being quite combative too, so he could be a shrewd addition to a squad that is undoubtedly fast and skillful, but prone to being physically intimdated / dominated at times? Other than that on the Brit front, is it worth checking out the extent of Logan Neilson's defensive skills? He certainly has the family pedigree; size and attitude! With starting on the 4th line this season, his icetime has been limited when we have been short-benched, as the Coach has tended to roll just the 3 lines, with Logan and Jordan getting slotted in where needed, to provide some respite. It's not like panthers to make bad decisions lol
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Post by Joe on Oct 23, 2023 11:02:22 GMT
Given the current landscape of EIHL quality brits the Tetlow injury is very tough, especially when I’ve seen some suggestions that his season could be done. I think our options at the moment are looking like Kelsall on Defence with a Brit forward taking his spot or going 6 import defencemen with a Brit forward taking an import forward spot but either way we’re going to be a weaker side following his injury I know hindsight is a wonderful thing, but the decision to release 2 of our brightest Brit prospects - Archie Hazeldine & Jack Hopkins during the summer is now looking a disastrous one! No one could have foreseen this terrible injury to Tetlow, and I hope he makes a full and speedy recovery, but it really has exposed the lack of depth we have in competitive British players. Perhaps one solution would be to try and negotiate a 2-way arrangement for a Brit D-man currently playing in the NIHL? One such, with strong Nottingham connections, is Joe Gretton, currently with the Peterborough Phantoms. He has a reputation for being quite combative too, so he could be a shrewd addition to a squad that is undoubtedly fast and skillful, but prone to being physically intimdated / dominated at times? Other than that on the Brit front, is it worth checking out the extent of Logan Neilson's defensive skills? He certainly has the family pedigree; size and attitude! With starting on the 4th line this season, his icetime has been limited when we have been short-benched, as the Coach has tended to roll just the 3 lines, with Logan and Jordan getting slotted in where needed, to provide some respite. While it would be great to have Hazeldine now, he’s better than 7th dman which is what he would have been before the injury and continue to be if it hadn’t happened, same for Hopkins whose potential is a lot further up the lineup than 4th line minutes. Also based on what was said at the time both chose to leave for more ice time after we wanted them to return rather than us releasing them.
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Post by bobness on Oct 23, 2023 13:42:30 GMT
Ironically, looking at the stats, neither of them is getting the ice time they wanted, it seems. Both are currently averaging 4-7 minutes a game, a little less for Hopkins than he got here last year, but around 50% less for Archie, who average 13:39 last year for Panthers.
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Post by Adi on Oct 23, 2023 14:12:01 GMT
Given the current landscape of EIHL quality brits the Tetlow injury is very tough, especially when I’ve seen some suggestions that his season could be done. I think our options at the moment are looking like Kelsall on Defence with a Brit forward taking his spot or going 6 import defencemen with a Brit forward taking an import forward spot but either way we’re going to be a weaker side following his injury I know hindsight is a wonderful thing, but the decision to release 2 of our brightest Brit prospects - Archie Hazeldine & Jack Hopkins during the summer is now looking a disastrous one! No one could have foreseen this terrible injury to Tetlow, and I hope he makes a full and speedy recovery, but it really has exposed the lack of depth we have in competitive British players. Perhaps one solution would be to try and negotiate a 2-way arrangement for a Brit D-man currently playing in the NIHL? One such, with strong Nottingham connections, is Joe Gretton, currently with the Peterborough Phantoms. He has a reputation for being quite combative too, so he could be a shrewd addition to a squad that is undoubtedly fast and skillful, but prone to being physically intimdated / dominated at times? Other than that on the Brit front, is it worth checking out the extent of Logan Neilson's defensive skills? He certainly has the family pedigree; size and attitude! With starting on the 4th line this season, his icetime has been limited when we have been short-benched, as the Coach has tended to roll just the 3 lines, with Logan and Jordan getting slotted in where needed, to provide some respite. We have got Zaine McKenzie on a 2-way contract so might be able to utilise him a bit more.
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Post by DMS on Oct 23, 2023 14:38:06 GMT
I know hindsight is a wonderful thing, but the decision to release 2 of our brightest Brit prospects - Archie Hazeldine & Jack Hopkins during the summer is now looking a disastrous one! No one could have foreseen this terrible injury to Tetlow, and I hope he makes a full and speedy recovery, but it really has exposed the lack of depth we have in competitive British players. Perhaps one solution would be to try and negotiate a 2-way arrangement for a Brit D-man currently playing in the NIHL? One such, with strong Nottingham connections, is Joe Gretton, currently with the Peterborough Phantoms. He has a reputation for being quite combative too, so he could be a shrewd addition to a squad that is undoubtedly fast and skillful, but prone to being physically intimdated / dominated at times? Other than that on the Brit front, is it worth checking out the extent of Logan Neilson's defensive skills? He certainly has the family pedigree; size and attitude! With starting on the 4th line this season, his icetime has been limited when we have been short-benched, as the Coach has tended to roll just the 3 lines, with Logan and Jordan getting slotted in where needed, to provide some respite. We have got Zaine McKenzie on a 2-way contract so might be able to utilise him a bit more. Telford actually have first dibs on his availability I believe, I think this was the issue we faced during Betteridge/Kelsall’s recent injuries. If that is the case then we need to look to restructure the deal so we get first choice, otherwise it’s not really a true 2-way
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Post by bobness on Oct 23, 2023 15:41:18 GMT
We have got Zaine McKenzie on a 2-way contract so might be able to utilise him a bit more. Telford actually have first dibs on his availability I believe, I think this was the issue we faced during Betteridge/Kelsall’s recent injuries. If that is the case then we need to look to restructure the deal so we get first choice, otherwise it’s not really a true 2-way Indeed. A 2 way deal to me means that if the "senior" club want him (i.e. "call him up"), they get him.
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Post by wgray on Oct 23, 2023 17:21:58 GMT
Given the current landscape of EIHL quality brits the Tetlow injury is very tough, especially when I’ve seen some suggestions that his season could be done. I think our options at the moment are looking like Kelsall on Defence with a Brit forward taking his spot or going 6 import defencemen with a Brit forward taking an import forward spot but either way we’re going to be a weaker side following his injury Other than that on the Brit front, is it worth checking out the extent of Logan Neilson's defensive skills? He certainly has the family pedigree; size and attitude! With starting on the 4th line this season, his icetime has been limited when we have been short-benched, as the Coach has tended to roll just the 3 lines, with Logan and Jordan getting slotted in where needed, to provide some respite. That could be a good idea going forward, give him some time on defence in practice and see how he fairs. Kelsall works hard but I’d say even at this early point in his professional career Logan has more ability and promise as a forward, I think Kelsall’s lack of size and physicality especially let’s him down when playing defence as well
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Post by Robbie Nud on Oct 23, 2023 18:05:42 GMT
Club announced Tetlow out for up to three months.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 23, 2023 18:19:58 GMT
Club announced Tetlow out for up to three months. It looked very nasty when it happened
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Post by yeti on Oct 23, 2023 18:28:07 GMT
Ironically, looking at the stats, neither of them is getting the ice time they wanted, it seems. Both are currently averaging 4-7 minutes a game, a little less for Hopkins than he got here last year, but around 50% less for Archie, who average 13:39 last year for Panthers. That's no surprise is it. I said when they signed for Coventry they would end up playing 4th line there instead of 4th line here. Pretty obvious when every team has 15 imports. 3 lines of import forwards and 5 import Dmen mean young Brits end up on 4th line or as 6th/7th Dman with the import D players rotating. Not sure why people swallowed the whole they will get more chance to develop in Coventry.
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Post by wgray on Oct 23, 2023 19:35:38 GMT
Ironically, looking at the stats, neither of them is getting the ice time they wanted, it seems. Both are currently averaging 4-7 minutes a game, a little less for Hopkins than he got here last year, but around 50% less for Archie, who average 13:39 last year for Panthers. That's no surprise is it. I said when they signed for Coventry they would end up playing 4th line there instead of 4th line here. Pretty obvious when every team has 15 imports. 3 lines of import forwards and 5 import Dmen mean young Brits end up on 4th line or as 6th/7th Dman with the import D players rotating. Not sure why people swallowed the whole they will get more chance to develop in Coventry. The EIHL halted development for young players when they came away from the match night roster of 22 with 3 U23’s included in it. Another bad decision seemingly to appease the smaller budget teams
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Post by Joe on Oct 23, 2023 19:44:03 GMT
Ironically, looking at the stats, neither of them is getting the ice time they wanted, it seems. Both are currently averaging 4-7 minutes a game, a little less for Hopkins than he got here last year, but around 50% less for Archie, who average 13:39 last year for Panthers. That's no surprise is it. I said when they signed for Coventry they would end up playing 4th line there instead of 4th line here. Pretty obvious when every team has 15 imports. 3 lines of import forwards and 5 import Dmen mean young Brits end up on 4th line or as 6th/7th Dman with the import D players rotating. Not sure why people swallowed the whole they will get more chance to develop in Coventry. I think people swallowed it because that was the reasoning given by those involved, ultimately I’m glad we were honest with them about what we could offer because it’s likely to work out better for us in the long run.
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Post by Bagheera on Oct 23, 2023 20:04:10 GMT
A team wanting to compete would be pushing to get the best Brit possible, forward or D. Simply bringing Zaine in to play 2mins a night would be fairly pointless. I'm not saying it's easy but they should be trying to tempt the likes of Perlini again or sending offers out to some of the top guys in the NIHL.
Then get the extra import where needed.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 23, 2023 22:20:46 GMT
A team wanting to compete would be pushing to get the best Brit possible, forward or D. Simply bringing Zaine in to play 2mins a night would be fairly pointless. I'm not saying it's easy but they should be trying to tempt the likes of Perlini again or sending offers out to some of the top guys in the NIHL. Then get the extra import where needed. Panthers used to have some of the best Brits in the league until the brakes were slammed on in the spending department. Good Brits cost money and that’s why the old development chestnut has been rolled out for years. And then two leave anyway so what’s the point?
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Post by float on Oct 24, 2023 10:33:45 GMT
A team wanting to compete would be pushing to get the best Brit possible, forward or D. Simply bringing Zaine in to play 2mins a night would be fairly pointless. I'm not saying it's easy but they should be trying to tempt the likes of Perlini again or sending offers out to some of the top guys in the NIHL. Then get the extra import where needed. Panthers used to have some of the best Brits in the league until the brakes were slammed on in the spending department. Good Brits cost money and that’s why the old development chestnut has been rolled out for years. And then two leave anyway so what’s the point? I disagree with the ideas it’s to do with spending personally, we had some of the best Brits when we were winning cups with Clarke, Myers, Farmer, Lacho, Betteridge and Steve Lee Clarke - Retired Myers - Great servant between us and Cardiff and who is arguably over the hill now. Personally would have been ok to have him back, but there were a number of comments about him being past it last season. Lacho - Many wanted him gone and he did after spending his peak years here. Steve Lee - Very much the same as Lacho, never got back to his level after his injury. Farmer - Weird one, really miss having him. Betteridge - Wanted to try something new which I’ll never question, it’s a short career and if I was in his shoes I’d have done so too, he’s come back to start a family so let’s hope he gets back to what we like to see from him: For me it was a time factor rather than spending, we chucked money at Luke Ferrara last year, look where that got us? I don’t think anyone nowadays has a Brit Pack as effective as 10 years ago. I think Hopkins to Coventry was a good move for him, but I personally was sad to see Archie head the same way as he more than proved himself last season and I hope we offer him a top 6 place next year and use him and maybe Tetlow as our Brit D-men for the next 10 years to build around. Appreciate others may feel differently though.
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Post by pantherlee on Oct 24, 2023 10:44:52 GMT
The standard of Brits across the board is not what it was 10 years ago. Half the GB players are Canadian dual nats and while the import level stays at 15 the few home grown Brits are only going to get bottom line minutes which will hamper their development so I can’t see things improving any time soon
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Post by bobness on Oct 24, 2023 15:54:14 GMT
Just watched the highlights. Great open ice hit by Kelsall, Walker will cost Dundee a lot of games if he continues to behave like that all season. Good to see we didn't get involved, and let them take the penalties. Some serious sniping from Lemay too.
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Post by shinobi on Oct 24, 2023 19:47:07 GMT
Club announced Tetlow out for up to three months. We need a dislike option.
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