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Post by ant on Apr 18, 2019 7:34:58 GMT
After a car crash of a season (Yes finishing 3rd in a 4 team league and winning no trophies is just that when you are the biggest club in a sport) we hear nothing from above. It is unbelievable that our owner , or GM, do not feel the need to communicate properly with the fans. Sheffield, although much maligned, have done this exceptionally well and released all the information straight away for the last two years. Their fans have been immediately reassured. Our club does not consider or look after its fans in this way. They are also unable to make tough decisions. Some of our players are on two year deals but we need to release them from them as they are good enough. The time to speak to the fans is now not by drip feed. This is not a thread of insults but a plea to respect your fan base. We don’t want other teams fans to regard our club as arrogant but that is what they often say. The supporters need a strong statement that outlines the high level of aspiration the club has and zero tolerance for uncommitted players followed by swift action and multiple player releases ( virtually all imports) as well as a couple of marquee signings and a coach. No I don’t think I could do the job better but I do know from a fans perspective what impressive leadership looks like.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2019 7:50:50 GMT
After a car crash of a season (Yes finishing 3rd in a 4 team league and winning no trophies is just that when you are the biggest club in a sport) we hear nothing from above. It is unbelievable that our owner , or GM, do not feel the need to communicate properly with the fans. Sheffield, although much maligned, have done this exceptionally well and released all the information straight away for the last two years. Their fans have been immediately reassured. Our club does not consider or look after its fans in this way. They are also unable to make tough decisions. Some of our players are on two year deals but we need to release them from them as they are good enough. The time to speak to the fans is now not by drip feed. This is not a thread of insults but a plea to respect your fan base. We don’t want other teams fans to regard our club as arrogant but that is what they often say. The supporters need a strong statement that outlines the high level of aspiration the club has and zero tolerance for uncommitted players followed by swift action and multiple player releases ( virtually all imports) as well as a couple of marquee signings and a coach. No I don’t think I could do the job better but I do know from a fans perspective what impressive leadership looks like. The day this club respects the fans and communicates well will be the day hell freezes over. For as long as I can remember they have treated their long suffering fans with complete contempt
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Post by spik on Apr 18, 2019 7:55:32 GMT
Over the playoff weekend, the fans of other teams told me how they held their respective owners/managers in high regard.
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Post by kezypanther on Apr 18, 2019 7:59:52 GMT
I totally agree and believe me people are starting realise the same. A group of 7 of us used to have season tickets, that was down to 2, two years ago. Last season 0. Just reading on Facebook many people aren't renewing season tickets instead picking and choosing games.
Up until last season I never missed a home game since I was 15 years old. Last season I only went to a handful of games. Its such a shame but I can't see anything changing that in the near future.
The least they could do is issue a statement at the end of the season to say it wasn't acceptable and what they plan to do to rectify it. But we just get total silence.
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Optic
Corey Neilson
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Post by Optic on Apr 18, 2019 8:10:06 GMT
Problem is none of our higher ups are on social media,the day I see a headline from Panthers that says STATEMENT FROM BLACK will be the day it will please quite a few fans
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Post by Rob Scott on Apr 18, 2019 8:34:56 GMT
After a car crash of a season (Yes finishing 3rd in a 4 team league and winning no trophies is just that when you are the biggest club in a sport) we hear nothing from above. It is unbelievable that our owner , or GM, do not feel the need to communicate properly with the fans. Sheffield, although much maligned, have done this exceptionally well and released all the information straight away for the last two years. Their fans have been immediately reassured. Our club does not consider or look after its fans in this way. They are also unable to make tough decisions. Some of our players are on two year deals but we need to release them from them as they are good enough. The time to speak to the fans is now not by drip feed. This is not a thread of insults but a plea to respect your fan base. We don’t want other teams fans to regard our club as arrogant but that is what they often say. The supporters need a strong statement that outlines the high level of aspiration the club has and zero tolerance for uncommitted players followed by swift action and multiple player releases ( virtually all imports) as well as a couple of marquee signings and a coach. No I don’t think I could do the job better but I do know from a fans perspective what impressive leadership looks like. Look, just fill out your season ticket form and pipe down. There's a good customer.
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Post by Yotes on Apr 18, 2019 9:03:33 GMT
When Neil "Nobody's a bigger fan than me" Black does talk his words are worthless. Think I'd rather not hear from him ever again, unless it's to announce he's selling up to move to Bermuda.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2019 9:14:00 GMT
Got told someone bumped into NB in the 1st intermission on Saturday and said to him " it's not going well is it" and NB replie was "it's a good game but shame about the score" says it all about this owner... get him out of this club
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Randall Weber
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Post by EMB on Apr 18, 2019 10:05:39 GMT
Why is Rick Strachen doing the exit interviews, hiring and firing when he doesn't even know whether he has a job or not. The decisions are obviously coming from above. Everyone thinking Henderson was taking over, well not at the moment because he's been released. Potentially not even a coach lined up at the moment unlike last year so you'd have to assume Rick is staying otherwise we are already miles behind.....again
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2019 10:47:18 GMT
Why is Rick Strachen doing the exit interviews, hiring and firing when he doesn't even know whether he has a job or not. The decisions are obviously coming from above. Everyone thinking Henderson was taking over, well not at the moment because he's been released. Potentially not even a coach lined up at the moment unlike last year so you'd have to assume Rick is staying otherwise we are already miles behind.....again How do you know if hes been released?
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Robert Lachowicz
How much wood could a Tkachuk chuck if a Tkachuk could chuck wood?
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Post by nottinghamsenator on Apr 18, 2019 11:57:13 GMT
It's a failure to modernise first and foremost. In this social media orientated world, the approach of Black and the Panthers organisation is an obsolete one. Not knowing if an "interim" coach will be appointed full time and then stating he is carrying out the exit interviews is a bizarre way of conducting business. If the new coach is still involved elsewhere with his side in a playoff series or something, at least state he has made the decision over players but is waiting for disclosure. But no....watch and wait folks...
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Caesar
Matt Myers
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Post by Caesar on Apr 18, 2019 12:43:49 GMT
We should have had a statement release similar to what the Tampa Bay Lightning put out after their playoff loss
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2019 12:48:02 GMT
We should have had a statement release similar to what the Tampa Bay Lightning out out after their playoff loss Exactly. It gives the impression the organisation cares and are not happy they got swept. This org doesn't give that impression it's more shrug of the shoulders and try again.. they perhaps think if they apologise it shows weakness and these management are that much up themselves and arrogant they'll never do that
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Apr 18, 2019 13:32:48 GMT
We should have had a statement release similar to what the Tampa Bay Lightning out out after their playoff loss Absolutely no chance of that in the present regime
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Post by bobness on Apr 18, 2019 13:43:38 GMT
Henderson absolutely needs to be released as a player. Whether he can be the new coach is another subject entirely...
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Post by nightwish on Apr 18, 2019 14:03:02 GMT
If over 5000 people were still turning up to see the rubbish Strachen was turning out then Strachen is going to be the coach - cheap as chips, good ticket revenues = good profit.
I see nothing in this organisation that looks as though it has any aspirations other than to make money.
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Post by wgray on Apr 18, 2019 16:08:17 GMT
If over 5000 people were still turning up to see the rubbish Strachen was turning out then Strachen is going to be the coach - cheap as chips, good ticket revenues = good profit. I see nothing in this organisation that looks as though it has any aspirations other than to make money. If Strachan is coach next season I won’t be renewing my season tickets along with 3 others. Now, that is something I would never have dreamed of doing before, because this is my club, but I’ve just not enjoyed going this season. To me, if I’m feeling this way about something I love so much, then there must be a lot of people feeling the same way.
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Post by spik on Apr 18, 2019 16:51:20 GMT
If over 5000 people were still turning up to see the rubbish Strachen was turning out then Strachen is going to be the coach - cheap as chips, good ticket revenues = good profit. I see nothing in this organisation that looks as though it has any aspirations other than to make money. If Strachan is coach next season I won’t be renewing my season tickets along with 3 others. Now, that is something I would never have dreamed of doing before, because this is my club, but I’ve just not enjoyed going this season. To me, if I’m feeling this way about something I love so much, then there must be a lot of people feeling the same way. They will make sure your money is banked before you know too much about the shape of the club staff.
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Mark
Randall Weber
Experience has taught me that when it really matters the only person you can rely on is yourself.
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Post by Mark on Apr 18, 2019 18:01:18 GMT
Are people finally realising that as long as the current management and owners remain, nothing will change? The current regime have slowly chipped away at the relationship between team and fans, isolating the supporters club, no access to players unless stage managed by Moran. Resisting any change which might give the fans a voice, Black cancelling fan forums or wanting to vet questions before hand. We really are just customers, and not particularly valued as such.
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Post by wgray on Apr 18, 2019 18:46:32 GMT
If Strachan is coach next season I won’t be renewing my season tickets along with 3 others. Now, that is something I would never have dreamed of doing before, because this is my club, but I’ve just not enjoyed going this season. To me, if I’m feeling this way about something I love so much, then there must be a lot of people feeling the same way. They will make sure your money is banked before you know too much about the shape of the club staff. I don’t even know when the deadline is for the season tickets, but until the club announces something regards next season, I’m not even going to contemplate buying our four.
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Post by pantheryork on Apr 18, 2019 20:22:33 GMT
I totally agree and believe me people are starting realise the same. A group of 7 of us used to have season tickets, that was down to 2, two years ago. Last season 0. Just reading on Facebook many people aren't renewing season tickets instead picking and choosing games. Up until last season I never missed a home game since I was 15 years old. Last season I only went to a handful of games. Its such a shame but I can't see anything changing that in the near future. The least they could do is issue a statement at the end of the season to say it wasn't acceptable and what they plan to do to rectify it. But we just get total silence. I'm the same. Started watching in 96. Had season tickets on/off (due to work) until 2015. Travelled to Rouen and Amiens. 2014 managed to travel to all games home/away other than the giants fixtures. Since 2015 the number of games I go to has gradually decreased to 0 this year. From what I read, I can't be alone. Don't the club track loyalty? Do they not see regular fans not returning? Do they know this is happening every where?
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Post by spik on Apr 18, 2019 21:39:23 GMT
I totally agree and believe me people are starting realise the same. A group of 7 of us used to have season tickets, that was down to 2, two years ago. Last season 0. Just reading on Facebook many people aren't renewing season tickets instead picking and choosing games. Up until last season I never missed a home game since I was 15 years old. Last season I only went to a handful of games. Its such a shame but I can't see anything changing that in the near future. The least they could do is issue a statement at the end of the season to say it wasn't acceptable and what they plan to do to rectify it. But we just get total silence. I'm the same. Started watching in 96. Had season tickets on/off (due to work) until 2015. Travelled to Rouen and Amiens. 2014 managed to travel to all games home/away other than the giants fixtures. Since 2015 the number of games I go to has gradually decreased to 0 this year. From what I read, I can't be alone. Don't the club track loyalty? Do they not see regular fans not returning? Do they know this is happening every where? It's sad also to see supporters who don't pen much on here (but probably read) who think the same. So many are not happy with this and have the same thoughts. Affected by it so much that they are staying away after so long a time.
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iginla
Chick Zamick
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Post by iginla on Apr 19, 2019 0:02:10 GMT
When was the last time we actually heard ANYTHING from Mr Black ? I’m struggling to recall many if any interviews or written words from him since the last fan forum a couple of years ago.
Surely they must realise that fans are very unhappy yet it’s just a big fat nothing from Black. When you look at Panthers and even Steelers lately,they have both made a real mess of running their respective hockey teams. Who would have thought (assuming Panthers get a new coach) that between them the two clubs will have had SEVEN coaches inside the last year !
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Discoray
Robert Lachowicz
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Post by Discoray on Apr 19, 2019 1:12:36 GMT
When was the last time we actually heard ANYTHING from Mr Black ? I’m struggling to recall many if any interviews or written words from him since the last fan forum a couple of years ago. Surely they must realise that fans are very unhappy yet it’s just a big fat nothing from Black. No reason to while the crowds & money continues to come in.
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Post by spik on Apr 19, 2019 6:14:36 GMT
When was the last time we actually heard ANYTHING from Mr Black ? I’m struggling to recall many if any interviews or written words from him since the last fan forum a couple of years ago. Surely they must realise that fans are very unhappy yet it’s just a big fat nothing from Black. No reason to while the crowds & money continues to come in. On top of that they can avoid reply to a forum/social media whilst other areas of concern are not there. No discerning literature in the media, protesting marches catching the eye of the TV cameras. They have the happy clappers and propaganda machine to step upon the complaining (what they see as few) people and beckon in the new followers to the faith.
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