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Post by sheltz78 on Feb 18, 2019 15:41:05 GMT
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Olsen Hughes Guptill Perlini Betteridge Henderson Stewart Honestly think we need a clear out in imports and brits because the brits are too comfortable here. Unfortunately have guys on uni deals so no choice in them really.
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Post by bobness on Feb 18, 2019 16:38:42 GMT
Panthers would certainly lack goals without him but "Carrying them on his back"? Kane at Chicago is doing that, 87 points to the next best 58 (then 55), half as many again. But 51 to 41 and 40? I'm not high on Kovacs at all, but Hurtubise grafts and does a lot of things that don't get the recognition they deserve. in my opinion if Guptill doesn’t turn up then his line doesn’t produce anything offensively, Hurtubise may contribute in other areas but he’s not doing what he was brought in to do and if all he’s doing is what is expected of a 3rd/4th liner then there are better out there. I'd be very happy to get 50 points out of a third/fourth liner...
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Post by pantherlee on Feb 18, 2019 17:04:35 GMT
Couldn’t be bothered to do the brits. Pretty obvious though Well you were bothered to do Lee and Gospel? Lol Got bored as I got to the end of the forwards lol
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Post by PantherB on Feb 18, 2019 17:14:20 GMT
Keep Olsen Hughes Guptill Perlini Betteridge Henderson Stewart Honestly think we need a clear out in imports and brits because the brits are too comfortable here. Unfortunately have guys on uni deals so no choice in them really. No Rissling? Arguably one of our better defenceman with a physical side like no other on the team and toughness when required.
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Post by bobness on Feb 18, 2019 17:44:55 GMT
Keep Olsen Hughes Guptill Perlini Betteridge Henderson Stewart Honestly think we need a clear out in imports and brits because the brits are too comfortable here. Unfortunately have guys on uni deals so no choice in them really. No Rissling? Arguably one of our better defenceman with a physical side like no other on the team and toughness when required. Don't forget Panthers have only got 90% of the available work out of him, due to him getting banned.
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Post by jdizpt8 on Feb 18, 2019 17:49:53 GMT
G - Munson as back up, get in a Galbraith esc goalie as number 1 G - Gospel 2-way
D - Olsen is of high quality and can man the PP D - Hughes sign of a good D man is that they’re never mentioned D - Rissling plays tough, he can be the enforcer if he wants the role D - Tetlow continue to build him to become a tough no nonsense D
F - Stewart bring in linemates who play at his level and they’d excel F - Guptil scores a lot even if he’s lazy F - Pither with the right guys along side him and cut the cheap pens F - Perlini we’ve seen what he can do, get that form back F - Farmer put with a Cam type and let him be an arse F - Ollie absolute work horse
Coach - Henderson, see what he can do.
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Post by PantherB on Feb 18, 2019 19:55:54 GMT
No Rissling? Arguably one of our better defenceman with a physical side like no other on the team and toughness when required. Don't forget Panthers have only got 90% of the available work out of him, due to him getting banned. Can't argue with that at all and it's definitely a consideration the club would have to make but that suspension was pretty harsh, and with recent checking to the head suspensions it's a bit more questionable. I wouldn't want Rissling to change his playing style if he was to return.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Feb 18, 2019 20:03:23 GMT
While I wouldnt be against a complete clear out based on this seasons performances, I fear that if there isn't some continuity then the club could further weaken it's identity with the fans. So I'd keep Olsen, Perlini, Betteridge,Munson, Stewart, Guptill, and Henderson as player coach. not sure about Lee, because are there better gb dmen out there ?
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Feb 18, 2019 20:10:20 GMT
G - Munson as back up, get in a Galbraith esc goalie as number 1 G - Gospel 2-way D - Olsen is of high quality and can man the PP D - Hughes sign of a good D man is that they’re never mentioned D - Rissling plays tough, he can be the enforcer if he wants the role D - Tetlow continue to build him to become a tough no nonsense D F - Stewart bring in linemates who play at his level and they’d excel F - Guptil scores a lot even if he’s lazy F - Pither with the right guys along side him and cut the cheap pens F - Perlini we’ve seen what he can do, get that form back F - Farmer put with a Cam type and let him be an hairy bum F - Ollie absolute work horse Coach - Henderson, see what he can do. Gospel on a two way? Who with? Saga?
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Post by jdizpt8 on Feb 18, 2019 20:32:06 GMT
G - Munson as back up, get in a Galbraith esc goalie as number 1 G - Gospel 2-way D - Olsen is of high quality and can man the PP D - Hughes sign of a good D man is that they’re never mentioned D - Rissling plays tough, he can be the enforcer if he wants the role D - Tetlow continue to build him to become a tough no nonsense D F - Stewart bring in linemates who play at his level and they’d excel F - Guptil scores a lot even if he’s lazy F - Pither with the right guys along side him and cut the cheap pens F - Perlini we’ve seen what he can do, get that form back F - Farmer put with a Cam type and let him be an hairy bum F - Ollie absolute work horse Coach - Henderson, see what he can do. Gospel on a two way? Who with? Saga? Having him on a 2 way means we keep him. Makes sense
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Post by wgray on Feb 18, 2019 21:04:29 GMT
If anything is going to change and we are serious then we have to ignore factors such as university deals and passports. I’ve made decisions solely based on performances this season.
Garnett - KEEP, but suspect he will retire. Munson - KEEP, if the price is right. Gospel - KEEP, needs to be given game time in cup and at home against lesser teams.
Olsen - KEEP, two-way defender. Hughes - KEEP, two-way defender. Rissling - KEEP, two-way defender, need to utilise his offensive skills more. Tetlow - KEEP, 6th dman, constantly improving, much more composed now, extraordinary size and reach, still learning and maturing but looking to the future he will be a big asset. Billingsley - RELEASE, disappointing season, expected him to provide more offence. Lepine - RELEASE, a shadow of the player I remember I’m afraid. Certainly not leading out on the ice. Lee - RELEASE, I honestly think he’s been better this year defensively but I’d personally give Tetlow his ice time and go with 5 import D.
Betteridge - KEEP, a player who has come on leaps and bounds this season. Stewart - KEEP, still getting match fit, his eye for a pass is second to none. Henderson - KEEP, plays the game the right way, blocks everything, grinder. Perlini - KEEP, disappointing season but I don’t think the style we have played this season has helped him. Hurtubise - KEEP, works hard, appears to have lost confidence compared to start of season when he was rocketing them in. Work rate saves him. Bolduc - KEEP, I like his passion and edge, works well with Ollie on 4th line and PK, needs to bring more end product though. Guptill - KEEP, his body language is poor and at times he is very selfish but he is supremely talented. However, it is vital that we recruit the players to compliment him, 2 clones of Brandon Benedict would be nice. Lacho - RELEASE, offers virtually nothing. Richard - RELEASE, a player I was undecided about as he works hard but I feel we need more end product. Kovacs - RELEASE, he’s terrific around the boards coming out of the corners but he’s struggled to produce and his work rate is non existent at times. Rheault - RELEASE, he’s had a tough season and I still don’t think he’s fully fit but he’s another that’s struggled. Pither - RELEASE, a very disappointing season, I honestly thought in the Summer he’d be up at the top of the point scoring chart but he looks lost, as though he’s been figured out. Plus he gives away far too many penalties. Farmer - RELEASE, I could take some flak for this but I think he’s had a poor season. Wasteful offensively, doesn’t bring the edge and agitation anymore, feel he can be upgraded on.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Feb 18, 2019 23:49:32 GMT
Gospel on a two way? Who with? Saga? Having him on a 2 way means we keep him. Makes sense He’s knocking on a bit now for that. Sign a youngster
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Post by BigLad on Feb 19, 2019 13:30:34 GMT
Having him on a 2 way means we keep him. Makes sense He’s knocking on a bit now for that. Sign a youngster He's 24...
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Feb 19, 2019 13:45:36 GMT
He’s knocking on a bit now for that. Sign a youngster He's 24... Jackson Whistle is 23 and he’s never going to be a Jackson Whistle.
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Post by spik on Feb 19, 2019 14:51:31 GMT
Assuming no Panther in the All Stat team by seasons end....who's going to take our honourable awards by March/April? Player of the year, consistent etc...someone's going to have to fill these awards night shannanigins. (Whatever the spelling) ......
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Post by Carnell on Feb 19, 2019 15:35:11 GMT
who's going to take our honourable awards by March/April? Player of the year, consistent etc...someone's going to have to fill these awards night shannanigins. (Whatever the spelling) ...... Most Consistent Player of the Season...Ollie Most Entertaining Player...Rissling or Hughes for some of their big hits The Gary Rippingale Trophy (Team Spirit)...Ollie British Player of the Year...Ollie Fans Player of the Year...Ollie, Olsen or Guptill Most Valuable Player...Ollie, Olsen or Guptill
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Post by Yotes on Feb 19, 2019 15:47:17 GMT
who's going to take our honourable awards by March/April? Player of the year, consistent etc...someone's going to have to fill these awards night shannanigins. (Whatever the spelling) ...... Most Consistent Player of the Season...Ollie Most Entertaining Player...Rissling or Hughes for some of their big hits The Gary Rippingale Trophy (Team Spirit)...Ollie British Player of the Year...Ollie Fans Player of the Year...Ollie, Olsen or Guptill Most Valuable Player...Ollie, Olsen or Guptill Ollie for all of them, except MVP Guptill, and Most Entertaining will have to be scrapped for the year, maybe Paws.
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Post by bobness on Feb 19, 2019 17:51:25 GMT
Ollie for all of them, except MVP Guptill, and Most Entertaining will have to be scrapped for the year, maybe Paws. Hughes gets most consistent, otherwise I agree 101%. Paws gets most entertaining for the look he gave the guys in the tunnel when his drum broke...
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Post by BigLad on Feb 19, 2019 19:46:30 GMT
MVP Olsen
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Post by iginla on Feb 19, 2019 20:30:10 GMT
Why ? He’s decent but he’s only got 19 points,he’s 97th in the league scoring charts,he doesn’t really hit much and as far as i recall hasn’t had a fight.
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Post by bobness on Feb 20, 2019 12:08:21 GMT
Why ? He’s decent but he’s only got 19 points,he’s 97th in the league scoring charts,he doesn’t really hit much and as far as i recall hasn’t had a fight. Not often we agree, Iggy, but bang on here. Olsen is no more MVP than Lacho. For all his incredible slapshot hype, he's scored 3 goals with one this year. What I do find amazing is that Olsen is 4+5 on the PP this year. The entire rest of the D men together are a combined 0+4. You are correct, no fighting penalties, and the only roughing penalty he's taken was a 2+2 in game 1 of the season. He's managed 4 minors and a 5+G for cross checking though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 12:18:52 GMT
Why ? He’s decent but he’s only got 19 points,he’s 97th in the league scoring charts,he doesn’t really hit much and as far as i recall hasn’t had a fight. Not often we agree, Iggy, but bang on here. Olsen is no more MVP than Lacho. What a ridiculous statement!
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Post by iginla on Feb 20, 2019 12:27:34 GMT
Not often we agree, Iggy, but bang on here. Olsen is no more MVP than Lacho. What a ridiculous statement! It’s not Pidge. Yes he’s better than Lacho but as Panthers “supposed” premier offensive Dman and considering his CV and size Olsen has been very disappointing indeed. His points output is extremely poor,in fact just to put it in perspective against other Dmen Olsen has got one less point than Mark Richardson and only one more point than even Ryan Martinelli.😳 That is nowhere near MVP material !
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 12:48:52 GMT
What a ridiculous statement! It’s not Pidge. Yes he’s better than Lacho but as Panthers “supposed” premier offensive Dman and considering his CV and size Olsen has been very disappointing indeed. His points output is extremely poor,in fact just to put it in perspective against other Dmen Olsen has got one less point than Mark Richardson and only one more point than even Ryan Martinelli.😳 That is nowhere near MVP material ! Call me old fashioned but isn't a defenceman's job to defend? For me Olsen has been one of the few bright spots (along with Betteridge, Hughes & Rissling) in an otherwise disappointing (putting it mildly) season.
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Post by bobness on Feb 20, 2019 13:30:59 GMT
It’s not Pidge. Yes he’s better than Lacho but as Panthers “supposed” premier offensive Dman and considering his CV and size Olsen has been very disappointing indeed. His points output is extremely poor,in fact just to put it in perspective against other Dmen Olsen has got one less point than Mark Richardson and only one more point than even Ryan Martinelli.😳 That is nowhere near MVP material ! Call me old fashioned but isn't a defenceman's job to defend? For me Olsen has been one of the few bright spots (along with Betteridge, Hughes & Rissling) in an otherwise disappointing (putting it mildly) season. That's the beauty of opinion. Personally, I've no strong opinion, other than he's no stand out. Widely touted (but not by the club itself, I don't think?) as the stud D man, and PP quarterback, and even allowing for an iffy PP (28/178 so far in the league) 4+5 isn't a great return (although he has been on ice for a further 9 of Panthers 28 PPGs this season, (so on ice for 18/28, 64%) although this itself suggests he's not the guy making the killer pass...), and he's not actually that great at defending, with more minuses to his name than Rissling, Billingsley and Hughes, and the same as the much maligned in these parts Gui Lepine. Only Lee of the full time D has more. I know we haven't got ice time stats, which would help, but he's "no firm opinion" for me. Rissling will also divide opinion as he plays close to the edge and that gets him in trouble occasionally. 101% with you for Ollie and Hughes, though. And the somewhat below par season in general...
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