Teddy Bear Toss Fiasco

[loupowell52]

What an utter embarrassment.  Why not simply wave the white flag with ten minutes remaining against the Giants.  Simply surrender and admit that we are incapable of scoring.  Do the Club have no shame or sense of dignity and respect for their can see ?

[kezypanther]

Tbf there were only two choices

1. Do as they did and throw with 10mins remaining - Embarrassing
2. Throw after the game has finished if we didn’t score - Embarrassing

Either way us not scoring made the whole thing a shambles and either one just as embarrassing.

[Yotes]

I'd go with option 2 there every time Kezy. There was still a slim chance of us getting the goal in the last 10, but even if we didn't we can then just quietly do it and not interrupt the game for it.

Appreciate they were probably thinking on their feet a bit, and don't blame the game night team at all, but a chorus of boos isn't the usual soundtrack to a charity event.

[wgray]

In future if we don’t score in the first period get everbody to throw them once the first period is over, then we can avoid the embarrassment we had to suffer tonight. What a stupid decision.

[iginla]

They could always just have said sorry we’ll do it next week.
Advice for next year Panthers,do the teddy toss against somebody we might have a chance of scoring against....like MK or Dundee !

[kezypanther]

Nov 10, 2018 23:37:50 GMT Yotes said:

I'd go with option 2 there every time Kezy. There was still a slim chance of us getting the goal in the last 10, but even if we didn't we can then just quietly do it and not interrupt the game for it.

Appreciate they were probably thinking on their feet a bit, and don't blame the game night team at all, but a chorus of boos isn't the usual soundtrack to a charity event.

I agree I would have gone with the second option but the match night guys had to make a choice and maybe they thought as we are getting whooped people might start leaving / less teddies for charity.

If I was there my teddy would have been thrown the moment that 4th giant goal went in, everyone should have thrown it when they scored infact and make the Panthers players collect them up for such a performance.

[iginla]

Nov 11, 2018 0:05:27 GMT kezypanther said:

Nov 10, 2018 23:37:50 GMT Yotes said:

I'd go with option 2 there every time Kezy. There was still a slim chance of us getting the goal in the last 10, but even if we didn't we can then just quietly do it and not interrupt the game for it.

Appreciate they were probably thinking on their feet a bit, and don't blame the game night team at all, but a chorus of boos isn't the usual soundtrack to a charity event.

I agree I would have gone with the second option but the match night guys had to make a choice and maybe they thought as we are getting whooped people might start leaving / less teddies for charity.

If I was there my teddy would have been thrown the moment that 4th giant goal went in, everyone should have thrown it when they scored infact and make the Panthers players collect them up for such a performance.

Sounds more like they should have been aimed at the bench.

[Mark]

The Nottingham Panthers. Amateurish, childish, miserly and lacking any real connection with their own fans.

[GuinnessMan]

Personally I'd have the tbt at the end of first period whistle regardless.

[Sheetmaself]

Should of done it at the end. We didn’t stay to see the end as I couldn’t be bothered anymore (just like the players) but surely anyone leaving early would of left the teddy in the arena and not brought it home with them. Doing it the way they did showed that they had no belief in the team.

By the way we were in block 18 and at the end of period 2 I’m sure i saw our little white haired friend was giving instructions to those in charge with collecting them so i believe that is when the decision was made and who it was made by.

Was strange as i joking said to my wife on the way there i wonder what they’ll do if we don’t score!

[wasteoftime]

Why have a Teddy Bear toss? why not have a place to leave them when you come into the arena.

[Sheetmaself]

Nov 11, 2018 7:40:05 GMT wasteoftime said:

Why have a Teddy Bear toss? why not have a place to leave them when you come into the arena.

Mainly because human beings are rubbish and the majority won’t give unless they see what’s in it for them. How many teddies do you think people would bring in just to put into a plastic container outside the rink versus the amount people will throw onto the rink in a teddy bear toss. I suspect the answer isn’t even half.

[iaincd]

Shame we couldn’t have thrown a few passionate ice hockey players on

[dexter]

Farcical and embarrassing. Showed we had no confidence in the team scoring.

[pantherlee]

Nov 11, 2018 8:41:53 GMT Sheetmaself said:

Nov 11, 2018 7:40:05 GMT wasteoftime said:

Why have a Teddy Bear toss? why not have a place to leave them when you come into the arena.

Mainly because human beings are rubbish and the majority won’t give unless they see what’s in it for them. How many teddies do you think people would bring in just to put into a plastic container outside the rink versus the amount people will throw onto the rink in a teddy bear toss. I suspect the answer isn’t even half.

No people wouldn't but this is how charity events work to raise money it nothing specific to panthers or ice hockey. Why do you think charities have fund raising events? Because they don't get enough from donations alone.

Regarding the teddy bear toss this i just another reason for the usual cynics to have a go at panthers because they just like to see the negativity in anything they do. You can't just leave it for the next game as some people who brought teddies won't be attending the next game. Leaving it for the end of the game would just be wasting everybody's time and could also be potentially dangerous with people pushing forward to throw teddies as other people are trying to leave. It might have been cringeworthy but i don't think the club had another choice. The only ones to blame are the players for putting in such a crap performance

[bobness]

Nov 11, 2018 9:17:50 GMT pantherlee said:

Regarding the teddy bear toss this i just another reason for the usual cynics to have a go at panthers because they just like to see the negativity in anything they do.

Pretty much this. Poor performance and the tbt are separate issues.
Given the performance, the tbt put the organisation in a damned if they do, damned if they don’t situation. And people are queuing up to do the damning.
Maybe the tbt is done on the first goal, whoever scores it. Chances of a 0-0 draw are slim.

[iginla]

Nov 11, 2018 12:34:48 GMT bobness said:

Nov 11, 2018 9:17:50 GMT pantherlee said:

Regarding the teddy bear toss this i just another reason for the usual cynics to have a go at panthers because they just like to see the negativity in anything they do.

Pretty much this. Poor performance and the tbt are separate issues.
Given the performance, the tbt put the organisation in a damned if they do, damned if they don’t situation. And people are queuing up to do the damning.
Maybe the tbt is done on the first goal, whoever scores it. Chances of a 0-0 draw are slim.

Perhaps if Panthers as an organisation didn’t put themselves in the firing line so easily and so often then people may be a little more sympathetic to their cause.
Truth is they shoot themselves in the foot so often it’s untrue and embarrassing.
They couldn’t even put a teddy toss picture on twitter without it having a reflection of the toilets shining brightly in the plexiglass ! 🙄 Pmsl

[mardibum]

Personally, I’ve always thought it a really stupid idea to do it after ANY Panthers goal. If you’re on a high and have the momentum why would you want to stop the game for 5 minutes? Should be at the end of the first period.

[mardibum]

Oh, I forgot! Talking of fiascos, did anyone see the live cup draw? Absolutely dire. My grandkids primary school could have done better.

[iginla]

Nov 12, 2018 19:16:44 GMT mardibum said:

Oh, I forgot! Talking of fiascos, did anyone see the live cup draw? Absolutely dire. My grandkids primary school could have done better.

So bad i believe they deleted the footage before too much of the wider hockey world saw it. 😂

[tootootrain]

Nov 12, 2018 19:40:57 GMT iginla said:

So bad i believe they deleted the footage before too much of the wider hockey world saw it. 😂

As bad as the 'bag 4 life' draw, featuring two items marked 'Sheffield' (a ball and a puck?) in the bag?

[Yotes]

Nov 11, 2018 9:17:50 GMT pantherlee said:

Regarding the teddy bear toss this i just another reason for the usual cynics to have a go at panthers because they just like to see the negativity in anything they do. You can't just leave it for the next game as some people who brought teddies won't be attending the next game. Leaving it for the end of the game would just be wasting everybody's time and could also be potentially dangerous with people pushing forward to throw teddies as other people are trying to leave. It might have been cringeworthy but i don't think the club had another choice. The only ones to blame are the players for putting in such a crap performance

Have to disagree (except on the crap performance obviously). The contingency plan would always have to be the least worst option in this situation, I'm not sure how waving the white flag at 50 minutes, embarrassing the fans and players, and having the whole thing accompanied by a soundtrack of boos is ever going to be that.

End of the game, or end of a period, would surely be better? It just felt like no one had considered the possibility, and from the sounds of it this was one Gary came up with mid game.