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Post by wgray on Sept 22, 2019 17:35:40 GMT
Disappointing result after having such a good opportunity at the start of the 3rd, we really threw that away with some lazy plays.
Belfast are much better than us offensively. Again, as we saw in the Fife game, we looked tired and a lot less fitter than the team we were facing. We didn’t put the same level of work in as they did when on the forecheck or when transitioning with the puck. Has the travel taken it out of them?
Defensively we played pretty well and Carr was terrific. Offensively we were just poor, we lacked the energy to compete with them and we definitely don’t have the same spark as them in the forward ranks. Too many passengers tonight on our team.
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Post by nottinghamsenator on Sept 22, 2019 17:39:30 GMT
A real exercise in frustration, but we’ve lost the two games I would gave expected us to on this road-trip. That said, a 4 point weekend is a must on home ice next week if we want to send a signal we’re in the mix.
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Post by Bagheera on Sept 22, 2019 17:39:54 GMT
I thought we were outclassed significantly. Carr was outstanding and I thought the rest of the team worked hard as usual. Ollie continues to look very good. Golovkos looked to be found out against better opposition. We didn't get embarressed but the difference in quality of the rosters was quite evident. We were limited to a few momments of pressure and we created little in the way of good scoring opportunities.
In all honesty it wasn't a stuffing so I can deal with it. It was quite evident before a puck was dropped that we were behind in quality on Belfast, Cardiff and Sheffield. I'm expecting more of the same on the road this season. We will deliver the odd suprise, but more often than not class will tell.
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Post by EMB on Sept 22, 2019 18:50:55 GMT
Don’t think it helped that the team only arrived straight off the plane to the arena at 3pm apparently. We had the best chances in the 2nd period but never capitalised on it.
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Post by allingtonskates on Sept 22, 2019 18:52:56 GMT
it was very disappointing when we threw away our 5 minute powerplay. need to be more disciplined.
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Post by wgray on Sept 22, 2019 18:54:38 GMT
Don’t think it helped that the team only arrived straight off the plane to the arena at 3pm apparently. We had the best chances in the 2nd period but never capitalised on it. Not the best preparation. We need to see a lot better next weekend.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 18:57:38 GMT
Remember pre season Panthers were touted as a 4th placed team.. so this result should come as no surprise.. cant have it both ways folks
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Post by wgray on Sept 22, 2019 19:09:23 GMT
Remember pre season Panthers were touted as a 4th placed team.. so this result should come as no surprise.. cant have it both ways folks Expectations are low, but it’s still frustrating when we had the opportunity we did at the start of the 3rd. The reactions to our result tonight are pretty tame I feel. Have a look on the Inferno or Steeltalk and you’ll see how high expectations can bring over-reactions...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 19:14:43 GMT
Remember pre season Panthers were touted as a 4th placed team.. so this result should come as no surprise.. cant have it both ways folks Expectations are low, but it’s still frustrating when we had the opportunity we did at the start of the 3rd. The reactions to our result tonight are pretty tame I feel. Have a look on the Inferno or Steeltalk and you’ll see how high expectations can bring over-reactions... That's justified alot more than when Panthers lose as their rosters cost a hell of a lot more and they have players not turning up. You cant be frustrated and have low expectations at the same time lol
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Post by wgray on Sept 22, 2019 19:34:10 GMT
Expectations are low, but it’s still frustrating when we had the opportunity we did at the start of the 3rd. The reactions to our result tonight are pretty tame I feel. Have a look on the Inferno or Steeltalk and you’ll see how high expectations can bring over-reactions... That's justified alot more than when Panthers lose as their rosters cost a hell of a lot more and they have players not turning up. You cant be frustrated and have low expectations at the same time lol I had low expectations prior to the game, but as the game went on and we stayed in it, I became more hopeful that we could knick a result. We were then given a prime opportunity. A five minute powerplay, going into the 3rd period, when we’re only 1-0 down, you’d expect the majority of the teams in this league to take advantage of that. Passing up on the opportunity is what has left me frustrated. The hope if you will.
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Post by spik on Sept 22, 2019 19:52:01 GMT
Need some help here. When did CARR come off (55.58?) and I assume came back on when they scored the 3rd goal at 59.23...if so the GRS will be wrong. But i still need training on how the 'goalie changes' works on the game sheet. I always get confused with it, especially as it seems to get used differently at times. How can someone actually know what went off by reading the bottom right-hand side column? Otherwise, the rest seems to tally ok.
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Post by iginla on Sept 22, 2019 21:50:35 GMT
Remember pre season Panthers were touted as a 4th placed team.. so this result should come as no surprise.. cant have it both ways folks They beat Dundee and you wax lyrical about what a good team we are. Then they lose to Belfast and suddenly we’re only a 4th placed team again. Make your mind up Pidge.
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Post by bobness on Sept 22, 2019 21:52:59 GMT
So Panthers get a 5 minute PP and succeed only in taking 3 minors during it? Ouch.
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Post by iginla on Sept 22, 2019 22:33:18 GMT
So Panthers get a 5 minute PP and succeed only in taking 3 minors during it? Ouch. Check out the face off stats !!! Jeeeez horrible....Again. 🙄😫
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Post by bobness on Sept 22, 2019 22:41:23 GMT
So Panthers get a 5 minute PP and succeed only in taking 3 minors during it? Ouch. Check out the face off stats !!! Jeeeez horrible....Again. 🙄😫 Our best face off guy was out... Bulmer C and Lacho an A?
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Post by allingtonskates on Sept 22, 2019 23:09:06 GMT
Expectations are low, but it’s still frustrating when we had the opportunity we did at the start of the 3rd. The reactions to our result tonight are pretty tame I feel. Have a look on the Inferno or Steeltalk and you’ll see how high expectations can bring over-reactions... That's justified alot more than when Panthers lose as their rosters cost a hell of a lot more and they have players not turning up. You cant be frustrated and have low expectations at the same time lol there shouldn’t ever be low expectations at this club. We are one of the biggest clubs in the league. We should be challenging every season. Anything less that that is failure. We aren’t asking to win the league 2 seasons in a row like cardiff did. We want to challenge at the end of the season and not be completely out the title race.
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Post by nightwish on Sept 23, 2019 6:28:50 GMT
That's justified alot more than when Panthers lose as their rosters cost a hell of a lot more and they have players not turning up. You cant be frustrated and have low expectations at the same time lol there shouldn’t ever be low expectations at this club. We are one of the biggest clubs in the league. We should be challenging every season. Anything less that that is failure. We aren’t asking to win the league 2 seasons in a row like cardiff did. We want to challenge at the end of the season and not be completely out the title race. I don’t think the leagues is on the managements radar - as a club we are going through a much needed change in structure - if we finish 3rd ( I think 4th is more realistic) that will be considered a success - if we manage to lift a trophy that will be considered a success. I’m not arguing that it’s the right or wrong approach that’s just I see the Organisation at the present time.
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Post by DMS on Sept 23, 2019 11:00:42 GMT
there shouldn’t ever be low expectations at this club. We are one of the biggest clubs in the league. We should be challenging every season. Anything less that that is failure. We aren’t asking to win the league 2 seasons in a row like cardiff did. We want to challenge at the end of the season and not be completely out the title race. I don’t think the leagues is on the managements radar - as a club we are going through a much needed change in structure - if we finish 3rd ( I think 4th is more realistic) that will be considered a success - if we manage to lift a trophy that will be considered a success. I’m not arguing that it’s the right or wrong approach that’s just I see the Organisation at the present time. I agree with the above but I would expect the real objective for this season is to win the Continental Cup as this is an easy route back into the CHL.
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Post by paddywack41 on Sept 23, 2019 12:12:08 GMT
I know that I am coming at this with my Teal specs on, but on Saturday against Dundee (and previous weekend against Storm), both teams played a very defensive road type game (even if Storm were at home) and had their players collapse around the netminder. This lead to the Giants controlling the game from a possession point of view but getting caught on the break as pressure mounted on them to score. I knew the Panthers were next in line that the game would be a much more open game as the Panthers were never going to come to Belfast and just crowd the net. This is pretty much what happened but strong defense from the Giants and a forward line that never really let the Panthers forwards get into the stride. My work colleague who was also in attendance said to me this morning that "this was the most toothless Panthers team I have seen for years" unfortunately based on what we witnessed last night, it wasn't far from the truth. Carr in nets was superb for the Panthers but while others are praising the D I wouldn't go as far as saying they were superb, they were ok but honestly as much blame for the scoring being lower was the inability of the Giants forward lines to really finish their shots. Owen was only close to being beat three times, once on the PP when Panthers hit the post, once on the Panthers on PP when a fluffed shot wrongfooted Owen and trickled past his right-hand post and finally when on a breakaway somehow the Giants D man managed to get a stick in an stop the chance.
Now things weren't disastrous as there was some signs that the Panthers are going to come good. Despite being under immense pressure for the majority of the game they did not give up and my heart was in my mouth until the 2nd goal went in. I still think we will see the Panthers sitting in 4th but in a year of rebuilding I would consider that a good start.
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Post by iginla on Sept 23, 2019 21:29:34 GMT
I know that I am coming at this with my Teal specs on, but on Saturday against Dundee (and previous weekend against Storm), both teams played a very defensive road type game (even if Storm were at home) and had their players collapse around the netminder. This lead to the Giants controlling the game from a possession point of view but getting caught on the break as pressure mounted on them to score. I knew the Panthers were next in line that the game would be a much more open game as the Panthers were never going to come to Belfast and just crowd the net. This is pretty much what happened but strong defense from the Giants and a forward line that never really let the Panthers forwards get into the stride. My work colleague who was also in attendance said to me this morning that "this was the most toothless Panthers team I have seen for years" unfortunately based on what we witnessed last night, it wasn't far from the truth. Carr in nets was superb for the Panthers but while others are praising the D I wouldn't go as far as saying they were superb, they were ok but honestly as much blame for the scoring being lower was the inability of the Giants forward lines to really finish their shots. Owen was only close to being beat three times, once on the PP when Panthers hit the post, once on the Panthers on PP when a fluffed shot wrongfooted Owen and trickled past his right-hand post and finally when on a breakaway somehow the Giants D man managed to get a stick in an stop the chance. Now things weren't disastrous as there was some signs that the Panthers are going to come good. Despite being under immense pressure for the majority of the game they did not give up and my heart was in my mouth until the 2nd goal went in. I still think we will see the Panthers sitting in 4th but in a year of rebuilding I would consider that a good start. I don’t buy this Panthers rebuilding excuse. The Giants must have what 11 or 12 new imports,the same as Panthers,yet i don’t see anybody making excuses for them rebuilding.
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Post by Yotes on Sept 24, 2019 11:19:47 GMT
The management at Belfast, in terms of Thornton and Keefe, has been in place for some time, you can't say the same of Nottingham. Of course you can only build if these things remain in place for a reasonable term. Whether that happens remains to be seen.
I do think the way expectation has been almost completely denuded by Panthers recent years of progressive bar lowering is a bit worrying, but, sadly, it probably reflects our true position.
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