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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 13:49:00 GMT
Whilst he did win the DEL, it's important to mention his side didn't finish first in either year. Indeed, with Kolner they were some 30 points off top spot and actually finished the season with a .500 record. The difference is obviously the significance of the Post Season in pretty much every other country bar the UK. Mmmm so Cherno is another Neilson. No interest and bored with the grind of the league but can get motivated for the shorter stuff. We need a coach with some fire and passion,give me an Adams,Finnerty or Richardson type any day of the week over a dull boring Cherno/Neilson ! You do realise our next coach will be a rookie.. either a player from this season or from recent years. Personally if Rich goes of his own accord (which I think he will) I'd like to see Dixon from Guilford and see what he could do with a bigger budget
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Post by Robbie Nud on Jan 7, 2019 13:56:29 GMT
Clarke?
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Post by Joe on Jan 7, 2019 14:30:30 GMT
I wonder if he signed Lepine? I think he's been shocking this season and can't believe he is on a multiyear deal and he's the captain. Will Garnett come back? Will Rich come back? What does Dan Green do? Another crazy season, filled with promise and delivered very little so far. Preseason we looked good if we played a physical way. Change that and we look average.Constant changing of lines, people out of position and no real leadership, its a shambles Making money though so NB and GM are happy No he didn’t sign Lepine. Yes he did, Gagnon wanted £200 more a week than Lepine and he’s way better on paper
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Post by iginla on Jan 7, 2019 15:11:55 GMT
No he didn’t sign Lepine. Yes he did, Gagnon wanted £200 more a week than Lepine and he’s way better on paper Maybe,but Gagnon probably didn’t want a Uni course which comes free to Panthers. They aren’t going to pay a similar guy £200 more,you know what they’re like !
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Post by iginla on Jan 7, 2019 15:13:07 GMT
No....that would be the worst choice ever.
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Post by Robbie Nud on Jan 7, 2019 15:20:35 GMT
No....that would be the worst choice ever. Irrelevant, he will be cheap and a company man. The hype would be he knows the league, the clubs and the players. The cons will be everything else - experience, contacts, yadda yadda yadda.
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Post by iginla on Jan 7, 2019 15:22:31 GMT
Mmmm so Cherno is another Neilson. No interest and bored with the grind of the league but can get motivated for the shorter stuff. We need a coach with some fire and passion,give me an Adams,Finnerty or Richardson type any day of the week over a dull boring Cherno/Neilson ! You do realise our next coach will be a rookie.. either a player from this season or from recent years. Personally if Rich goes of his own accord (which I think he will) I'd like to see Dixon from Guilford and see what he could do with a bigger budget I’d like to see what Dixon could do too,but they’d just turn him into yet another yes man. But Adams and Finnerty have both recruited some very good players and finished above Panthers too on smaller budgets and without half the trappings that Panthers coaches have had and we know they ain’t yes men. How did they both do that ? We need somebody different who is prepared to stand up to the shenanigans,put his neck on the line and rock the boat otherwise it will just be the same old same old Groundhog Day again. Can you imagine Barrasso at Panthers,he wouldn’t last a month before he said sod this crap upped and left !
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Post by iginla on Jan 7, 2019 15:26:18 GMT
No....that would be the worst choice ever. Irrelevant, he will be cheap and a company man. The hype would be he knows the league, the clubs and the players. The cons will be everything else - experience, contacts, yadda yadda yadda. That’s exactly why i said No. Because Clarkey would be the complete 100% embodiment of a Panthers company man who would tow the official line to the letter. We had quite enough of Corey and his cringeworthy.....Yes Boss ! 🙄
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Post by Yotes on Jan 7, 2019 16:03:06 GMT
Clarke is inevitable at some point.
Finnerty (no thanks) and Dixon (yes please) are both coach and GM at their clubs, Finnerty is even ownership I think, so they won't be leaving to come and be Gary's underling.
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Post by iginla on Jan 7, 2019 16:10:55 GMT
Clarke is inevitable at some point. Finnerty (no thanks) and Dixon (yes please) are both coach and GM at their clubs, Finnerty is even ownership I think, so they won't be leaving to come and be Gary's underling. No chance of Clarkey ever coaching Panthers,he’s glad to be in the real world.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 7, 2019 16:21:24 GMT
No he didn’t sign Lepine. Yes he did, Gagnon wanted £200 more a week than Lepine and he’s way better on paper Lepine was signed the middle of last season.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 16:26:22 GMT
Clarke is inevitable at some point. Finnerty (no thanks) and Dixon (yes please) are both coach and GM at their clubs, Finnerty is even ownership I think, so they won't be leaving to come and be Gary's underling. No chance of Clarkey ever coaching Panthers,he’s glad to be in the real world. Thats cheered me up 😊👍
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Post by Joe on Jan 7, 2019 16:36:24 GMT
Yes he did, Gagnon wanted £200 more a week than Lepine and he’s way better on paper Lepine was signed the middle of last season. All I know is, that someone I know had a conversation with Chernomaz and Cherno told them that Gagnon wanted to return but wanted £200 more than Lepine so it was a no brainer for him
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Post by wgray on Jan 7, 2019 17:08:51 GMT
First of all, I feel that Chernomaz made some mistakes in his recruitment. He went too far down the route of signing players with size, there didn’t seem to balance to the squad, plus I get the impression that we’re not as fit as other teams and again I think this has something to do with the size of our squad but also the types of players we have. Ultimately, I think these are the reasons why we’ve seen performances go from impressive at the start of the season, to not so now.
I recall a lot of fans had concerns over some of our recruits during the off-season, I was reserved with my concerns as I had belief that Rich would be used to coaching teams with these types of players, so I didn’t want to slag any of the signings off, but looking at it now he did get it wrong and ultimately changes have been made.
Biggs and Doty, were signings which I feel he got wrong and I also still believe that the balance of the defence is wrong. I think he should of signed a quick, agile, point scoring d-man who could lead the transition and slot onto the powerplay. I know these types of players aren’t easy to come by but someone in the mould of Fournier is really missing from our defence.
Now, I think Rich has realised he made recruitment errors, which is obviously why he has made changes. Personally, I would like to see him stay for another season, he can learn from his mistakes and recruit players suited to the long-haul season, with a better balance to the team. This season was always going to be difficult but I don’t think starting from scratch again is the answer.
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Post by Yotes on Jan 7, 2019 18:03:36 GMT
Clarke is inevitable at some point. Finnerty (no thanks) and Dixon (yes please) are both coach and GM at their clubs, Finnerty is even ownership I think, so they won't be leaving to come and be Gary's underling. No chance of Clarkey ever coaching Panthers,he’s glad to be in the real world. Stalker What's he doing?
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Post by iginla on Jan 7, 2019 18:11:36 GMT
No chance of Clarkey ever coaching Panthers,he’s glad to be in the real world. Stalker What's he doing? He works for a company which is nothing to do with ice hockey. Still doing his hockey camps though.
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Post by tootootrain on Jan 7, 2019 19:26:10 GMT
The instance by Moran and Black to keep Strachan and Green in a job, rather than allow Chernomaz to bring in his own coaching team, was hardly a good start.
Dan Green did the square root of nowt as a player and doesn't appear to be doing much more as a 'coach'. I just hope he is better in his other jobs-for-the-boys role as accommodation wallah.
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Post by allingtonskates on Jan 7, 2019 22:10:11 GMT
No he didn’t sign Lepine. Yes he did, Gagnon wanted £200 more a week than Lepine and he’s way better on paper no he didn't. or if he did it was pushed on to him. when the brits went on holiday with him lepine said he wanted to be in education again and the brits told him that we do it now and they were talking to GM and NB about him returning b4 we signed cherno. (from what I heard anyway)
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Post by allingtonskates on Jan 7, 2019 22:17:31 GMT
id give him a chance next year to act upon what he has learned this year. sign a different team ect. id happily take finnerty here. think he is a decent coach with a entertaining (more than panthers currently) style. give him a decent budget too. I cant see Dixon leaving Guildford personally although id take him too. if Gagnon was avalible next season id take him over Lepine (wont happen because Lepine is on a uni deal and captain). also if cherno is to return id like to see him bring in a new coaching team around him. from what I have heard he wasn't aloud to bring in his own coaching team and GM+NB told him to use Rick and Dan but not to sure if its true. also heard he has a exNHL netminder lined up if Garnett didn't have a great season so would be interesting to see what happens.
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Post by PantherB on Jan 7, 2019 22:19:32 GMT
Yes he did, Gagnon wanted £200 more a week than Lepine and he’s way better on paper no he didn't. or if he did it was pushed on to him. when the brits went on holiday with him lepine said he wanted to be in education again and the brits told him that we do it now and they were talking to GM and NB about him returning b4 we signed cherno. (from what I heard anyway) I think it was mostly Goodridge who sold the move to him and then passed on details to Rich etc. but I'd imagine when GM caught wind Lepine was interested he'd have made an executive decision. However, that's all rumour and speculation but the move definitely began with the Brits and Goody, possibly others on holiday with Gui and discussing it. Who made the final decision I don't know.
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Post by allingtonskates on Jan 7, 2019 22:20:37 GMT
no he didn't. or if he did it was pushed on to him. when the brits went on holiday with him lepine said he wanted to be in education again and the brits told him that we do it now and they were talking to GM and NB about him returning b4 we signed cherno. (from what I heard anyway) I think it was mostly Goodridge who sold the move to him and then passed on details to Rich etc. but I'd imagine when GM caught wind Lepine was interested he'd have made an executive decision. However, that's all rumour and speculation but the move definitely began with the Brits and Goody, possibly others on holiday with Gui and discussing it. Who made the final decision I don't know. that's what I meant by pushed on him with the news he was interested.
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Post by EMB on Jan 7, 2019 23:27:03 GMT
I think it was mostly Goodridge who sold the move to him and then passed on details to Rich etc. but I'd imagine when GM caught wind Lepine was interested he'd have made an executive decision. However, that's all rumour and speculation but the move definitely began with the Brits and Goody, possibly others on holiday with Gui and discussing it. Who made the final decision I don't know. that's what I meant by pushed on him with the news he was interested. It was Steve Lee’s stag do in the USA
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Post by iginla on Jan 7, 2019 23:39:11 GMT
that's what I meant by pushed on him with the news he was interested. It was Steve Lee’s stag do in the USA Lepine was coming the year before but it fell through right at the last minute because of some problem at Lepine’s end. He was a done deal this year before Cherno was even installed. A GM signing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 23:50:49 GMT
Has GM ever signed a import who's previously been unknown to Panthers fans?
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Post by pdusa on Jan 8, 2019 2:55:14 GMT
With regards to Rick recruiting the wrong kind of team for the EIHL you might have thought that the likes of GM, Stachan etc would have given some sort of insight to what is needed to compete in this league. Instead of just leaving him to find out the hard way.
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