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Post by nottinghamsenator on Jan 5, 2019 22:44:41 GMT
2 things we learnt tonight.. Garnett was utterly abysmal perhaps the worst I've seen him play in a Panthers jersey .. And given more game time Stewert will be head and shoulders above anything else on the ice.. but please put him with 2 line mates who can anticipate his moves and keep up with him! He looked edgy all night, no chance on the 2 on 1s but his rebound control was all over the place. Very bad shorthander to concede to going across him.
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Post by iginla on Jan 5, 2019 22:48:43 GMT
2 things we learnt tonight.. Garnett was utterly abysmal perhaps the worst I've seen him play in a Panthers jersey .. And given more game time Stewert will be head and shoulders above anything else on the ice.. but please put him with 2 line mates who can anticipate his moves and keep up with him! Three actually. Chernomaz is ice hockey’s very own Mike Basset. I reckon more a cross between John Major and Diane Abbott.......Dull and clueless ! 🙄
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 22:51:41 GMT
Stewert will be head and shoulders above anything else on the ice.. but please put him with 2 line mates who can anticipate his moves and keep up with him! Who do you suggest? Stamkos & Kucherov maybe, cos none of the drivel masquerading as Panthers players are good enough!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 22:53:06 GMT
2 things we learnt tonight.. Garnett was utterly abysmal perhaps the worst I've seen him play in a Panthers jersey .. And given more game time Stewert will be head and shoulders above anything else on the ice.. but please put him with 2 line mates who can anticipate his moves and keep up with him! He looked edgy all night, no chance on the 2 on 1s but his rebound control was all over the place. Very bad shorthander to concede to going across him. The shorthander was down to Stewart giving the puck away!
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Post by PantherB on Jan 5, 2019 22:58:05 GMT
It definitely wasn't a good game for Garnett, he seemed a bit lost but I really do not want to blame him entirely.
Fife are quick, too quick for our defencemen if given the chance to skate unchallenged. I can't remember the order of the goals but Tetlow missed a hit, allowing two players past him, they score. I'm pretty sure Hughes and Olsen were caught flat footed and Fife scored, Stewart attempted an across ice pass whilst on the PP, intercepted.. they score. All in the first period. Garnett was far from being good but the performance of those in front of him for 99% of the time he was in net was shambolic.
This game frustrated me more than any for a while, we're getting hammered on the scoreboard and we do not attempt to turn the heat up, we have no go-to spark. We coast and coast and coast and let Fife continue their rout. Everything Fife did when attacking appeared exceptionally well organised, not perfect but they knew what they were doing when they started carrying the puck up ice, they had a plan and appeared to stick to it. We didn't, we take the puck up ice and fire it at the end boards or try to deke our way through 2 defenceman and usually an additional forward, get closed down and then have to fight for the puck again. Fife are not a big team but we didn't take advantage of that, we play physical, we wear them down and they won't like it, we give them space and they play the game their way and are very effective.
The hit on Farmer, a guy like Farmer doesn't milk injuries, and he goes down like he's been shot. That tells me he's badly hurt. There was no penalty against the Fife player. Lepine, rightfully so goes to make the Fife player answer.. but does he answer? No. Does Lepine make him answer? No. I've felt like Lepine was being held back significantly by something all season, I just can't and don't want to believe this is the same player we had a few years ago, it just doesn't add up. He played physical last season, and the season before that. He's big, he can hit hard and he's tough as nails, he's fought all of his career but now he doesn't? To me that tells me he's being told not to fight and I hope that is the case, as much as it disappoints me. The lack of reaction to Farmer's injury was a disgrace, Farmer may not be producing like he once was but he is still a key player for us and we just let it happen without any real consequences, we gifted them a powerplay if anything. If they had a powerplay, but also a badly beaten player.. I'd feel much better.
Bolduc played well for most of the game and got tied up with Owen a couple of times, until it finally boiled over and Birzins went for him, trading glove punches. The game was nearly over, we had lost. Bolduc is another who is tough but doesn't play like it, he isn't an enforcer but he's a power forward who has a lot of tough names on his fight list. Yet he allows some random Latvian plug to throw punches at him. Now, I'm not wanting a bench clearance or a line brawl but jesus christ. Why sign a big, heavy team if they aren't going to stand up for themselves, and most importantly their teammates. Where is the honour, where's the pride?
Tetlow was the only one who showed any real balls tonight, the youngest person on the team (I'm aware he's enormous) ensuring the gloves are thrown off and he tries to make the fife player pay. The reaction of the players on the bench said it all to me, most where hanging over the boards hitting their sticks to applaud him. He deserves a lot of credit for that, he isn't a great player, he's developing well and he's steady, I feel he's getting given too much ice time at the moment but that what he did tonight was the only truly positive thing I saw. That and Stewart I suppose.
Stewart oozes experience, his first shift was outstanding and whilst the rest of the game he was relatively quiet he created a few chances and had a few near misses himself. Once match fit and up to speed I think he'll be a real asset.
Gospel, played very well given the fact we spent half the game killing penalties, royally thrown in at the deep end and whilst he conceded 1, he was superb and if Garnett had stayed in net it probably would've ended in double figures. Gospel and Betteridge were the stand outs in a dreadful, dreadful game.
Final thought though, Chernomaz. I'm losing faith. This style of hockey is very boring and incredibly inconsistent, we have no spine and we have no real urgency. The players don't appear to listen to him from what I have seen and it's just not working. I wasn't expecting a league title in his debut season but I was expecting a much better display than we have seen. Would firing him/not re-signing him be too knee-jerk? I don't think so anymore.
I've not been so frustrated and disappointed like this after a game for a long time.
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Post by nottinghamsenator on Jan 5, 2019 23:02:52 GMT
He looked edgy all night, no chance on the 2 on 1s but his rebound control was all over the place. Very bad shorthander to concede to going across him. The shorthander was down to Stewart giving the puck away! He’d still want it back, there was only one place he could go with it and fair enough good release, but let’s not pretend it was a breakaway like the one Gospel saved later on. Garnett looked off tonight but he couldn’t do anything for a few of them. Defence was a disgrace tonight.
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Post by Bagheera on Jan 5, 2019 23:03:10 GMT
The performance of the Panthers and the officials are two entirely different entities and have no link to each other. Just because they wern't to blame for the result doesn't mean they wern't awefull.
Panthers first. Actually the first period wasn't that bad. Certainly not a 0 3 period performance. A terrible play by Teltlow started it off and it was downhill from there. The second was god aweful and the 3rd was just a waste of time. 10mins of penalty kill to start the period.
On to the officals. I'll give you my opinion why they were indeed terrible and it wont include constantly getting in the way. It started with the cross checking call on Lepine in the 2nd and this call also highlights the issue with further calls. He pushed the guy with one hand. The one hand not holding the stick. Was it a penalty? I dont think so but if it was then cross checking is a farce. The next issue was the non call on the Farmer hit, Penalty( I already mentioned at the time that Lepine should have no choiced the guy instead of asking). This spilled over into the 3rd with Tetlows actions. A game penalty for that. This is why the game is dying. I bemone Panthers for no plan B and not trying to rough it up. No wonder with calls like that. The next few calls isn't a case of penalty or no penalty but again what is called. Tripping called slashing and slashing called tripping. Perdantic maybe, but obviously in these cases the actions were not what was called. Finally, and my biggest issue. 90% of the time the calls made on Panthers arn't bad in their own right. The issue(as mentioned by others) is the non calls the other way. Plays either side of a Panthers penalty equally as penalty worthy go unpunished. Tonight at least a slash, diving and holding not called. Tbh anything the Panthers did after the Tetlow call I was pleased to see. The game was gone, yes they showed a lack of discipline but at least they were showing some emotion and that they cared. To be honest im just frustrated we didnt go the next level and goon it up. Remember what many started the season saying? At least if we lose we will be entertained. If only.
Yes i've talked more about the officals than how bad Panthers were. Im simply fed up of talking about that.
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 5, 2019 23:05:24 GMT
Fun third, but for the wrong reasons. Lack of discipline seems a real problem. I didn't see many wrong calls from the stripes. Fife easily the better side. Might go again next week... Seriously? Why was Tetlow thrown out? Where was the call for the hit on Farmer? Lepine ‘roughing’ seriously? Where were the embellishment calls on Flyers? There diving was embarrassing. What was Lee called for? How did Owen get away with so many infractions? They were dreadful but this is the norm this season. The stripeys are getting worse. I’ll keep saying it, the 2 ref system does not work! There aren’t enough refs to go around and promoting linesman that clearly aren’t up to the job is ruining the game as a spectacle. As for our ‘performance’ we’d lost it after two periods. We were awful. Gospel deservedly MOM. Do we actually train together during the week? Come on Ted, you know your hockey. Teltow had to go, he no-choiced the guy. You can't do that. Lepine's call was softish, maybe. Was Farmer's injury boarding or incidental? Not sure tbh. Our two trips on the 5 min were correct calls, didn't see the slash from my end. Embellishment hardly ever gets called, credit Fife for playing smart possum imo, good game management. Refs were Scottish by the way.... just to calm you lot down.
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Post by iginla on Jan 5, 2019 23:05:39 GMT
It definitely wasn't a good game for Garnett, he seemed a bit lost but I really do not want to blame him entirely. Fife are quick, too quick for our defencemen if given the chance to skate unchallenged. I can't remember the order of the goals but Tetlow missed a hit, allowing two players past him, they score. I'm pretty sure Hughes and Olsen were caught flat footed and Fife scored, Stewart attempted an across ice pass whilst on the PP, intercepted.. they score. All in the first period. Garnett was far from being good but the performance of those in front of him for 99% of the time he was in net was shambolic. This game frustrated me more than any for a while, we're getting hammered on the scoreboard and we do not attempt to turn the heat up, we have no go-to spark. We coast and coast and coast and let Fife continue their rout. Everything Fife did when attacking appeared exceptionally well organised, not perfect but they knew what they were doing when they started carrying the puck up ice, they had a plan and appeared to stick to it. We didn't, we take the puck up ice and fire it at the end boards or try to deke our way through 2 defenceman and usually an additional forward, get closed down and then have to fight for the puck again. Fife are not a big team but we didn't take advantage of that, we play physical, we wear them down and they won't like it, we give them space and they play the game their way and are very effective. The hit on Farmer, a guy like Farmer doesn't milk injuries, and he goes down like he's been shot. That tells me he's badly hurt. There was no penalty against the Fife player. Lepine, rightfully so goes to make the Fife player answer.. but does he answer? No. Does Lepine make him answer? No. I've felt like Lepine was being held back significantly by something all season, I just can't and don't want to believe this is the same player we had a few years ago, it just doesn't add up. He played physical last season, and the season before that. He's big, he can hit hard and he's tough as nails, he's fought all of his career but now he doesn't? To me that tells me he's being told not to fight and I hope that is the case, as much as it disappoints me. The lack of reaction to Farmer's injury was a disgrace, Farmer may not be producing like he once was but he is still a key player for us and we just let it happen without any real consequences, we gifted them a powerplay if anything. If they had a powerplay, but also a badly beaten player.. I'd feel much better. Bolduc played well for most of the game and got tied up with Owen a couple of times, until it finally boiled over and Birzins went for him, trading glove punches. The game was nearly over, we had lost. Bolduc is another who is tough but doesn't play like it, he isn't an enforcer but he's a power forward who has a lot of tough names on his fight list. Yet he allows some random Latvian plug to throw punches at him. Now, I'm not wanting a bench clearance or a line brawl but jesus christ. Why sign a big, heavy team if they aren't going to stand up for themselves, and most importantly their teammates. Where is the honour, where's the pride? Tetlow was the only one who showed any real balls tonight, the youngest person on the team (I'm aware he's enormous) ensuring the gloves are thrown off and he tries to make the fife player pay. The reaction of the players on the bench said it all to me, most where hanging over the boards hitting their sticks to applaud him. He deserves a lot of credit for that, he isn't a great player, he's developing well and he's steady, I feel he's getting given too much ice time at the moment but that what he did tonight was the only truly positive thing I saw. That and Stewart I suppose. Stewart oozes experience, his first shift was outstanding and whilst the rest of the game he was relatively quiet he created a few chances and had a few near misses himself. Once match fit and up to speed I think he'll be a real asset. Gospel, played very well given the fact we spent half the game killing penalties, royally thrown in at the deep end and whilst he conceded 1, he was superb and if Garnett had stayed in net it probably would've ended in double figures. Gospel and Betteridge were the stand outs in a dreadful, dreadful game. Final thought though, Chernomaz. I'm losing faith. This style of hockey is very boring and incredibly inconsistent, we have no spine and we have no real urgency. The players don't appear to listen to him from what I have seen and it's just not working. I wasn't expecting a league title in his debut season but I was expecting a much better display than we have seen. Would firing him/not re-signing him be too knee-jerk? I don't think so anymore. I've not been so frustrated and disappointed like this after a game for a long time. Pretty spot on this for me. Seems like we’ve got a team that is mirroring their coach. I was expecting far more from Cherno this season,a whole lot more.
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 5, 2019 23:07:59 GMT
It's not the refs fault we gave away the puck so often & let in cheap goals. Also not the refs fault we only had one line with any real chemistry. I know I haven't been for a while but we were poor, really really poor.
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Post by Mark on Jan 5, 2019 23:09:09 GMT
Lacking energy, Leaderless, no spark, no plan A or B. Good crowd though.....
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Post by Bagheera on Jan 5, 2019 23:09:49 GMT
It's not the refs fault we gave away the puck so often & let in cheap goals. Also not the refs fault we only had one line with any real chemistry. I know I haven't been for a while but we were poor, really really poor. And I think you'll struggle to find anybody saying otherwise.
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Post by pantherlee on Jan 5, 2019 23:11:22 GMT
My view on Stewart was that he was terrible tonight. He came out all guns blazing skating all over the ice and threw a huge Janssen-esque hit. Then we went a couple of goals down and seemed to lose all interest. Seemingly no effort and just ambling around waiting for the puck to come to him. No doubt he’s a class player but if he’s just going to treat this a rec game and become another Westgarth then he can clear off. Hope this doesn’t prove to be the case in the long run
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Post by John Casey on Jan 5, 2019 23:35:00 GMT
We had Scottish Refs, mind you I don't recall the officials being announced. The game was over after 2 and Fife well deserved their lead, however I do believe that Fife embellished a lot and got away with things.Granted I realize that it won't happen, but I would like better scheduling with fixtures. Did that Guildford game really need to happen last Wednesday?
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Post by ted logan on Jan 5, 2019 23:45:21 GMT
Seriously? Why was Tetlow thrown out? Where was the call for the hit on Farmer? Lepine ‘roughing’ seriously? Where were the embellishment calls on Flyers? There diving was embarrassing. What was Lee called for? How did Owen get away with so many infractions? They were dreadful but this is the norm this season. The stripeys are getting worse. I’ll keep saying it, the 2 ref system does not work! There aren’t enough refs to go around and promoting linesman that clearly aren’t up to the job is ruining the game as a spectacle. As for our ‘performance’ we’d lost it after two periods. We were awful. Gospel deservedly MOM. Do we actually train together during the week? take your gold tinted glasses off. Other than Lee being called for what lepine did there was not much wrong with the calls. Lepine should have just pounded the bloke not shoved him a couple of times. Take my gold tinted glasses off? Apologies young un, i bow down to your superior knowledge. Read my post again, there’s nothing gold tinted about my view of how Panthers played. The stripeys are great, you’re right. I can find nothing wrong with them. They’re clearly improving the sport as a spectacle in this country. It’s so much better to watch nowadays don’t you think?
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Post by iginla on Jan 5, 2019 23:46:14 GMT
We had Scottish Refs, mind you I don't recall the officials being announced. The game was over after 2 and Fife well deserved their lead, however I do believe that Fife embellished a lot and got away with things.Granted I realize that it won't happen, but I would like better scheduling with fixtures. Did that Guildford game really need to happen last Wednesday? Of course the Guildford game didn’t need to happen on the 2nd Jan,I even called it well before the game that it was very dumb scheduling. It was the usual tired post Xmas game through pure greed from Panthers just trying to get the crowd in. Playing 14 games in December was utterly stupid ! I’ve said it before,we need to completely revisit our whole pre,during and post Xmas schedule for next season,because everything about it in who we play and results wise has become very boring and predictably poor all round.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 5, 2019 23:46:46 GMT
take your gold tinted glasses off. Other than Lee being called for what lepine did there was not much wrong with the calls. Lepine should have just pounded the bloke not shoved him a couple of times. Take my gold tinted glasses off? Apologies young un, i bow down to your superior knowledge. The stripeys are great, you’re right. I can find nothing wrong with them. They’re clearly improving the sport as a spectacle on this country. It’s so much better to watch nowadays don’t you think? No matter how bad the stripeys are they are far better at thier jobs than that pillock Chernomaz
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Post by ted logan on Jan 5, 2019 23:47:11 GMT
Seriously? Why was Tetlow thrown out? Where was the call for the hit on Farmer? Lepine ‘roughing’ seriously? Where were the embellishment calls on Flyers? There diving was embarrassing. What was Lee called for? How did Owen get away with so many infractions? They were dreadful but this is the norm this season. The stripeys are getting worse. I’ll keep saying it, the 2 ref system does not work! There aren’t enough refs to go around and promoting linesman that clearly aren’t up to the job is ruining the game as a spectacle. As for our ‘performance’ we’d lost it after two periods. We were awful. Gospel deservedly MOM. Do we actually train together during the week? We managed to ruin the game as a spectacle all by ourselves tonight. The worst Panthers performance I have ever seen on so many levels Agreed, as I said in my post, we’d lost it after two periods and were awful (fumbles around looking for gold tinted glasses)
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 5, 2019 23:48:28 GMT
We managed to ruin the game as a spectacle all by ourselves tonight. The worst Panthers performance I have ever seen on so many levels Agreed, as I said in my post, we’d lost it after two periods and were awful (fumbles around looking for gold tinted glasses) I have a pair you can have. Just about finished with mine I think now.
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Post by ted logan on Jan 5, 2019 23:55:23 GMT
Seriously? Why was Tetlow thrown out? Where was the call for the hit on Farmer? Lepine ‘roughing’ seriously? Where were the embellishment calls on Flyers? There diving was embarrassing. What was Lee called for? How did Owen get away with so many infractions? They were dreadful but this is the norm this season. The stripeys are getting worse. I’ll keep saying it, the 2 ref system does not work! There aren’t enough refs to go around and promoting linesman that clearly aren’t up to the job is ruining the game as a spectacle. As for our ‘performance’ we’d lost it after two periods. We were awful. Gospel deservedly MOM. Do we actually train together during the week? Come on Ted, you know your hockey. Teltow had to go, he no-choiced the guy. You can't do that. Lepine's call was softish, maybe. Was Farmer's injury boarding or incidental? Not sure tbh. Our two trips on the 5 min were correct calls, didn't see the slash from my end. Embellishment hardly ever gets called, credit Fife for playing smart possum imo, good game management. Refs were Scottish by the way.... just to calm you lot down. Hey no worries Jord. Seriously though, if Tetlow has no choiced him and pummelled him then I’d have no complaints, but he threw a single punch. As Yotes said, there’s the possibility that the Flyers guy had agreed to the fight then kept his gloves on? The Lepine call was soft and was no more (or less) than the Flyers guy did to Bolduc less than a minute later. Farmers looked like a missed boarding call. I can’t stand embellishment and there was plenty of it. I can’t give credit to any team for that. We deserved to lose, no doubt. I’m just finding the standard of officiating is getting worse and this four man system isn’t helping. Quite the opposite actually.
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 6, 2019 0:10:53 GMT
Come on Ted, you know your hockey. Teltow had to go, he no-choiced the guy. You can't do that. Lepine's call was softish, maybe. Was Farmer's injury boarding or incidental? Not sure tbh. Our two trips on the 5 min were correct calls, didn't see the slash from my end. Embellishment hardly ever gets called, credit Fife for playing smart possum imo, good game management. Refs were Scottish by the way.... just to calm you lot down. Hey no worries Jord. Seriously though, if Tetlow has no choiced him and pummelled him then I’d have no complaints, but he threw a single punch. As Yotes said, there’s the possibility that the Flyers guy had agreed to the fight then kept his gloves on? The Lepine call was soft and was no more (or less) than the Flyers guy did to Bolduc less than a minute later. Farmers looked like a missed boarding call. I can’t stand embellishment and there was plenty of it. I can’t give credit to any team for that. We deserved to lose, no doubt. I’m just finding the standard of officiating is getting worse and this four man system isn’t helping. Quite the opposite actually. Ok Ted, all about opinions my friend. You've seen much more of the stripes than I have this season so respect your views obviously. I just didn't see too much wrong from them tonight. Panthers were way more at fault for that result imo.
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Post by ted logan on Jan 6, 2019 0:17:45 GMT
Hey no worries Jord. Seriously though, if Tetlow has no choiced him and pummelled him then I’d have no complaints, but he threw a single punch. As Yotes said, there’s the possibility that the Flyers guy had agreed to the fight then kept his gloves on? The Lepine call was soft and was no more (or less) than the Flyers guy did to Bolduc less than a minute later. Farmers looked like a missed boarding call. I can’t stand embellishment and there was plenty of it. I can’t give credit to any team for that. We deserved to lose, no doubt. I’m just finding the standard of officiating is getting worse and this four man system isn’t helping. Quite the opposite actually. Ok Ted, all about opinions my friend. You've seen much more of the stripes than I have this season so respect your views obviously. I just didn't see too much wrong from them tonight. Panthers were way more at fault for that result imo. Completely agree mate, I’m in no way blaming the stripeys for our defeat. That’s pure and simple down to our guys. I’m struggling to think of a single skater who emerged with any credit tonight? Even Guptill was quiet offensively.
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Post by PantherG on Jan 6, 2019 0:20:02 GMT
The chat about the referees tonight is a great distraction for Panthers PLC... have the fans moan about the refs and not focus as much as they should on this shower of crap we have..
Chermo can go now for me, he keeps saying they don’t stick to his plan, why is that? Lack of respect, because they think your plan stinks, or do they all want him gone? Whatever the reason I hope to god his days are numbered as he is killing hockey this season, absolutely killing it. The atmosphere has been sucked out the building and the on ice performance is laughable. I’ve had enough and I’m not alone, many long term fans are slowly coming to the end of the line with this club.
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 6, 2019 0:20:03 GMT
Ok Ted, all about opinions my friend. You've seen much more of the stripes than I have this season so respect your views obviously. I just didn't see too much wrong from them tonight. Panthers were way more at fault for that result imo. Completely agree mate, I’m in no way blaming the stripeys for our defeat. That’s pure and simple down to our guys. I’m struggling to think of a single skater who emerged with any credit tonight? Even Guptill was quiet offensively. Ollie, Bolduc, Henderson.... & Sam in nets. Hughes did nothing wrong either. Apart from that... it was absolutely terrible.
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Post by sevcik on Jan 6, 2019 0:21:15 GMT
Take my gold tinted glasses off? Apologies young un, i bow down to your superior knowledge. The stripeys are great, you’re right. I can find nothing wrong with them. They’re clearly improving the sport as a spectacle on this country. It’s so much better to watch nowadays don’t you think? No matter how bad the stripeys are they are far better at thier jobs than that pillock Chernomaz Not according to the Muppet in block 5 shouting at the reffs calling them d#ck heads at least four or five times. I could hear him the other side of the arena. How the steward never had a word with him I don't know. Probably the same idiot who was at Coventry before Christmas chanting the same word about Kevin Noble. Interestingly Chernomaz was having a word in Tetlows ear before he went on for his final shift prior to getting chucked out. Whether Chernomaz was telling Tetlow to send a message to the player in question I don't know. It may be just coincidence.... Never seen Steve Brown ref a good game. Yet again as soon as a team scores against us our determination vanishes and we collapse. I thought with the return of Rheault & Henderson & the results of the previous 2 games we'd turned the corner and developed a backbone. Obviously not.... One thing's for sure the game in Fife in a week or two could be an interesting one....
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