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Post by jk on Jan 26, 2019 23:22:53 GMT
And your " If you care to look" was ? I see what’s happened here - I genuinely meant if you wanted to have a look, as that’s where I got the info from. Apologies on that front No worries.
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Post by bobness on Jan 26, 2019 23:24:51 GMT
See above, he didn’t get an instigator.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 23:28:18 GMT
This is the problem with the modern day fan.. player injured means it must have been a bad hit !! Learn the rules !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 23:32:24 GMT
Imagine Mosey skating into mid ice if Scott Stevens was on the blue line , evan would be retirements planning!! Get well soon but keep your head up next time mate
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Post by jk on Jan 26, 2019 23:40:17 GMT
This is the problem with the modern day fan.. player injured means it must have been a bad hit !! Learn the rules ! No, what people see on the video and how they interpret it is all subjective. Some Devils fans will say it was a bad hit, some Panthers fans will say it was a clean hit and visa versa. Pretty much like the hit Tyson Marsh put on Brad Moran . Having watched the two there isn't much difference in the hit. Both hits could have been avoided but Marsh/Moran chose to follow through. The Panthers fans were screaming for Marsh to be dealt with yet because the aggressor is a Panthers player you tell people they should learn the rules. Just proves that our views are tainted by rose tinted specs.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 26, 2019 23:49:39 GMT
This is the problem with the modern day fan.. player injured means it must have been a bad hit !! Learn the rules ! No, what people see on the video and how they interpret it is all subjective. Some Devils fans will say it was a bad hit, some Panthers fans will say it was a clean hit and visa versa. Pretty much like the hit Tyson Marsh put on Brad Moran . Having watched the two there isn't much difference in the hit. Both hits could have been avoided but Marsh/Moran chose to follow through. The Panthers fans were screaming for Marsh to be dealt with yet because the aggressor is a Panthers player you tell people they should learn the rules. Just proves that our views are tainted by rose tinted specs. Very much rose tinted but the hit Jansen put on Marsh was the best of the bunch.
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Post by Dan on Jan 26, 2019 23:53:52 GMT
This is the problem with the modern day fan.. player injured means it must have been a bad hit !! Learn the rules ! I don’t post often here any more, but I see you’ve still not learned to discuss things like an adult Pidge? There’s no need to be so aggressive. I’ve seen many different videos of the hit. Sorry to say, it’s a headshot. He comes in from a borderline-blindside angle and primary contact appears to be the head. Hitting the ice wouldn’t have helped, but the damage was done by then. He’ll be suspended, and rightly so.
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Post by jk on Jan 26, 2019 23:57:10 GMT
No, what people see on the video and how they interpret it is all subjective. Some Devils fans will say it was a bad hit, some Panthers fans will say it was a clean hit and visa versa. Pretty much like the hit Tyson Marsh put on Brad Moran . Having watched the two there isn't much difference in the hit. Both hits could have been avoided but Marsh/Moran chose to follow through. The Panthers fans were screaming for Marsh to be dealt with yet because the aggressor is a Panthers player you tell people they should learn the rules. Just proves that our views are tainted by rose tinted specs. Very much rose tinted but the hit Jansen put on Marsh was the best of the bunch. I think we enjoy a different kind of game.
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Post by Dan on Jan 26, 2019 23:58:44 GMT
Imagine Mosey skating into mid ice if Scott Stevens was on the blue line , evan would be retirements planning!! Get well soon but keep your head up next time mate You talk about others needing to know the rules... but there’s no mention in the rule book about ‘keeping the head up’. It clearly helps you keep your head on your shoulders but it doesn’t give a defenseman Carte Blanche to destroy you and isn’t a defence for a bad hit. Furthermore, Scott Stevens would never play nowadays. He’d be constantly suspended if he acted the same way because he was basically a predator who constantly targeted the head and must have caused dozens of life affecting concussions. The rules and the game have changed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 0:01:18 GMT
Imagine Mosey skating into mid ice if Scott Stevens was on the blue line , evan would be retirements planning!! Get well soon but keep your head up next time mate You talk about others needing to know the rules... but there’s no mention in the rule book about ‘keeping the head up’. It clearly helps you keep your head on your shoulders but it doesn’t give a defenseman Carte Blanche to destroy you and isn’t a defence for a bad hit. Furthermore, Scott Stevens would never play nowadays. He’d be constantly suspended if he acted the same way because he was basically a predator who constantly targeted the head and must have caused dozens of life affecting concussions. The rules and the game have changed. If he had his head up we wouldn't be having this conversation
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Post by Dan on Jan 27, 2019 0:03:18 GMT
You talk about others needing to know the rules... but there’s no mention in the rule book about ‘keeping the head up’. It clearly helps you keep your head on your shoulders but it doesn’t give a defenseman Carte Blanche to destroy you and isn’t a defence for a bad hit. Furthermore, Scott Stevens would never play nowadays. He’d be constantly suspended if he acted the same way because he was basically a predator who constantly targeted the head and must have caused dozens of life affecting concussions. The rules and the game have changed. If he had his head up we wouldn't be having this conversation I don’t think it’s as much a case of him keeping his head up but more a case of not looking back. He put himself in a vulnerable position, but that doesn’t really change a thing. The hit shouldn’t be made.
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Post by Dan on Jan 27, 2019 0:06:18 GMT
What a game of hockey. Why can’t it be like that every week For all the relatively new fans.....that 3rd period action was just like what we used to watch regularly nearly every game a few years ago. I’m sure if we asked you a few years back you wouldn’t have said that iginla 🥳
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 0:07:42 GMT
If he had his head up we wouldn't be having this conversation I don’t think it’s as much a case of him keeping his head up but more a case of not looking back. He put himself in a vulnerable position, but that doesn’t really change a thing. The hit shouldn’t be made. The hit shouldn't be made? He was 3 foot away from Garnett in centre !! It was a potentially a goal scoring situation
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Post by cjones on Jan 27, 2019 0:21:42 GMT
Its shoulder to shoulder - Mosey is moving at pace and looking at his skates, generally not a good idea when you're cutting towards the middle of the ice... Just got home and watched the video of the hit. Rissling has his arms by his side, his feet do not leave the ice. Genuinely find the outcry from South Wales a bit OTT. If bans are going to get handed out for open ice hits like that, then we may as well go full on zero contact. Have you seen the close up slow mo that was Tweeted? [a href=" [/a] Shoulder to the chin - knocker his head back and helmet up - Mosey is out cold before he hits the ice
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Post by ted logan on Jan 27, 2019 0:22:14 GMT
I don’t think it’s as much a case of him keeping his head up but more a case of not looking back. He put himself in a vulnerable position, but that doesn’t really change a thing. The hit shouldn’t be made. The hit shouldn't be made? He was 3 foot away from Garnett in centre !! It was a potentially a goal scoring situation Exactly. What’s Rissling supposed to do? Just let Mosey skate in on goal and get a shot away? If a defender didn’t make the hit in that situation, he might as well pack up playing.
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Post by wgray on Jan 27, 2019 0:23:37 GMT
WHAT A GAME!
Sometimes you have to forget everything else that has gone before and just enjoy the moment.
Firstly, I’ll get the Rissling hit out the way, it is unlucky for all parties. Before the puck had even been released to Mosey you could see what was going to happen, there was no intention to target the head but the size difference ultimately guaranteed it, Mosey looked concussed and I expect there will be a ban, it’s just unlucky all around but I really hope Evan has a quick recovery. I am glad though that we saw some emotion after this though, Rissling gave Ulmer pasting, the supposed GOAT (where was he tonight?) spat his dummy and was lucky not to get 3rd man in, it would really have completed the night if there was a line brawl but it wasn’t to be.
The team battled all night, every player had a great game. Lacho was like a rash on Cardiff’s defence. I thought that Rheault, Guptill and Hurtubise had a terrific game, they work really well together, work and battle hard,what a goal from Jon, he really deserved that and enjoyed it. I have given Pither a lot of stick lately because we know what he can bring, but that goal tonight was terrific and that’s what we need from him, it was an absolute snipe.
Every line brought something tonight and contributed to the result, but I think we finally got to see what Stewart can bring. I think the speed and transitional play of Farms and Perlini compliment him, some of Stewart’s feeds to the front of the net were creative and begging to be tapped in, they were lucky not to combine for a goal.
What a night, it’s night like these that remind me why I love hockey, the noise was spine tingling at times, great stuff!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 0:24:54 GMT
The hit shouldn't be made? He was 3 foot away from Garnett in centre !! It was a potentially a goal scoring situation Exactly. What’s Rissling supposed to do? Just let Mosey skate in on goal and get a shot away? If a defender didn’t make the hit in that situation, he might as well pack up playing. Exactly if it was in the corner I'd see the point but mosey was practically in the blue paint! I've seen this a few times tonight that he didn't need to make it ... utter garbage I really do despair tonight's game was a regular occurrence years ago and we saw what for me got me hooked on the game
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Post by cjones on Jan 27, 2019 0:27:14 GMT
This is the problem with the modern day fan.. player injured means it must have been a bad hit !! Learn the rules ! I don’t post often here any more, but I see you’ve still not learned to discuss things like an adult Pidge? There’s no need to be so aggressive. I’ve seen many different videos of the hit. Sorry to say, it’s a headshot. He comes in from a borderline-blindside angle and primary contact appears to be the head. Hitting the ice wouldn’t have helped, but the damage was done by then. He’ll be suspended, and rightly so. I agree it was a hit to the head. Not sure he’ll get a ban though as it wasn’t called on the ice; I don’t think Cardiff ask for reviews (Giants hit Mosey in the head last Saturday and Sunday!) plus we want you to be full strength next weekend!
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Post by iginla on Jan 27, 2019 0:42:28 GMT
Just got home and watched the video of the hit. Rissling has his arms by his side, his feet do not leave the ice. Genuinely find the outcry from South Wales a bit OTT. If bans are going to get handed out for open ice hits like that, then we may as well go full on zero contact. Have you seen the close up slow mo that was Tweeted? [a href=" [/a] Shoulder to the chin - knocker his head back and helmet up - Mosey is out cold before he hits the ice [/quote] That’s not a hit to the head,if it was Mosey’s head would come back towards the camera and it doesn’t. It’s a hit to the shoulder and the helmet moves forward just like yours would if you had a loose fitting helmet on and drove into a brick wall without a seatbelt on.
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Post by Higgy on Jan 27, 2019 0:44:34 GMT
End of the day some people will say hit to the head some will say it wasn't but just shows how hockey has changed that this is the main taking point of the game rather than us winning it...sad times
Personally looked like shoulder to lower neck area to me rather than the head.
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Post by Yotes on Jan 27, 2019 0:48:33 GMT
The hit shouldn't be made? He was 3 foot away from Garnett in centre !! It was a potentially a goal scoring situation Exactly. What’s Rissling supposed to do? Just let Mosey skate in on goal and get a shot away? If a defender didn’t make the hit in that situation, he might as well pack up playing. He was right to make the hit, and Mosey was fair game as he had the puck, but Rissling has the responsibility to avoid contact with Mosey's head. Height differences etc don't really matter, as I understand the rules. Whether he does that or not I dunno, the close up looks worse than the original, but we might be finding out if DOPS still exist I think. Strange that Ulmer had to stand up for it mind.
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Post by iginla on Jan 27, 2019 1:01:43 GMT
Apparently there were 4000 U tube streams watching the game tonight,that’s very good. Also excellent is Panthers asking people to give feedback on what they liked and what they didn’t like about the game package as a whole. 👍
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Post by ojlloyd on Jan 27, 2019 1:03:48 GMT
Exactly. What’s Rissling supposed to do? Just let Mosey skate in on goal and get a shot away? If a defender didn’t make the hit in that situation, he might as well pack up playing. He was right to make the hit, and Mosey was fair game as he had the puck, but Rissling has the responsibility to avoid contact with Mosey's head. Height differences etc don't really matter, as I understand the rules. Whether he does that or not I dunno, the close up looks worse than the original, but we might be finding out if DOPS still exist I think. Strange that Ulmer had to stand up for it mind. Your last point is what has infuriated me more than the hit itself. I liked Bordeleau, but I understood, to an extent, why we didn’t bring him back. But a 39 year old skill player shouldn’t be sorting these issues out. And it certainly didn’t help him in the scrap, which he lost resoundingly. Proud of him for going in for it, but a little ashamed of the other guys who didn’t even get involved despite being on the ice.
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Post by BigLad on Jan 27, 2019 2:43:56 GMT
IT'S NOT EVEN A HIT!!!!!
Rissling skates across to defend and Mosey hit him!
If that gets a ban then fudge the EIHL.
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Post by cjones on Jan 27, 2019 7:32:57 GMT
IT'S NOT EVEN A HIT!!!!! Rissling skates across to defend and Mosey hit him! If that gets a ban then fudge the EIHL. 🙈
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