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Post by cardiffhockey on Oct 31, 2018 21:22:35 GMT
Are you watching the game?? I feel sorry for whistle, they have given up at least 6/7 2 on 1s and he hasn’t had much of a chance.
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Post by wgray on Oct 31, 2018 22:00:17 GMT
Are you watching the game?? I feel sorry for whistle, they have given up at least 6/7 2 on 1s and he hasn’t had much of a chance. Yes there team defence is terrible, but his rebound control isn’t the best imo, on easier saves he gives up too many second chances.
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Post by ant on Oct 31, 2018 23:37:14 GMT
They’ll have more success this year than us. Looking at the rosters that started the year they’ve improved as a team and we’ve gone backwards. Oh just like last year.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2018 23:51:42 GMT
They’ll have more success this year than us. Looking at the rosters that started the year they’ve improved as a team and we’ve gone backwards. Oh just like last year. They may have more sucess than us, we ll see come March/april. Plenty of hockey left and plenty of twists and turns I'm sure .
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Post by Mark Mac on Nov 1, 2018 9:20:26 GMT
They’ll have more success this year than us. Looking at the rosters that started the year they’ve improved as a team and we’ve gone backwards. Oh just like last year. They may have more sucess than us, we ll see come March/april. Plenty of hockey left and plenty of twists and turns I'm sure . Considering they've managed to win games fairly quickly from what so many people were calling a write-off season whereas we continue to screw it up, I think it is safe to say they will end up better than us.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 9:52:36 GMT
They may have more sucess than us, we ll see come March/april. Plenty of hockey left and plenty of twists and turns I'm sure . Considering they've managed to win games fairly quickly from what so many people were calling a write-off season whereas we continue to screw it up, I think it is safe to say they will end up better than us. Steelers are .. like Panthers have both cups to aim for at the most .. that's a fact. Aiming to finish 2nd(and it will a distant 2nd at that) in the league? You may as well finish 8th!! You still win FA
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 10:05:31 GMT
They may have more sucess than us, we ll see come March/april. Plenty of hockey left and plenty of twists and turns I'm sure . Considering they've managed to win games fairly quickly from what so many people were calling a write-off season whereas we continue to screw it up, I think it is safe to say they will end up better than us. They are also scrapping through games as well.. remember like Panthers were at the start of last year but were calling very fortunate in the process . If the Steelers had improved they would be seeing games off long before the last 5 mins of games .. and certainly wouldn't be needing the extra period at home! What i do see is they are battling.. but come on the are so short on quality it's bizarre
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Post by iginla on Nov 1, 2018 10:20:01 GMT
Considering they've managed to win games fairly quickly from what so many people were calling a write-off season whereas we continue to screw it up, I think it is safe to say they will end up better than us. They are also scrapping through games as well.. remember like Panthers were at the start of last year but were calling very fortunate in the process . If the Steelers had improved they would be seeing games off long before the last 5 mins of games .. and certainly wouldn't be needing the extra period at home! What i do see is they are battling.. but come on the are so short on quality it's bizarre They might be short on quality Pidge but they’ve started working very hard and winning. But they won’t stay short on quality for long you know what they’re like. A couple of quality forwards who know where the net is and they’re a different team. I thought Kopriva saved Coventry from a beating last night, Steelers created a lot of chances but didn’t take them.
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Post by Mark Mac on Nov 1, 2018 10:23:38 GMT
You miss the point. A few weeks ago the coach resigned, they had no-one for a few days then found this new guy. Everyone was saying the entire season is a write-off but they've managed to start winning. Yeh, they're scraping games but they are still winning. If they can improve that much in only a few weeks then it is sensible to see them continuing to improve. We, on the other hand, haven't had that enormous change/disaster. We haven't had fans saying this is a complete write-off. Yet, over the last few weeks we aren't much better than them, if at all.
They are going up. We are floundering, still.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 10:25:32 GMT
They are also scrapping through games as well.. remember like Panthers were at the start of last year but were calling very fortunate in the process . If the Steelers had improved they would be seeing games off long before the last 5 mins of games .. and certainly wouldn't be needing the extra period at home! What i do see is they are battling.. but come on the are so short on quality it's bizarre I thought Kopriva saved Coventry from a beating last night, Steelers created a lot of chances but didn’t take them. Same situation with ginn when we beat the mancs 2-1. We ll see who they bring in (if they do)! Westerling has hardly improved things 😂
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 10:27:50 GMT
We haven't had fans saying this is a complete write-off. Yet You have been reading this forum, yes?
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Post by Mark Mac on Nov 1, 2018 10:30:10 GMT
We haven't had fans saying this is a complete write-off. Yet You have been reading this forum, yes? Yes, and the fan reaction here hasn't been as bad as it was for Shuff. Yet again, you fail to engage the point.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 10:41:27 GMT
You have been reading this forum, yes? Yes, and the fan reaction here hasn't been as bad as it was for Shuff. Yet again, you fail to engage the point. Not really I get the point quite clearly thanks. They were losing games left right and centre with a team short on quality signed by Thommo. The moaning was justified. On here there's moaning for moaning sake. I've said it once and I ll say it again but this team has the quality. THEY NEED TO WORK HARDER! attack as a team and defend as a team both ends of the ice. One incline and impression I get is Rich may be very lets say brash before before closed doors and at training and perhaps the players ain't responding. Like I say it's something that I've thought for a while which could be reasonable for the recent bad run .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 10:44:12 GMT
We haven't had fans saying this is a complete write-off. Yet You have been reading this forum, yes? We aren't past the point of no return but we aren't far away and on the face of it the club aren't doing all that much to remedy the situation. That visit to the RSPCA last week, sure you get a few good pictures but honestly where was the value in that for the players. The players should either but working their backsides off on the ice or gym or if fatigue is a factor in the dip in form then they should be resting up rather that having to spend a few hours pandering to our Marketing/PR department. Why was Stevie Lee's testimonial played on a week we have a Friday night game? If the fixtures changed after the date was confirmed then fair enough but again even though it was just an exhibition game I'd much rather see our players resting up on a week where you have one less recovery/preperation day than usual. I know the club didn't organise the testimonial but I'm sure they gave the green light on the date. These are such small points that it's almost not worth mentioning but all of these things add up. We should be doing everything as a club to ensure that by 10pm on a Saturday we have 2 points in the bag. Losing a couple more games before the new year and the league title is gone again before we even get to January. We can still recover, but don't see it happening because of the lack of urgency or appreciation as to how quickly our season is disintegrating. I'd love nothing more than for the club to read this message and turn it around purely to spite me but if the MK defeat, Scotland defeats, Sheffield defeat and Belfast defeat didn't spark a reaction there's no chance little old me will spark a reaction.
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Post by iginla on Nov 1, 2018 10:48:48 GMT
We haven't had fans saying this is a complete write-off. Yet You have been reading this forum, yes? To be fair Pidge the Panthers fans have been pretty good so far considering we’ve lost about 7 of our last 10 games, mainly tempered i think because of the new Cherno factor. Panthers season league wise isn’t a write off just yet unlike Steelers,but unless Panthers start winning regularly straight away now this years league challenge will be over before the end of November.
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Post by iginla on Nov 1, 2018 11:09:37 GMT
You have been reading this forum, yes? We aren't past the point of no return but we aren't far away and on the face of it the club aren't doing all that much to remedy the situation. That visit to the RSPCA last week, sure you get a few good pictures but honestly where was the value in that for the players. The players should either but working their backsides off on the ice or gym or if fatigue is a factor in the dip in form then they should be resting up rather that having to spend a few hours pandering to our Marketing/PR department. Why was Stevie Lee's testimonial played on a week we have a Friday night game? If the fixtures changed after the date was confirmed then fair enough but again even though it was just an exhibition game I'd much rather see our players resting up on a week where you have one less recovery/preperation day than usual. I know the club didn't organise the testimonial but I'm sure they gave the green light on the date. These are such small points that it's almost not worth mentioning but all of these things add up. We should be doing everything as a club to ensure that by 10pm on a Saturday we have 2 points in the bag. Losing a couple more games before the new year and the league title is gone again before we even get to January. We can still recover, but don't see it happening because of the lack of urgency or appreciation as to how quickly our season is disintegrating. I'd love nothing more than for the club to read this message and turn it around purely to spite me but if the MK defeat, Scotland defeats, Sheffield defeat and Belfast defeat didn't spark a reaction there's no chance little old me will spark a reaction. Spot on post Stratty. Like i said yesterday our players are sick to death of having to do so much off ice crap,it’s been like it for years. Cherno should be saying NO Gary my players need rest, not having to go to another school,rspca,MacDonalds restaurant,quiz night,butchers shop,meet the players evening,awards night,daft photo shoot, etc etc etc. They have a wall chart of events outside the dressing room and they take one look and go oh for gods sake this is ridiculous. I know they do,our players have told me many times ! Still a calendar is nice,much more important than winning eh ? Get the players to go the RSPCA one afternoon,get some mug firm to sponsor it (ie pay to print the calendar) then thank you very much we’ll sell a 1000 of those at £10 or £12 a pop and we’ll pocket all the money say Panthers. But hey ho this team never makes much profit ! Mmmmm ! 🙄
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 11:24:53 GMT
We aren't past the point of no return but we aren't far away and on the face of it the club aren't doing all that much to remedy the situation. That visit to the RSPCA last week, sure you get a few good pictures but honestly where was the value in that for the players. The players should either but working their backsides off on the ice or gym or if fatigue is a factor in the dip in form then they should be resting up rather that having to spend a few hours pandering to our Marketing/PR department. Why was Stevie Lee's testimonial played on a week we have a Friday night game? If the fixtures changed after the date was confirmed then fair enough but again even though it was just an exhibition game I'd much rather see our players resting up on a week where you have one less recovery/preperation day than usual. I know the club didn't organise the testimonial but I'm sure they gave the green light on the date. These are such small points that it's almost not worth mentioning but all of these things add up. We should be doing everything as a club to ensure that by 10pm on a Saturday we have 2 points in the bag. Losing a couple more games before the new year and the league title is gone again before we even get to January. We can still recover, but don't see it happening because of the lack of urgency or appreciation as to how quickly our season is disintegrating. I'd love nothing more than for the club to read this message and turn it around purely to spite me but if the MK defeat, Scotland defeats, Sheffield defeat and Belfast defeat didn't spark a reaction there's no chance little old me will spark a reaction. Spot on post Stratty. Like i said yesterday our players are sick to death of having to do so much off ice crap,it’s been like it for years. Cherno should be saying NO Gary my players need rest, not having to go to another school,rspca,MacDonalds restaurant,quiz night,butchers shop,meet the players evening,awards night,daft photo shoot, etc etc etc. They have a wall chart of events outside the dressing room and they take one look and go oh for gods sake this is ridiculous. I know they do,our players have told me many times ! Still a calendar is nice,much more important than winning eh ? Get the players to go the RSPCA one afternoon,get some mug firm to sponsor it (ie pay to print the calendar) then thank you very much we’ll sell a 1000 of those at £10 or £12 a pop and we’ll pocket all the money say Panthers. But hey ho this team never makes much profit ! Mmmmm ! 🙄 While these days off is too much and they should be resting after practice/gym etc, NHL teams have community days out too and they play a dam sight more than we do and they fly all over.
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Post by iginla on Nov 1, 2018 11:33:58 GMT
Spot on post Stratty. Like i said yesterday our players are sick to death of having to do so much off ice crap,it’s been like it for years. Cherno should be saying NO Gary my players need rest, not having to go to another school,rspca,MacDonalds restaurant,quiz night,butchers shop,meet the players evening,awards night,daft photo shoot, etc etc etc. They have a wall chart of events outside the dressing room and they take one look and go oh for gods sake this is ridiculous. I know they do,our players have told me many times ! Still a calendar is nice,much more important than winning eh ? Get the players to go the RSPCA one afternoon,get some mug firm to sponsor it (ie pay to print the calendar) then thank you very much we’ll sell a 1000 of those at £10 or £12 a pop and we’ll pocket all the money say Panthers. But hey ho this team never makes much profit ! Mmmmm ! 🙄 While these days off is too much and they should be resting after practice/gym etc, NHL teams have community days out too and they play a dam sight more than we do and they fly all over. Yeah and they have an unlimited supply of players Pidge. When was the last time the Detroit Red Wings played a short bench because somebody was injured or had to go home ? What would they have done if Jon Rheault was on their roster ?
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Post by Karl on Nov 1, 2018 11:34:38 GMT
We aren't past the point of no return but we aren't far away and on the face of it the club aren't doing all that much to remedy the situation. That visit to the RSPCA last week, sure you get a few good pictures but honestly where was the value in that for the players. The players should either but working their backsides off on the ice or gym or if fatigue is a factor in the dip in form then they should be resting up rather that having to spend a few hours pandering to our Marketing/PR department. Why was Stevie Lee's testimonial played on a week we have a Friday night game? If the fixtures changed after the date was confirmed then fair enough but again even though it was just an exhibition game I'd much rather see our players resting up on a week where you have one less recovery/preperation day than usual. I know the club didn't organise the testimonial but I'm sure they gave the green light on the date. These are such small points that it's almost not worth mentioning but all of these things add up. We should be doing everything as a club to ensure that by 10pm on a Saturday we have 2 points in the bag. Losing a couple more games before the new year and the league title is gone again before we even get to January. We can still recover, but don't see it happening because of the lack of urgency or appreciation as to how quickly our season is disintegrating. I'd love nothing more than for the club to read this message and turn it around purely to spite me but if the MK defeat, Scotland defeats, Sheffield defeat and Belfast defeat didn't spark a reaction there's no chance little old me will spark a reaction. Spot on post Stratty. Like i said yesterday our players are sick to death of having to do so much off ice crap,it’s been like it for years. Cherno should be saying NO Gary my players need rest, not having to go to another school,rspca,MacDonalds restaurant,quiz night,butchers shop,meet the players evening,awards night,daft photo shoot, etc etc etc. They have a wall chart of events outside the dressing room and they take one look and go oh for gods sake this is ridiculous. I know they do,our players have told me many times ! Still a calendar is nice,much more important than winning eh ? Get the players to go the RSPCA one afternoon,get some mug firm to sponsor it (ie pay to print the calendar) then thank you very much we’ll sell a 1000 of those at £10 or £12 a pop and we’ll pocket all the money say Panthers. But hey ho this team never makes much profit ! Mmmmm ! 🙄 They are professional sports players mate, that by requirement means some kind of community and fan engaging activities. The RSPCA visit was an hour of their time... that’s hardly breaking the bank. Regarding visiting sponsors, there has to be some kind of player engagement to the sponsors to make it worthwhile them sponsoring the club. It seems to me you just have an issue with the club making money? That seems to be a popular theme amongst a lot of fans at the moment. What is wrong with a business pushing to make more money? We have two extra imports at the momen with the likelihood of more on the wayt, something has to house them, pay them, provide them with kit and vehicles. The issue we have is the EIHL isn’t a pushover league anymore where the big teams have a divine right to win. Even Cardiff will drop points along the way. Cardiff got their recruitment right three years ago and have retained that core of players for three seasons now and it shows. Our team is 80% new.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2018 11:38:07 GMT
While these days off is too much and they should be resting after practice/gym etc, NHL teams have community days out too and they play a dam sight more than we do and they fly all over. Yeah and they have an unlimited supply of players Pidge. When was the last time the Detroit Red Wings played a short bench because somebody was injured or had to go home ? What would they have done if Jon Rheault was on their roster ? Tbh Iggy 2 days ago against Columbus we ran with 11 towards when we had a couple hurt prior to the game, but yes we normally call players up from Grand Rapids.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 1, 2018 11:39:55 GMT
We aren't past the point of no return but we aren't far away and on the face of it the club aren't doing all that much to remedy the situation. That visit to the RSPCA last week, sure you get a few good pictures but honestly where was the value in that for the players. The players should either but working their backsides off on the ice or gym or if fatigue is a factor in the dip in form then they should be resting up rather that having to spend a few hours pandering to our Marketing/PR department. Why was Stevie Lee's testimonial played on a week we have a Friday night game? If the fixtures changed after the date was confirmed then fair enough but again even though it was just an exhibition game I'd much rather see our players resting up on a week where you have one less recovery/preperation day than usual. I know the club didn't organise the testimonial but I'm sure they gave the green light on the date. These are such small points that it's almost not worth mentioning but all of these things add up. We should be doing everything as a club to ensure that by 10pm on a Saturday we have 2 points in the bag. Losing a couple more games before the new year and the league title is gone again before we even get to January. We can still recover, but don't see it happening because of the lack of urgency or appreciation as to how quickly our season is disintegrating. I'd love nothing more than for the club to read this message and turn it around purely to spite me but if the MK defeat, Scotland defeats, Sheffield defeat and Belfast defeat didn't spark a reaction there's no chance little old me will spark a reaction. Spot on post Stratty. Like i said yesterday our players are sick to death of having to do so much off ice crap,it’s been like it for years. Cherno should be saying NO Gary my players need rest, not having to go to another school,rspca,MacDonalds restaurant,quiz night,butchers shop,meet the players evening,awards night,daft photo shoot, etc etc etc. They have a wall chart of events outside the dressing room and they take one look and go oh for gods sake this is ridiculous. I know they do,our players have told me many times ! Still a calendar is nice,much more important than winning eh ? Get the players to go the RSPCA one afternoon,get some mug firm to sponsor it (ie pay to print the calendar) then thank you very much we’ll sell a 1000 of those at £10 or £12 a pop and we’ll pocket all the money say Panthers. But hey ho this team never makes much profit ! Mmmmm ! 🙄 Think the calendar is a charity thing isn't it, for the autism charity we're supporting? I've never been interested in meeting the players, but the odd event doesn't seem too much to ask to me, and certainly no excuse for recent form.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 1, 2018 12:13:05 GMT
Yes, and the fan reaction here hasn't been as bad as it was for Shuff. Yet again, you fail to engage the point. Not really I get the point quite clearly thanks. They were losing games left right and centre with a team short on quality signed by Thommo. The moaning was justified. On here there's moaning for moaning sake. I've said it once and I ll say it again but this team has the quality. THEY NEED TO WORK HARDER! attack as a team and defend as a team both ends of the ice. One incline and impression I get is Rich may be very lets say brash before before closed doors and at training and perhaps the players ain't responding. Like I say it's something that I've thought for a while which could be reasonable for the recent bad run . Unable to motivate his players? Sounds familiar. Unlike you to criticise Cherno, the worm turning?
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Post by Mozzy on Nov 1, 2018 12:22:42 GMT
I thought Kopriva saved Coventry from a beating last night, Steelers created a lot of chances but didn’t take them. Same situation with ginn when we beat the mancs 2-1. We ll see who they bring in (if they do)! Westerling has hardly improved things 😂 What we saw last night was a team fighting for everything, leaving everything they had on the ice. You could see what that win meant to them with the celebration on the bench when O'Connor won it. The way we started and the players we recruited, we can't ask for any more. They are slowly turning things around. There are 2 empty roster slots on the forward lines, whilst the well won't be overflowing I trust Barrasso to find the players we need. Winning breeds confidence and we have been very low on it. A never say die attitude, a little bit more confidence and some extra quality in those 2 slots and we can achieve respectability and be a threat in the cups this year. I for one are pretty happy with the direction we are starting to go now. It's a far cry from the last weeks of Thompson.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Nov 1, 2018 12:26:50 GMT
Not really I get the point quite clearly thanks. They were losing games left right and centre with a team short on quality signed by Thommo. The moaning was justified. On here there's moaning for moaning sake. I've said it once and I ll say it again but this team has the quality. THEY NEED TO WORK HARDER! attack as a team and defend as a team both ends of the ice. One incline and impression I get is Rich may be very lets say brash before before closed doors and at training and perhaps the players ain't responding. Like I say it's something that I've thought for a while which could be reasonable for the recent bad run . Unable to motivate his players? Sounds familiar. Unlike you to criticise Cherno, the worm turning? I’m a critic too. If he can’t fix a problem that’s happening time after time you have to ask what he’s up to. Periods off, supposedly not sticking to the plan, giving away comfortable leads, overtime losses. It’s getting boring in its regularity to be honest. We haven’t lost a single game yet where we left it all on the ice. We are just getting good at losing. His record so far I’m afraid is utter crap and I’m still waiting to see how he’s going to turn it around.
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Post by iginla on Nov 1, 2018 12:32:34 GMT
Spot on post Stratty. Like i said yesterday our players are sick to death of having to do so much off ice crap,it’s been like it for years. Cherno should be saying NO Gary my players need rest, not having to go to another school,rspca,MacDonalds restaurant,quiz night,butchers shop,meet the players evening,awards night,daft photo shoot, etc etc etc. They have a wall chart of events outside the dressing room and they take one look and go oh for gods sake this is ridiculous. I know they do,our players have told me many times ! Still a calendar is nice,much more important than winning eh ? Get the players to go the RSPCA one afternoon,get some mug firm to sponsor it (ie pay to print the calendar) then thank you very much we’ll sell a 1000 of those at £10 or £12 a pop and we’ll pocket all the money say Panthers. But hey ho this team never makes much profit ! Mmmmm ! 🙄 They are professional sports players mate, that by requirement means some kind of community and fan engaging activities. The RSPCA visit was an hour of their time... that’s hardly breaking the bank. Regarding visiting sponsors, there has to be some kind of player engagement to the sponsors to make it worthwhile them sponsoring the club. It seems to me you just have an issue with the club making money? That seems to be a popular theme amongst a lot of fans at the moment. What is wrong with a business pushing to make more money? We have two extra imports at the momen with the likelihood of more on the wayt, something has to house them, pay them, provide them with kit and vehicles. The issue we have is the EIHL isn’t a pushover league anymore where the big teams have a divine right to win. Even Cardiff will drop points along the way. Cardiff got their recruitment right three years ago and have retained that core of players for three seasons now and it shows. Our team is 80% new. Let’s be perfectly clear and blunt,I have absolutely no problem with Panthers making money. What I do have a massive problem with is Panthers priorities and the amount of money that they DON’T spend on quality players when the so easily could. We’ve been here before and it’s been said many times,but without even denting the profits much Panthers could put a team on the ice that would win the league comfortably,but they choose not to. That made me feel like i was being duped,taken for a mug and like I was watching something false so I’ve pretty much stopped attending now. I still keep up to date and watch from afar though in the vain hope that they might change their attitude one day. Instead they bumble along year on year,same things happen,we tail away and end up 4th or 5th. I said directly to Mr Black at the Q+A a couple of years ago,and Black did not disagree or even seek to argue it that,there is one league table that Panthers will always be bottom of by a considerable distance. That is the hypothetical league table that would show the % of their income each team spends on players......with Panthers rock bottom of it by a long long way. Mr Black did not even try to argue or defend it in any way,he just smiled smugly and didn’t know what to say. Says it all for me.
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