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Post by datysuk13 on Sept 1, 2019 21:06:49 GMT
Expecting Bans for Deutsch and Connolly (the scummy one). Maybe a ban for Davies if the goal peg throwing occurred (it's an automatic game penalty during play and I'm sure DOPS will be interested to look at it). What ban would Deutsch get? Running goalies . Behave. Connelly on the other hand that's a definite no no. Did Armstrong get bans for his serial goalie running?
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Post by kievthegreat on Sept 1, 2019 21:16:34 GMT
Expecting Bans for Deutsch and Connolly (the scummy one). Maybe a ban for Davies if the goal peg throwing occurred (it's an automatic game penalty during play and I'm sure DOPS will be interested to look at it). What ban would Deutsch get? Running goalies . Behave. Connelly on the other hand that's a definite no no. Did Armstrong get bans for his serial goalie running? I don't think he SHOULD, but I reckon he will. The thing that usually saves players making those plays is contact with defenceman such that they can't avoid contact. Deutsch wasn't really impeded or forced into Duba. That said I'd expect Connolly to get more than Duetsch. Deutsch was a hockey play resulting in contact. Connolly was not a hockey play.
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Post by datysuk13 on Sept 1, 2019 21:18:01 GMT
What ban would Deutsch get? Running goalies . Behave. Connelly on the other hand that's a definite no no. Did Armstrong get bans for his serial goalie running? I don't think he SHOULD, but I reckon he will. The thing that usually saves players making those plays is contact with defenceman such that they can't avoid contact. Deutsch wasn't really impeded or forced into Duba. That said I'd expect Connolly to get more than Duetsch. Deutsch was a hockey play resulting in contact. Connolly was not a hockey play. Correct
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Post by Jord v4 on Sept 1, 2019 22:23:54 GMT
Seeing the goals how their's stood in a myste.... What's that? Darnell?
Oh, right.
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Post by BigLad on Sept 1, 2019 22:42:29 GMT
How is what Deutsche did any different to what Connolly, Davies and the serial goalie runner Armstrong did this afternoon??
If AD gets a ban, so should the rest!!!
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Post by wgray on Sept 1, 2019 23:22:23 GMT
I’m glad the team got that win today, we all needed that and I’m really taking to this team. We’ve got so much composure at the back, Matheson and Connelly are so smooth, they don’t panic under pressure and they’ve got the ability to skate out of trouble if they need to.
I think we’re seeing the beginnings of some good partnerships in the forward ranks. Bulmer and Quist look like they’re going to be our go to players when we need a goal and the fact that Ollie is centring their line speaks volumes about how valuable and important he has become. It was also good to see Golovkovs get off the mark as well tonight, I imagine that will have done his confidence a world of good. He’s going to be so valuable in situations where there’s more room out on the ice.
Quite frankly, Sheffield are a team full of rats. They’ll drive the net, leave sticks on goalies and send bench warmers out to try and get a reaction or a power play, but you won’t see a team that plays with any honour. I noticed Lepine was inviting Lemtyugov to drop the gloves at the start of the game but there was no answer, hardly surprising.
Whistle was excellent, I think he was really out to prove a point today. The fact that the Sheffield fans were chanting ‘Steelers Reject’ will probably have helped to spur him on, which is nice, and typically daft, of them!😂
Finally, the commemoration before the game today for those we’ve lost, including the great Les Strongman, was very nice to see, a well done piece by the club.
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Post by kievthegreat on Sept 2, 2019 0:13:08 GMT
How is what Deutsche did any different to what Connolly, Davies and the serial goalie runner Armstrong did this afternoon?? If AD gets a ban, so should the rest!!! What did Armstrong do particularly today? He's always a massive *ahem* on the ice, but I can't recall any particularly ban worthy incident. I think Connolly deserves to get a hefty one, it's pretty clear cut. Davies probably deserves one as well, it's just out of order to throw things at spectators, not sure of any precedence to determine how big a ban. Deutsch I THINK will get one because his evasive manoeuvres were non existent and the contact leading up to it was minimal. He should get far less than Connolly though. His is a Hockey play, Connolly's is just a series of cheap shots.
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Post by kievthegreat on Sept 2, 2019 0:15:50 GMT
Finally, the commemoration before the game today for those we’ve lost, including the great Les Strongman, was very nice to see, a well done piece by the club. That piece for Les Strongman was very good. Nice touch.
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Post by Pies on Sept 2, 2019 4:59:04 GMT
Finally, the commemoration before the game today for those we’ve lost, including the great Les Strongman, was very nice to see, a well done piece by the club. That piece for Les Strongman was very good. Nice touch. We give Moran a lot of stick but the way he honours those past legends and keeps our history alive is fantastic. 95% of the crowd will have never seen Strongman play, maybe 80% knew him from the old days. But we’ve always kept people like Les and Chick ingrained in the club and GM is a big reason for that
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Post by azbates on Sept 2, 2019 6:31:22 GMT
Great team performance last night, Whistle was outstanding, I can see him being our number 1 soon, having a calm D man in front of him seems to help.
We looked like a Tim Wallace team, hard working and playing with speed, things we have all been crying out for. We played as a team, as a unit, those who have been going to games regularly for the last few years will know that’s exactly what we have been missing.
Herr was the standout player for me again, he looks the complete package, he must be a strong candidate for the C.
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Post by iginla on Sept 2, 2019 7:05:53 GMT
Where’s Jakobs ? I can’t remember a single mention of him in any game yet. 🤔
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Post by Pies on Sept 2, 2019 7:20:37 GMT
Where’s Jakobs ? I can’t remember a single mention of him in any game yet. 🤔 Just been quietly going about his business. Nothing spectacular but also doing nothing wrong.
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Post by Shaggy on Sept 2, 2019 7:36:33 GMT
After sleeping on it... I'm still happy! I didn't see the game on Saturday (won't give that lot my money) and am rather happy I didn't. A horrible collapse in the last 12 minutes or so, but as we found out yesterday - not a clear indicator of how things may go. Sheffield obviously came out in full blitzkrieg mode - something they appear to be rather good at - and shut us in our own half for a lot of the first period. They are very dangerous going forward, it has to be said... and they've got some sneaky tricks up their sleeve (legal ones, as well as the 'rat' stuff). Their habit of waiting for us to make a line change then shooting down the opposite wing nearly caught us out several times. Smart play... and we're going to have to be smart to counter it. I'm liking our speed and teamwork... two things that were badly lacking last season. There's a lot of creativity going forwards as well. Although actually it's the defence which has impressed most so far... the whole team contributing (well almost!) and working hard at both ends of the ice. Contrast that with Sheffield's defence - traditionally their strongest point - which was actually quite poor. They're obviously looking to rely on offensive power and puck possession to carry them through... which can be effective, but can also leave them horribly vulnerable. Oh dear, what a pity, never mind. Biggest negative for us? Gui Lepine. Yes again, leaving poor old Tetlow hanging out to dry on several occasions (nicely done Josh in stepping up to cope!), taking a very badly-timed penalty, and almost total lack of physical presence. The breakaway scoring attempt... to be fair to the man, he's a D-man not a forward, he's not a natural scorer. Bit disappointing nonetheless. Biggest positive for us? - Jackson Whistle. I've never been a fan of him... he didn't impress me in a Belfast Jersey, Sheffield jersey or GB jersey. But he stood tall yesterday and handled things beautifully. The only goal he conceded... nothing he could do about that, a goalmouth scrum like that is a lottery. And he handled the close-in play/goonery (delete according to taste) from Sheffield very well. And that's the other major take from yesterday's game... this season's Steelers team are absolute dirty scum. And they get away with it. No doubt Connelly will only get a slap on the wrist for repeatedly punching Deutsch in the back of the head as he was laying face-down on this ice... no doubt Davies won't get even that for lobbing a goal peg at our fans. And those were just the two 'headline' items. It almost makes me want to say that we should have someone (Lepine?) go out there and clobber someone... but the DOPeS will put paid to that idea (nah, let's not bother with the initial offences... but clamp down on retaliation!). I can see games against Sheffield - far all teams, not just us - having a much higher potential than normal for getting nasty. So... home team wins by 4 goals both nights. Honours even? Maybe... Yes, we conceded 8 on Saturday... but only 1 yesterday. And some nice, consistent scoring - 4 goals then 5. Keep up that level of scoring and we will win an awful lot more games than we lose... as long as we don't have a last-12-minute collapse again, of course! There is hope here... Where’s Jakobs ? I can’t remember a single mention of him in any game yet. 🤔 He was invisible yesterday. My mate who went up to Sheffield on Saturday said the same thing. Just been quietly going about his business. Nothing spectacular but also doing nothing wrong. That's another (better?) way of putting it. Maybe he's a slow starter? As you say... he didn't make any howlers.
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Post by Gilly on Sept 2, 2019 7:38:34 GMT
That said I'd expect Connolly to get more than Duetsch. Deutsch was a hockey play resulting in contact. Connolly was not a hockey play. when has that ever mattered Deutsch - 10 games Connolly - 0 games and a wage rise
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Post by wgray on Sept 2, 2019 12:36:18 GMT
How is what Deutsche did any different to what Connolly, Davies and the serial goalie runner Armstrong did this afternoon?? If AD gets a ban, so should the rest!!! What did Armstrong do particularly today? He's always a massive *ahem* on the ice, but I can't recall any particularly ban worthy incident. I think Connolly deserves to get a hefty one, it's pretty clear cut. Davies probably deserves one as well, it's just out of order to throw things at spectators, not sure of any precedence to determine how big a ban. Deutsch I THINK will get one because his evasive manoeuvres were non existent and the contact leading up to it was minimal. He should get far less than Connolly though. His is a Hockey play, Connolly's is just a series of cheap shots. The thing with Armstrong is he always drives the net but never manoeuvres away from the goalie, I can remember it happening in the 2nd period last night. I don’t think there should be bans thrown about like they’re going out of fashion, the only one who warrants it is Davies, once you involve the fans you’ve stepped over the line im afraid.
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Post by Gilly on Sept 2, 2019 12:40:15 GMT
If Steelers had spent as much time focused on the game as they had chirping the fans behind their bench they might have gotten something. just couldn't resist a nibble. Deluca, Vallerand, Connolly, Brown, Graham, Lemtyugov & Davies all responded at some point during the game - much to the amusement of all in blocks 14/15 we could be in for an entertaining season if thats anything to go by
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Post by Shaggy on Sept 2, 2019 13:00:27 GMT
I don’t think there should be bans thrown about like they’re going out of fashion, the only one who warrants it is Davies, once you involve the fans you’ve stepped over the line im afraid. Whilst I agree with your general point, I would have thought that - in any league run in at least a marginally-competent fashion - the delivery of a flurry of punches to the back of the head of a player face-down on the ice should result in some additional action. I have, of course, already provided the reason why nothing will happen... the DOPeS Show and the EIHL in general being incapable of finding their own collective backside with both hands and clear instructions shouted from the stands.
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Post by Pies on Sept 2, 2019 19:00:07 GMT
Travesty that goal was given against Whistle last night
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 19:06:34 GMT
Travesty that goal was given against Whistle last night I was amazed it was allowed to stand last night, the highlights confirmed it. A real head shaker that one.
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Post by Mark on Sept 2, 2019 19:06:41 GMT
Travesty that goal was given against Whistle last night Darnell. Every decision he looks at concerning ourselves and Sheffield goes against us.
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Post by kezypanther on Sept 2, 2019 19:30:56 GMT
It says in the highlights that the back of the goal view wasn’t available to officials ... even from the view they had you can see that should not have been a goal. Thought it on the night and that confirms it, dodgey Darnell at it again.
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Post by Pies on Sept 2, 2019 19:31:36 GMT
Travesty that goal was given against Whistle last night Darnell. Every decision he looks at concerning ourselves and Sheffield goes against us. I don’t think Darnell is biased. I think the Steelers culture of pressuring the refs always seems to help them and he seems the weakest to that pressure. Thankfully that goal in the grand scheme means nothing but also outlined another part of our performance: they could only score a goal on us on Sunday that was a none goal. We need to use that as our identity moving forward because I enjoyed that style of play
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Post by PantherB on Sept 2, 2019 19:51:35 GMT
I don't think any official is 'bias' either. I just think they're inept for the majority of the time.
If it isn't missing blatant calls, it's calling extremely soft or questionable calls. And if it isn't that it's a case of them feeling the noise fans make in response to their player falling over or getting hit, means they must make a call.
Doucet said in his interview with Chris Ellis on BBC Nottingham Sport that officials are clamping down on stick infractions and other calls, things like slashing specifically. However, there must've been at least 10 incidents over the weekend where a call could've easily been made, yet wasn't. But they you get something happen which is barely noticeable, yet it gets called. I'm sure Golovkovs got tripped yesterday in front of a referee, and tripped as in the stick blade was well under his feet.
I'm struggling to get my head around why Deutsch got 5+Game for Charging too. You can see on the highlights he cuts in relatively late, but much earlier than I originally thought. Then tries to jump around/over the goalie but there is a glancing blow. It wasn't a case of he ran him into next week and didn't attempt to stop or move out the way. His feet weren't even moving either. I see no reason why he deserved a 5+Game for Charging. I would've happily accepted a minor for goaltender interference however.
I think the officials get a very hard time from the fans, sometimes it isn't justified, but sometimes it is. I do feel sorry for them and it was great to see the publicising of their training weekend at the NIC over the summer... but again, minimal training of part-time referees is useless. I wish we would just pay for full-time officials and give them the training they need.
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Post by wgray on Sept 2, 2019 23:24:56 GMT
A lot of points missing off the EIHL website from this game after watching the highlights. I might make a more accurate record and see how they match up at the end of the season...
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Post by messier1851 on Sept 3, 2019 6:35:09 GMT
That piece for Les Strongman was very good. Nice touch. We give Moran a lot of stick but the way he honours those past legends and keeps our history alive is fantastic. 95% of the crowd will have never seen Strongman play, maybe 80% knew him from the old days. But we’ve always kept people like Les and Chick ingrained in the club and GM is a big reason for that Would've been nice to have seen the tribute in the highlights. I didn't feel the highlights were very well put together at all, very choppy, coming in halfway through commentators sentences quite a bit. Sorry for finding something to complain about.
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