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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 17:06:43 GMT
I appreciate that TW/GD have got a plan in mind & are recruiting to that style (so they say) but I feel like I’m really missing something with some of these signings. More than happy to be surprised by them but I just don’t see it right now. We look well behind Shef, Card & Belf. As for the “he’s just attended the Wild’s camp” as if it’s a great sign, whilst this is a decent note it doesn’t guarantee success and there’ll be reasons why AHL, ECHL & top European teams have overlooked him. Yup and theres also a reason why players in their 30s with impressive looking CVs come here too...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 17:09:44 GMT
This kid has come from top level NCAA, he’ll be good believe me. I work at the friendship four in Belfast every year, the standard is the best I’ve seen live outside the NHL. This is a very good signing. While I agree the standard in that set up is very good have you watched a SHL game live?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 17:18:08 GMT
Who and those out there who are obsessed with +/- stats.. his were +36 last year!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 17:19:27 GMT
This kid has come from top level NCAA, he’ll be good believe me. I work at the friendship four in Belfast every year, the standard is the best I’ve seen live outside the NHL. This is a very good signing. While I agree the standard in that set up is very good have you watched a SHL game live? No, hence why I said NCAA is the best I’ve seen live.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 17:21:30 GMT
Another wait and see Could be a gem, interesting to see that he's chosen us over the Wild?! He hasn't chosen us over the wild.. I'm pretty sure he wasnt selected in their rookie try out camp
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Post by pantherlee on Jul 15, 2019 17:28:03 GMT
Who and those out there who are obsessed with +/- stats.. his were +36 last year! +11 last last year. +36 over 4 years for Notre Dame
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Post by PantherB on Jul 15, 2019 17:42:26 GMT
At the end of the day, if Malmquist wants to make it as a professional hockey player in Europe then he's going to have to perform. For a player with his skillset and production over his time with Notre Dame, some might have expected him to either end up in the AHL this season or elsewhere in Europe, a higher standard league. For all we know, Malmquist might have had interest from the AHL or some interest from elsewhere in Europe.. the offers of PTO's or invitations to AHL training camps in September, but he might not have been happy with that. He might've been told by an AHL team he'd be 4th line and likely to spend time in the ECHL if he joined them and not been happy with that. There's a lot of potential reasons as to why he's ended up with us.
The fact is though, he's a Panther. He's 22 and he must perform to the best of his ability if he wants to make progress in his career so whilst the experience may not be there, as others have said, he's had the responsibility placed upon him as an alternate captain and has just graduated from a very good school, with a superb hockey programme. He should be up there with the fittest and most durable. There are certainly reasons to be sceptical but there are so many reasons to be excited and sure it could come back to bite myself and others on the rear end but this is the new era part II and I'm trying to be more optimistic than I perhaps may usually be. Wallace and Doucet are both highly motivated to succeed and I think it'll rub off onto the players.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 18:02:11 GMT
At the end of the day, if Malmquist wants to make it as a professional hockey player in Europe then he's going to have to perform. For a player with his skillset and production over his time with Notre Dame, some might have expected him to either end up in the AHL this season or elsewhere in Europe, a higher standard league. For all we know, Malmquist might have had interest from the AHL or some interest from elsewhere in Europe.. the offers of PTO's or invitations to AHL training camps in September, but he might not have been happy with that. He might've been told by an AHL team he'd be 4th line and likely to spend time in the ECHL if he joined them and not been happy with that. There's a lot of potential reasons as to why he's ended up with us. The fact is though, he's a Panther. He's 22 and he must perform to the best of his ability if he wants to make progress in his career so whilst the experience may not be there, as others have said, he's had the responsibility placed upon him as an alternate captain and has just graduated from a very good school, with a superb hockey programme. He should be up there with the fittest and most durable. There are certainly reasons to be sceptical but there are so many reasons to be excited and sure it could come back to bite myself and others on the rear end but this is the new era part II and I'm trying to be more optimistic than I perhaps may usually be. Wallace and Doucet are both highly motivated to succeed and I think it'll rub off onto the players. Exactly this. You have to be exceptional to go from college straight onto the top 6 in the AHL. Dont worry if he performs he will soon end up somewhere like the NLA or Liiga the year after.
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Post by sevcik on Jul 15, 2019 18:35:54 GMT
Ex Panther Alex Nikiforuk was one such player who went straight from NCAA to Europe (albeit with a slightly better PPG - not that necessarily means anything) He went to Finland initially & then made a career around Europe & he is of course far from the only one.
Time will tell if Dylan Malmquist can or even wants to follow a similar route in the seasons to come.
One things for sure Stefs got some interesting names to announce this year....😁
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Post by PantherG on Jul 15, 2019 18:48:22 GMT
I appreciate that TW/GD have got a plan in mind & are recruiting to that style (so they say) but I feel like I’m really missing something with some of these signings. More than happy to be surprised by them but I just don’t see it right now. We look well behind Shef, Card & Belf. To be honest when we re signed Lepine and Rheult, we were already miles behind,.... I think we will go cheap and cheerful this season and work hard for the following season. I think the late appointment of Doucet and then Wallace, who people say was not first choice, I think we were on the back foot, so we have to accept that we will not be challenging the big guns this coming season.
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Post by wannabe2 on Jul 15, 2019 19:01:06 GMT
I actually think this young lad could turn out to be a gem, think the Panthers just may surprise a few people, hopefully.
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Post by kezypanther on Jul 15, 2019 19:26:41 GMT
For what this is worth saw it on Facebook and the guy seems to follow the NCAA
"Wow!!! What a signing by the Panthers 😮
Can't believe Tim Wallace & Gui Doucet have managed to pull this one out of the bag.
I've watched him play at both Edina High School & for the University of Notre Dame. He is a highly rated prospect. Whether he stays the whole season with Panthers, is another matter. But I know that I can't wait to attend a few Panthers games next season to see him play.
Trust me Panthers fans, you're going to love this kid. He also has a younger brother, Liam who has just graduated Edina High School & he is every bit as talented. Welcome to Nottingham Dylan. 🏒🥅🐝💚"
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Post by Shaggy on Jul 15, 2019 23:37:26 GMT
As if we really needed the living incarnation of the 'wait & see' signing! Seriously, though... this one is very interesting. The potential upside to this guy is enormous... fast, skilled, young & hungry, already recognised as having leadership capabilities, and just getting to an NHL team's training camp is a pretty big plus. Oh, and speaking of 'plus'... it's one of the dodgier stats out there, but a total +/- of +36 in NCAA is nothing to sneeze at. Of course, it could all go horribly wrong... but as we've seen in the past, there is no single type of player where that can't happen. And sometimes (as I strongly suspect happened with Chernomaz and several players) it's not wholly or even mostly down to the individual player (which gives me a straw to grasp re the likes of Jon Rheault). And this signing, possibly more than any of the others, would seem to be indicative of the overall ethos of the team that Doucet and Wallace are building. Concentrating upon - although not exclusively - speed, hopefully plenty of flair, and also hopefully lots of 'will to win'. Not really much on the size or obvious hitting power (yet! - there's always the chance that we could yet be seeing a 6'8" monster who hits like a freight train)... you could almost call this an 'anti-Chernomaz' roster. Of course, given how badly last season went (even though we somehow managed to be 'best of the rest' and get to third, which still amazes me) maybe going in a completely different direction could well be a good thing? It would certainly appear (I stress that word, because we really just don't know) that we are not going to be seeing anything like 'same old, same old'. Good. Of course I want us to win games, lift trophies, beat anything and everything that gets put in front of us. But right now... I'm happy to settle for some good, entertaining hockey where the team go out and work their cojones off... where win or lose, you know they give it everything they can. Tim Wallace is supposed to be a coach who can inspire his players to do just that... a fair few of these signings - Malmquist especially - would appear to be the type of player that you would think would respond well to that kind of ethos. Probably. Hopefully. No information leaks, very few predictable signings of familiar faces... this makes a refreshing change. It is to be hoped that we get the same when the puck drops.
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Post by Jord v4 on Jul 16, 2019 8:40:55 GMT
This says a lot for me.... I've known about one signing only this season, that's unheard of. Last year I knew them all, well almost anyway.
Something has definitely changed.
Edit - Forgot about Davies, I knew we had no interest at all in him.
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Post by nightwish on Jul 16, 2019 11:12:51 GMT
Really pleased withis signing - I’m fed up of hearing big fanfares for players who have played a zillion times in the AHL and other top leagues and they turn out to be journey men who ended up making no significant contribution to the team.
Give me be kids on the block any day who don’t see playing for Panthers as just a paid sight seeing tour of the UK.
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Post by Yotes on Jul 16, 2019 11:18:37 GMT
Something has definitely changed. Sounds like your source doesn't like you anymore
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Post by Jord v4 on Jul 16, 2019 11:25:11 GMT
Something has definitely changed. Sounds like your source doesn't like you anymore Oh they do... but more when it suits them/the club now it seems... ala Davies.
I will contemplate removing my self annointed ITK status.
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Post by Yotes on Jul 16, 2019 11:25:50 GMT
Really pleased withis signing - I’m fed up of hearing big fanfares for players who have played a zillion times in the AHL and other top leagues and they turn out to be journey men who ended up making no significant contribution to the team. Give me be kids on the block any day who don’t see playing for Panthers as just a paid sight seeing tour of the UK. Why would a younger player not see a year in the UK in that way? I'd think it more likely tbh. Young, free, single and fawned over big time, why's that not a worse recipe? I'm sure I remember one of Corey's later seasons where we made a big thing of going younger and quicker, it didn't work (was it the Max Parent season?). Not saying it won't work this season too, but it's nothing new. The ethos was still the same, the club was still the same. Maybe the club will be different with Doucet and Wallace, but the old crowd are still in situ.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 11:55:41 GMT
Really pleased withis signing - I’m fed up of hearing big fanfares for players who have played a zillion times in the AHL and other top leagues and they turn out to be journey men who ended up making no significant contribution to the team. Give me be kids on the block any day who don’t see playing for Panthers as just a paid sight seeing tour of the UK. This!
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Post by cjmatt42 on Jul 16, 2019 12:31:27 GMT
Taking a look back over the last few years of NCAA stats shows what a wide range of talent this guy might have.
Malmquist's 30 points at 0.75ppg in his senior year (18/19) were good for 93rd on the overall scoring charts.
2017/18 saw Brady Tkatchuk finished 95th in his senior year with 31 points at 0.78ppg and of course he went on to score 45 points in the NHL the next season. Clearly Malmquist will be below this level but shows the extent of potential.
The flip side comes from 2016/17 when Griffen Molino netted 33 points at 0.83ppg in his senior year. His first year pro was restricted to 46 games in the AHL and 2nd year he migrated to splitting time between AHL and ECHL and as yet appears to be unsigned for the coming season at AHL level so would presumably end up in the ECHL full time or elsewhere. On the face of it this guy has been found out quite quickly since graduating from college hockey.
Only working off stats and obviously stats can be inflated or suppressed by ice time and quality of the team you play for but at face value you could have anything between a gem of a find to a young player that has migrated to his true level straight from College.
Time will tell I guess.
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Post by nightwish on Jul 17, 2019 6:36:05 GMT
Really pleased withis signing - I’m fed up of hearing big fanfares for players who have played a zillion times in the AHL and other top leagues and they turn out to be journey men who ended up making no significant contribution to the team. Give me be kids on the block any day who don’t see playing for Panthers as just a paid sight seeing tour of the UK. Why would a younger player not see a year in the UK in that way? I'd think it more likely tbh. Young, free, single and fawned over big time, why's that not a worse recipe? I'm sure I remember one of Corey's later seasons where we made a big thing of going younger and quicker, it didn't work (was it the Max Parent season?). Not saying it won't work this season too, but it's nothing new. The ethos was still the same, the club was still the same. Maybe the club will be different with Doucet and Wallace, but the old crowd are still in situ. We have only one 1 championship in living memory with ‘experienced’ professionals - otherwise known as journeymen - Guys effectively just startingin their career have something to prove.
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Post by Bagheera on Jul 17, 2019 7:01:21 GMT
Really pleased withis signing - I’m fed up of hearing big fanfares for players who have played a zillion times in the AHL and other top leagues and they turn out to be journey men who ended up making no significant contribution to the team. Give me be kids on the block any day who don’t see playing for Panthers as just a paid sight seeing tour of the UK. Why would a younger player not see a year in the UK in that way? I'd think it more likely tbh. Young, free, single and fawned over big time, why's that not a worse recipe? I'm sure I remember one of Corey's later seasons where we made a big thing of going younger and quicker, it didn't work (was it the Max Parent season?). Not saying it won't work this season too, but it's nothing new. The ethos was still the same, the club was still the same. Maybe the club will be different with Doucet and Wallace, but the old crowd are still in situ. I've been thinking the same with all this new approach with a younger team business. It 100% was a big Corey statement going into 1 season. I actually have a feeling it was his last. The Parent season feels to long ago. The likes of Sauve, Philips, Shalla, Brown, Bussieres, Mokshantsev, Gagnin, Brisbois, Billingsley(Perlini too as a newbie)all under 30. Only a sprinking of over 30s. Garnett, Derlargo & Spang were the only imports over 30s at the season beggining. That season went well. Not writing anything off by any stretch, but we have been here before, all beit under a different regime.
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Post by Pies on Jul 17, 2019 7:45:05 GMT
I don’t think age is the be all and end all.
Ultimately, it’s about the coach getting buy in from the players to play his systems. It’s then about GD making sure that if players aren’t, they’re shipped off and replaced quickly.
There has got to be that culture shift in Nottingham and certainly a change in perception of what the players are like when they come here.
That’s the biggest challenge facing the new structure.
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Post by wolfmac on Jul 17, 2019 12:46:24 GMT
For what this is worth saw it on Facebook and the guy seems to follow the NCAA "Wow!!! What a signing by the Panthers 😮 Can't believe Tim Wallace & Gui Doucet have managed to pull this one out of the bag. I've watched him play at both Edina High School & for the University of Notre Dame. He is a highly rated prospect. Whether he stays the whole season with Panthers, is another matter. But I know that I can't wait to attend a few Panthers games next season to see him play. Trust me Panthers fans, you're going to love this kid. He also has a younger brother, Liam who has just graduated Edina High School & he is every bit as talented. Welcome to Nottingham Dylan. 🏒🥅🐝💚" Everything, absolutely everything on paper suggests he’ll be great. Edina is a SERIOUS hockey school in the serious hockey state; they won the MN high school tourney this season. Notre Dame provides one of the sharpest NCAA pedigrees and as others have said, his numbers stand up decently against eventual NHLers. All the buts are from fan experience and the...perks, shall we say, Nottingham offers to promising but impressionable players, let alone a college kid - I should know, I went to Notts Uni. A lot rests on TW/GD’s influence on the historic team culture and reputation amongst players - a paid city-centre frat house. Wait and see, indeed.
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Post by allingtonskates on Jul 17, 2019 13:04:58 GMT
Obviously it’s a wait and see but I think Dylan will be a absolute gem for us.
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