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Post by PantherB on Mar 30, 2019 22:52:20 GMT
Enjoyed the game despite the result. Saw plenty of fight and determination from the guys tonight. But Munson.. wow.
Munson was outstanding, some incredible saves. I thought Tetlow and Hazeldine were very good tonight too, for a kid who hasn't iced for us much at all and only just lost his cage.. Hazeldine oozes confidence, he looks like he's got a lot of potential.
I thought we defended very well at times, but seemed to get caught out by Guildford's speed quite often and a guy always driving the net.
Guptill's fight is just about the only memory I have of him over the past month or two, he's been poor. Even more selfish than earlier in the season and couldn't hit a barn door. His choice to fight at that point in the game was dumb. Likely to get suspended for it and I don't particularly see why he had an issue with Baldwin.
Betteridge's hit wasn't good, I'd expect him to sit a couple games for it. Easy boarding call, came in very hot and plastered the Flames player straight into the boards. Thankfully the Flames player wasn't injured.
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Post by ted logan on Mar 30, 2019 23:01:31 GMT
Why is he banned? It was a game penalty. Anyone who receives an instigator penalty within the final 2 minutes gets an automatic game suspension. Instigator rule(s) just get better and better if that’s the case. How was Guptill adjudged to be so, I didn’t see what started it. |
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Post by PantherB on Mar 30, 2019 23:08:48 GMT
Anyone who receives an instigator penalty within the final 2 minutes gets an automatic game suspension. Instigator rule(s) just get better and better if that’s the case. How was Guptill adjudged to be so, I didn’t see what started it. I didn't see how it started either, strange of Guptill to go for a guy like Baldwin though. "EIHL Procedure: The instigator of an altercation in the final two (2) minutes of regulation time or any time in overtime, shall be assessed an Instigator minor penalty, a major for fighting, a game misconduct (2 Minor +5 Major + 20 Game Misconduct) and also an automatic minimum one-game suspension." |
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Post by Joe on Mar 30, 2019 23:21:25 GMT
Instigator rule(s) just get better and better if that’s the case. How was Guptill adjudged to be so, I didn’t see what started it. I didn't see how it started either, strange of Guptill to go for a guy like Baldwin though. "EIHL Procedure: The instigator of an altercation in the final two (2) minutes of regulation time or any time in overtime, shall be assessed an Instigator minor penalty, a major for fighting, a game misconduct (2 Minor +5 Major + 20 Game Misconduct) and also an automatic minimum one-game suspension." I think Baldwin said something to him because they passed one another and Guptill turned around and pretty much no choiced him |
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Post by Shaggy on Mar 30, 2019 23:31:46 GMT
Instigator rule(s) just get better and better if that’s the case. How was Guptill adjudged to be so, I didn’t see what started it. I didn't see how it started either, strange of Guptill to go for a guy like Baldwin though. I didn't see it either, but a couple of friends did... they said that Baldwin saw Guptill was off-balance or something and kneed him. Ah - so it was automatic upgrade to 5+G and a one-game suspension. Damn. |
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Post by ted logan on Mar 30, 2019 23:44:13 GMT
I didn't see how it started either, strange of Guptill to go for a guy like Baldwin though. I didn't see it either, but a couple of friends did... they said that Baldwin saw Guptill was off-balance or something and kneed him. Ah - so it was automatic upgrade to 5+G and a one-game suspension. Damn. That’s why the instigator is a joke. If Baldwin has kneed Guptill then surely he’s instigated the situation? Are there any grounds to appeal? |
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Post by PantherG on Mar 31, 2019 1:32:50 GMT
I didn't see it either, but a couple of friends did... they said that Baldwin saw Guptill was off-balance or something and kneed him. Ah - so it was automatic upgrade to 5+G and a one-game suspension. Damn. That’s why the instigator is a joke. If Baldwin has kneed Guptill then surely he’s instigated the situation? Are there any grounds to appeal? Not unless he gets a nine game ban, nothing can be appealed that’s 8 games or less. |
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Post by Joe on Mar 31, 2019 7:57:44 GMT
I didn't see it either, but a couple of friends did... they said that Baldwin saw Guptill was off-balance or something and kneed him. Ah - so it was automatic upgrade to 5+G and a one-game suspension. Damn. That’s why the instigator is a joke. If Baldwin has kneed Guptill then surely he’s instigated the situation? Are there any grounds to appeal? not on a 1 game no |
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Post by John Casey on Mar 31, 2019 8:45:22 GMT
Could we be better off if Guptil isn't playing
Bit selfish, his passes aren't great, doesn't seem to fussed defending.
Could we have Kelsall in the line up
Was impressed with what I saw from Hazeldine.
TBH, it was a strange game
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Post by ggggranville on Mar 31, 2019 11:07:12 GMT
It seems I watched a different game from most. Can this team manage to play any worse? Totally out played, out thought, out muscled and out coached. We do not seem to be able to buy a face off win. You watch the Flames pass their way up the ice utilising two fast wide men keeping to the outside. They tore through our defence as if they wasn’t there. They looked dangerous every time they went forward. Their players all look as if they are buying into their coaches instructions. You then look at the panthers dump and laboured chase. It really isn’t good enough. Where is our spark, our energy and collective effort? Sadly I don’t seem to be seeing it. The number of times we needlessly gave the puck away. At the start of the season after watching the first few games I felt that at long last we may, just may have a team of quality that could challenge the ‘ big boys’ Devils and Giants. Sadly it wasn’t to be as gifted players became average at best. The life blood seemed to have been sucked out of them. What has caused this heaven only knows. Back to the game the Flames totally bossed it from the off. Plus points ? Munson was first class -again. Loved Hazledines(SP) energy and commitment. Certainly one for the future. The rest with the odd exception were poor. Thankfully the’NewEra’ is coming to an end.
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Post by bobness on Mar 31, 2019 11:43:40 GMT
Enjoyed the game despite the result. Saw plenty of fight and determination from the guys tonight. But Munson.. wow. Munson was outstanding, some incredible saves. I thought Tetlow and Hazeldine were very good tonight too, for a kid who hasn't iced for us much at all and only just lost his cage.. Hazeldine oozes confidence, he looks like he's got a lot of potential. I thought we defended very well at times, but seemed to get caught out by Guildford's speed quite often and a guy always driving the net. Guptill's fight is just about the only memory I have of him over the past month or two, he's been poor. Even more selfish than earlier in the season and couldn't hit a barn door. His choice to fight at that point in the game was dumb. Likely to get suspended for it and I don't particularly see why he had an issue with Baldwin. Betteridge's hit wasn't good, I'd expect him to sit a couple games for it. Easy boarding call, came in very hot and plastered the Flames player straight into the boards. Thankfully the Flames player wasn't injured. Re Guptill, playing on a line with Lacho and Betteridge is different from one with Hurtubise and Rheault. Betteridge only got a 2+ 10, I’d be surprised if that got him a ban, but it’s certainly not unthinkable the way DOPS are. |
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Post by iginla on Mar 31, 2019 12:56:56 GMT
It seems I watched a different game from most. Can this team manage to play any worse? Totally out played, out thought, out muscled and out coached. We do not seem to be able to buy a face off win. You watch the Flames pass their way up the ice utilising two fast wide men keeping to the outside. They tore through our defence as if they wasn’t there. They looked dangerous every time they went forward. Their players all look as if they are buying into their coaches instructions. You then look at the panthers dump and laboured chase. It really isn’t good enough. Where is our spark, our energy and collective effort? Sadly I don’t seem to be seeing it. The number of times we needlessly gave the puck away. At the start of the season after watching the first few games I felt that at long last we may, just may have a team of quality that could challenge the ‘ big boys’ Devils and Giants. Sadly it wasn’t to be as gifted players became average at best. The life blood seemed to have been sucked out of them. What has caused this heaven only knows. Back to the game the Flames totally bossed it from the off. Plus points ? Munson was first class -again. Loved Hazledines(SP) energy and commitment. Certainly one for the future. The rest with the odd exception were poor. Thankfully the’NewEra’ is coming to an end. You forgot to add,they got very heavily outshot too....by two to one. Shocking for a home team ! 🙄 |
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Post by bobness on Mar 31, 2019 14:25:10 GMT
We do not seem to be able to buy a face off win. Bolduc 3 for 15 last night. Ferguson 13 for 17. |
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Post by kievthegreat on Mar 31, 2019 14:36:26 GMT
It was a weird one. We actually created some quality chances from our limited shots, but just couldn't take them. However in reality, we shouldn't have been close to them. Munson made the game exciting because he stopped Guildford from running up the score (plus some poor finishing when Guildford did have him beaten). It could have ended up 4-5 or anything in between, but be under no illusions, Guildford were by far the better team.
Thing for me is how Guildford could commit more men forward, getting those odd-man rushs almost at will yet always being back in time to prevent Panthers doing the same. The extra speed and effort put in made it look like there was an extra man in a Flames jersey. Only thing I'd say about Guildford was they made a few very sloppy plays trying to transition out of their zone and few very bad giveaways, but part of that is because they are looking for longer passes to try and get their pacey wingers into play which was keeping us on the back foot consistently. The team I least wanted in the QF (along with Sheffield) so there's that positive to take from last night.
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Post by iginla on Mar 31, 2019 18:29:28 GMT
It was a weird one. We actually created some quality chances from our limited shots, but just couldn't take them. However in reality, we shouldn't have been close to them. Munson made the game exciting because he stopped Guildford from running up the score (plus some poor finishing when Guildford did have him beaten). It could have ended up 4-5 or anything in between, but be under no illusions, Guildford were by far the better team. Thing for me is how Guildford could commit more men forward, getting those odd-man rushs almost at will yet always being back in time to prevent Panthers doing the same. The extra speed and effort put in made it look like there was an extra man in a Flames jersey. Only thing I'd say about Guildford was they made a few very sloppy plays trying to transition out of their zone and few very bad giveaways, but part of that is because they are looking for longer passes to try and get their pacey wingers into play which was keeping us on the back foot consistently. The team I least wanted in the QF (along with Sheffield) so there's that positive to take from last night. Guess that’s what you get when you sign a team of big slow cart horses and play against a team of smaller racehorses. Said it back in August when people were fawning all over our “BIG” team,especially the D. Can they do it on big ice ? Errrr....nope ! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 19:25:57 GMT
You do realise if we sign a smaller quick team next year .. they will her bullied all over the ice and the league will suddenly be tougher again lol
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Post by Mark on Mar 31, 2019 19:31:31 GMT
A sad endightment of how people’s expectations have fallen when they think being shut out at home is a ‘great effort.’
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Post by iginla on Mar 31, 2019 19:57:23 GMT
A sad endightment of how people’s expectations have fallen when they think being shut out at home is a ‘great effort.’ Indeed. Didn’t even score,got outshot 21 - 40 and were saved from a thumping by Munson. Yet somehow it’s great.....jeez ! 🙄🙄 |
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Post by iginla on Mar 31, 2019 19:59:56 GMT
You do realise if we sign a smaller quick team next year .. they will her bullied all over the ice and the league will suddenly be tougher again lol Don’t talk daft Pidge. You should sign a mixture,Cherno was a clown and got it badly wrong,especially the D. We had the blueprint in 12/13 and we’ve never signed it since. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 20:07:58 GMT
I'm not convinced they ll get the balance right. It will be one or the other
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Post by iginla on Mar 31, 2019 20:10:56 GMT
I'm not convinced they ll get the balance right. It will be one or the other Haha neither am i mate. They’ll cockerel it up again like they always do. 🤣 |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 20:12:38 GMT
Yup. You can see Steelers turning their fortunes around but not Panthers they carry on like nothing is wrong
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Post by mmmbop on Mar 31, 2019 20:51:38 GMT
We will turn it round next year, dont know why but I have a feeling.
And I'm from a happy clapper but i sense goodness
And yes im basing this on nothing
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Post by bobness on Apr 1, 2019 8:07:33 GMT
We will turn it round next year, dont know why but I have a feeling. And I'm from a happy clapper but i sense goodness And yes im basing this on nothing I hope you're right. |
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Post by bobness on Apr 1, 2019 16:06:57 GMT
Just had a quick look through the highlights.
Pither didn't half leave his knee in in the moments before the ENG, but whether it was major worthy I'm not sure.
Goodness knows what Guptill was thinking, they were miles apart and he made a beeline for Baldwin.
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