loupowell52
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Post by loupowell52 on Apr 26, 2019 8:04:58 GMT
Panthers should have been thinking outside the box as far as a new Head Coach is concerned. Just as there are thousands of potential player signings, so there are hundreds of potential Coaches who would relish the opportunity for a crack at the position in Nottingham. Great hockey city, a team with a rich history, a devoted fan base and overall a club with gigantic potential. I just question if Panthers are good, brash and brave enough to make such an appointment.
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Post by spik on Apr 26, 2019 8:13:06 GMT
I do like that the club have gone for a fresh approach. But we still seem to be clinging on to the old ways in some respect in making sure we keep strachan on board. Although having a director of hockey is certainly a good thing and should eliminate Moran from on ice operations I’m not sure about Doucets credentials. What has he done before that makes him the man for the job? It's a case of 'wait and see' for us. As the whole change is - as yet - not all unfolded. I'm not used to anything other than a coach pulling the strings, signing his players and coaching them.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2019 8:13:48 GMT
Panthers should have been thinking outside the box as far as a new Head Coach is concerned. Just as there are thousands of potential player signings, so there are hundreds of potential Coaches who would relish the opportunity for a crack at the position in Nottingham. Great hockey city, a team with a rich history, a devoted fan base and overall a club with gigantic potential. I just question if Panthers are good, brash and brave enough to make such an appointment. Who would you consider a ‘thinking outside the box’ type of appointment?
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Post by Bagheera on Apr 26, 2019 8:15:37 GMT
Stewart as player/coach ? (only a guess) I was thinking myself that this now points more towards a player coach/first time appointment. Fairly sure we wont be getting the likes of big Doug now. Not against that as such. Look at the names who have been successful in this league and most have started that way. The coaching appointment will determine how good this looks. I do not like the fact we are annoucing assistant before head coach though. You dont really know what you need for that role until you know the strengths of the head coach. Clinging on to the old still has tainted the positve headline for me.
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Post by panthers4ever on Apr 26, 2019 8:20:21 GMT
About time too
Well done Panthers
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iginla
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Post by iginla on Apr 26, 2019 8:32:02 GMT
So what exactly is this director of hockey going to bring ? He won’t have overall control to change the ethos of the club whilst ever Moran and Black are above him. It’s just yet another off ice puppet dangling on the ever growing,ever lengthening piece of Panthers string. Rather than even more off ice staff how about spending the money on the ice !!
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Post by Yotes on Apr 26, 2019 8:41:49 GMT
Although anything from HQ needs treating with suspicion, we could at least give Doucet the chance to show whether he can change the club, before completely writing it off.
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Post by pantherlee on Apr 26, 2019 8:58:54 GMT
Panthers should have been thinking outside the box as far as a new Head Coach is concerned. Just as there are thousands of potential player signings, so there are hundreds of potential Coaches who would relish the opportunity for a crack at the position in Nottingham. Great hockey city, a team with a rich history, a devoted fan base and overall a club with gigantic potential. I just question if Panthers are good, brash and brave enough to make such an appointment. Who would you consider a ‘thinking outside the box’ type of appointment? Rich Chernomaz
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Post by Carnell on Apr 26, 2019 9:20:10 GMT
Its an interesting one for me.
Appointing a "Director of Hockey" is essentially taking away some of the responsibility from the Head Coach during the summer in terms of recruitment. This to me seems to suggest we may be looking at appointing a coach who doesn't do his own recruitment, such as Adey/Barrasso, both who have been mentioned on here before.
The biggest thing for me is the follow up paragraphs in the storey, staying there Doucet will also head up a new hockey board. "the new Panthers’ hockey board which will allow the on-ice management team to take on board outside knowledge, updates, innovations, and ideas to keep the club abreast of current thinking."
This sounds like we will be sending Doucet or other members of the board, off to other leagues to meet with their equal parts to discuss ways forward, which might help build bridges in Europe and NA, widening our network which could come in handy going forward.
Whether it pans out that way is certainly a "wait and see", but it seems GM is moving away from the on ice side of things. This should be a massive positive and a move in the right direction, I just hope these changes will have some affect on the ice.
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Joe
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Post by Joe on Apr 26, 2019 9:20:26 GMT
One thing that should change with the appointment of a DOH is the time it takes for change to happen if needed
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Post by Carnell on Apr 26, 2019 9:23:13 GMT
One thing that should change with the appointment of a DOH is the time it takes for change to happen if needed As long as Doucet is somewhat disconnected from the players, sometimes I feel the coach has been too loyal to the players due to building that relationship with them. If Doucet can stay at arms length then it should help in making the hard decisions. At the end of the day, this is Doucet's first role (I assume) of hiring and firing, so we will have to see how he adapts to the role change
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Post by SteelerBlade on Apr 26, 2019 9:48:30 GMT
Wonder why you've only started looking for a new coach now?
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oldman
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Post by oldman on Apr 26, 2019 9:52:49 GMT
Stewart as player/coach ? (only a guess) Agree but maybe assistant coach alongside Strachen with opportunity to move up the framework and gain knowledge on the way, Stewart might also have good contacts to persuade to come over? For me this is a real possitive obviously we will need to see how it developes, the only drawback for me would be involving Green ( surely Father in Law can employ him elsewhere, say head of catering or the cleaners)
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Post by Optic on Apr 26, 2019 9:58:50 GMT
Radio interview had Gary saying Strachen will be assistant coach "he hopes"... So that still isn't confirmed
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2019 10:04:20 GMT
Wonder why you've only started looking for a new coach now? Perhaps Doucet has his eye on a coach still in the playoffs in NA
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Post by EMB on Apr 26, 2019 10:04:32 GMT
Radio interview had Gary saying Strachen will be assistant coach "he hopes"... So that still isn't confirmed I assume that's more to do with Rick and his business, if he lends himself to Panthers like last season he's going to need someone to run his own business in the long run. Maybe he's got to decide what's best for him.
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Post by Rob Scott on Apr 26, 2019 10:26:39 GMT
Can’t say I’m seeing anything particularly exciting or different here. Whats going to change other than you basically got somebody else in on recruiting. Remember they’ve always said Moran is not involved in recruiting so it doesn’t kick him down the road on that score. And we’ve brought in another from the previous old boys club,who from what we know has little or no experience of directing or coaching professionally. Mmmm,see who the coach is before this is any sort of decent move because i’m not seeing it. Good job you don’t got anymore so you don’t need to worry about this! Very childish post from anyone. Especially from a Mod.
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Post by jd on Apr 26, 2019 10:31:29 GMT
Good job you don’t got anymore so you don’t need to worry about this! Very childish post from anyone. Especially from a Mod. You can see where pies is coming from Rob?
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nottinghamsenator
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Post by nottinghamsenator on Apr 26, 2019 10:32:47 GMT
Who would you consider a ‘thinking outside the box’ type of appointment? Rich Chernomaz Who could legit be DEL 2 Champion tonight. The whole thing feels like some kind of Fever Dream now tbh.
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Post by Rob Scott on Apr 26, 2019 10:35:54 GMT
Very childish post from anyone. Especially from a Mod. You can see where pies is coming from Rob? Just a cheap shot for me. You see more and more of this type of thing on social media and forums. People seem to be unable to cope with someone having a different viewpoint from them. On topic, I can't see this changing the ethos of the club so i'm unconvinced it will have much impact on the way things are run. Nothing against GD though so all the best to him.
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Post by jdizpt8 on Apr 26, 2019 10:36:02 GMT
- Doucet is there to oversee all hockey operations on the ice and hopefully has wheels in motion
- Stewart as player coach
- Rick is just to oversee the match whilst Stewart is playing and reports back during intermissions
- Dan green is just in charge of player housing and city familiarity
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Post by PantherB on Apr 26, 2019 10:43:03 GMT
I do really like this appointment but I am slightly concerned.
Doucet spoke in the interview of player recruitment being 2nd priority until the coach is in place. Fair enough, but he's been doing the coach search for no more than a week.. what if it takes a month or more? There are players I and others hope to be re-signed, will we have to wait until we get a coach before anyone is re-signed/signed? Will that not potentially create a scenario where the guys we do want to re-sign have already committed elsewhere?
I think Doucet will do a good job and I really hope he has some signing news for us soon. Not heard anything regarding any of the Brits besides Ollie and Tetlow, Perlini and Farmer should be under contract still but again.. another thing we are never told in plain English.
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Post by jd on Apr 26, 2019 10:50:53 GMT
You can see where pies is coming from Rob? Just a cheap shot for me. You see more and more of this type of thing on social media and forums. People seem to be unable to cope with someone having a different viewpoint from them. On topic, I can't see this changing the ethos of the club so i'm unconvinced it will have much impact on the way things are run. Nothing against GD though so all the best to him. Think it’s fair to say though, Iginla never comes to games and loves to pull the whole organisation apart. Whatever they do he moans at, so it’s not a cheap shot - more an observation than anything else
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Post by Rob Scott on Apr 26, 2019 10:52:33 GMT
Just a cheap shot for me. You see more and more of this type of thing on social media and forums. People seem to be unable to cope with someone having a different viewpoint from them. On topic, I can't see this changing the ethos of the club so i'm unconvinced it will have much impact on the way things are run. Nothing against GD though so all the best to him. Think it’s fair to say though, Iginla never comes to games and loves to pull the whole organisation apart. Whatever they do he moans at, so it’s not a cheap shot - more an observation than anything else Maybe he does. If what he says is wrong or stupid then he would be easy to beat in a discussion wouldn't he? Just thought it was playground stuff from Pies and for some reason expected better.
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Post by nottinghamsenator on Apr 26, 2019 10:57:35 GMT
I do really like this appointment but I am slightly concerned. Doucet spoke in the interview of player recruitment being 2nd priority until the coach is in place. Fair enough, but he's been doing the coach search for no more than a week.. what if it takes a month or more? There are players I and others hope to be re-signed, will we have to wait until we get a coach before anyone is re-signed/signed? Will that not potentially create a scenario where the guys we do want to re-sign have already committed elsewhere? I think Doucet will do a good job and I really hope he has some signing news for us soon. Not heard anything regarding any of the Brits besides Ollie and Tetlow, Perlini and Farmer should be under contract still but again.. another thing we are never told in plain English. We had the bizarre situation of Strachan doing exit interviews last week, despite no one knowing their position, unless Doucet really had the final say on all these players all along and Strachan was just the face of it?
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