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Post by spik on Aug 31, 2018 16:59:31 GMT
NB) Carnell pointed out for me an error in net minder stats because of one game where wrong goal tender used as calculation....
Carnell,
Indeed, shall have to stop sending you those GRS sheets.lol One netty chosen over the other in one game here.soz. Working on paper not good, glad I won't have to do this for the domestic part of the season.
I won't retire just yet. Had a bad week when I lost my dog of 14 years, head not right In suppose.
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Post by allingtonskates on Sept 3, 2018 22:23:32 GMT
Regards table above (from Spence's message). Your correct 'Spence' (Guptill also omitted one goal) it's just a miss when typing, the format in which a table is constructed on here and the way you can enter detail has changed or my new computer has, making it more a chore.I am checking the number of assist/Pims too against everything now. The other point is that what is stated when games are played can be different to a GRS once signed and I have to keep to those. But thanks for keeping me on my toes, we want to see it right. EDIT: All games/goals/ assists/Pims total ok now. * no errorsRissling with 3 goals but no points?
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Post by spik on Sept 4, 2018 10:01:37 GMT
Regards table above (from Spence's message). Your correct 'Spence' (Guptill also omitted one goal) it's just a miss when typing, the format in which a table is constructed on here and the way you can enter detail has changed or my new computer has, making it more a chore.I am checking the number of assist/Pims too against everything now. The other point is that what is stated when games are played can be different to a GRS once signed and I have to keep to those. But thanks for keeping me on my toes, we want to see it right. EDIT: All games/goals/ assists/Pims total ok now. * no errorsRissling with 3 goals but no points?
As I've mentioned the table creation is causing some difficulties this time round, thanks for attention to this and letting me know but please PM (anyone) to limit quotes in messages which is extending the 'read' as it were.You can see it's playing up at the moment.I'm not very tech and sometimes adding up is ok but fingers a bit lapse.
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Post by spik on Sept 14, 2018 21:32:53 GMT
Back from a lovely holiday away and have updated most here. Have a good weekend folks.
Just a quick 'heads up' here. When you look on the official Elite site at the stats there. Either on Cup or League the SCHEDULE will only show the final score eg) 2-1. Not if an overtime game by showing 2-1ot as an example. Click on that score and find the drop down BOX option and when you go into that the GAME SHEET will finally show if the overtime period was in OT or if a SO game decider. As the OT shown anywhere else just relates to 'overtime period' but not if OT played or Penalty shots taken.
One other thing to know is that the Gam esheet may look complete but give it a while as stats look odd but what seems complete figures arrived at, they get added to if the game (to them) is still 'in progress'.
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Post by spik on Sept 16, 2018 20:29:41 GMT
Parts 1-3,5,6,7 and 8 updated as will be per match results. Stephen Lee is now 'stand alone' 6th in all time appearances now with 548 games played.
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Post by spik on Sept 19, 2018 18:48:51 GMT
Part 11 Suspensions and injuries by YOTES has been updated.
Remember, we have lost Kelsall and thus the number of Brits has reduced to 8.Thereby with Hazledine not used regularly of recent, that number reduces to 7 as stated.Full compliment of Imports 14 at present.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2018 21:21:23 GMT
Cardiff go second in the League. By taking 1pt Nottingham stay in the hunt for the Cup. tables updated etc.. Think you've got Panthers & Storm the wrong way round. Storm now have 4 points, Panthers 3.
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Post by spik on Oct 3, 2018 21:26:06 GMT
Cardiff go second in the League. By taking 1pt Nottingham stay in the hunt for the Cup. tables updated etc.. Think you've got Panthers & Storm the wrong way round. Storm now have 4 points, Panthers 3. Indeed I did. Normally check before throwing in a thread message. I'm still doing the player stats also at the moment too. Rushed job that would have been corrected later but earlier than normal from your message ...ta. But can people PM me this info.
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Post by spik on Oct 8, 2018 18:18:44 GMT
Guillaum Lepine moves into 10th place all-time as regards Pims when playing for the Nottingham Panthers. 5 ahead of Stephen Lee and 41 behind Matt Myers.
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Post by bobness on Oct 12, 2018 16:51:03 GMT
Well, it's 10 league games into the season, and here's some choice stats for you. (Most are based on the EIHL game sheets, but some are my own generation as the game sheets are clearly wrong (e.g. players clearly on the ice but not recorded as such, and one instance, Pither being recorded as on the ice for a PPG conceded when he was in the penalty box...)) Any errors you think there are, let me know.
Panthers have scored 32 goals, with 53 assists. 27 goals conceded. Those 32 have been 6 slapshots, 1 backhand, 1 deflection and the rest wrist/snap shots. The forwards have scored 27 of those goals, 4 from the Dmen, and 1 PS. The Dmen have 8 assists. Olsen is the top scoring D with 1+3, but leader of the Dmen, and the team overall, on +/- is Stevie Lee with +4, well in front. Monsieur Lepine is currently bringing up the rear on -3 (of the Dmen). Biggs "leads" the team on -5. Panthers are outscoring the opposition 21-19 at even strength, with 1 ENG conceded. It's 10-6 on the PP, with 1 SHG conceded, none scored. By period, total goals are 7-5, 10-9 and 14-13 respectively. So far, 9 man games have been lost due to injury, 3 to suspension. Most "in the game" player is Guptill so far, leads the team in both +s and -s, with 10 and 9 respectively. Panthers are 10/45 on the PP so far, 22.22%, having spent 3807 seconds on the PP. All PPGs have been 5 on 4 so far. Average time for a PPG to be scored is 48.5 seconds, fastest was 4 seconds, and 5 have been scored in less than 30 seconds. Panthers have killed 37 of 43 SH situations, spending 4,242 seconds on the PK. All PPGs conceded have been 5 on 4, average time taken to concede is 44 seconds. Panthers have not conceded a PPG in the last 30 seconds of a PP yet. Biggs is cold (no goal since game 3), as is Hurtubise (10 points in the first 5 games, 2 in the next 5), but Perlini is hot (5 of his 6 points on the year in the last 4 games). The "big" line of 15/21/27 has 8 points in the last 5 games, after 26 in the first 5.
That should spark some debate...
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Post by spik on Oct 13, 2018 16:11:10 GMT
Plenty to chew on there from 'bobness'.....but what I'd like to know Bob is, what GRS (from the OS?) were wrong. Though I get the Official Elite stats it would be interesting to know if those faults are corrected later on.
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Post by spik on Oct 18, 2018 22:54:54 GMT
In part 3 Players stats you will see a difference from the Elite's stats to mine.
- Numbers in brackets indicates Elites stats....that differ from their OWN GRS from their OS I can only assume the GRS changed after games. Will investigate.
eg) Can anyone remember Hurtubise and Tetlow missing a game? ..and how many has Vankleef played thus far?
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Post by Carnell on Oct 19, 2018 7:53:50 GMT
In part 3 Players stats you will see a difference from the Elite's stats to mine. - Numbers in brackets indicates Elites stats....that differ from their OWN GRS from their OS I can only assume the GRS changed after games. Will investigate. eg) Can anyone remember Hurtubise and Tetlow missing a game? ..and how many has Vankleef played thus far? Vankleef has played 8 games so far, the other two have dressed for all games.
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Post by spik on Oct 19, 2018 8:47:51 GMT
In part 3 Players stats you will see a difference from the Elite's stats to mine. - Numbers in brackets indicates Elites stats....that differ from their OWN GRS from their OS I can only assume the GRS changed after games. Will investigate. eg) Can anyone remember Hurtubise and Tetlow missing a game? ..and how many has Vankleef played thus far? Vankleef has played 8 games so far, the other two have dressed for all games. Thank you....I knew I wasn't going mad.But they can change things in this sport after a game so often. I can believe that a player may have not been icing yet on the game sheet (I've seen some things over the years)...but we know our team. Then again anyone can get things wrong which is why I double check and appreciate people putting me right. May have some new stats from BOBNESS soon folks.
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Post by spik on Oct 24, 2018 18:27:58 GMT
Two points here re part THREE in this thread.
1) The Elite Official stats have agreed that 'our' games played totals were correct and they have amended theirs. Nice that they have appreciated the email I sent and thanked us.
2) A new addition to the cage's PLAYER STATS. The 'bobness' plus/minus factor has been added to show when a player is 'on ice' when either a goal is scored for us or against us.
- more to follow.
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Post by spik on Oct 25, 2018 9:56:34 GMT
Some more of 'bobness'
In the League by Oct 25th
Overtime wins in OT/PS have all been AWAY. Overtime losses home/away - none
Goals at home 16 GF v GA 11 Goals away are GF 32 v GA 38 so total of 48 GF and 49 GA.
Our goals Wrist/snap shot 36 (79%) slap shot 6 (13%) backhand 4 (8%) deflection/tip 2 (4%)
Powerplay goals 13 v 12 against.....22.93pp% Short handed goals 0 v 2 against.....82.89pk%
Of our 48 goals 33 scored even strength 0 4 on 4 1 3 on 3
PPG 6 on 4 1 5 on 4 12 5 on 3 0 4 on 3 0
eng 5 on 6 0
shg eng 4 on 6 0 shg 4 on 5 0
ps 1
of the 49 goals scored against us 33 5 on 5 5 on 4 pp 10 5 0n 3 pp 1 4 on 3 pp 1 eng 5 on 6 2 shg 4 on 5 2 others all 0
NOW THAT'S STATS
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Post by bobness on Oct 26, 2018 8:41:47 GMT
Just for the sake of clarity, the +/- that I work out starts at the league gamesheets, but I look at the video of every goal to make sure the sheets are correct. Of the 97 goals scored for or against, I've made "corrections" to 15 so far, so I wouldn't be believing the EIHL stats too much. The most wrong so far has one of our PPG against, on which the game sheet got 3 of the 4 on-ice players wrong. (This one doesn't affect +/-, I know, but most of the errors do.) And I know +/- isn't exactly the most robust statistic ever, but at the moment, it's basically all we have, unless someone wants to do icetime, shot attempts etc off their own back.
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Post by spik on Oct 28, 2018 19:17:38 GMT
Well, there's the first dropped place after a home defeat from 2-0 up.Be assured of more downhill movement soon.
Cardiff , however, consolidate 3rd place now,Fife go top with Belfast just behind.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 28, 2018 21:06:12 GMT
Cardiff v Coventry tonight was Cup spik
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Post by spik on Oct 29, 2018 10:06:01 GMT
Cardiff v Coventry tonight was Cup spik I knew what the message was before I opened it. Cam on to make change.....too much 'excitement' at the Halloween party yesterday.
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Post by spik on Oct 29, 2018 10:21:14 GMT
Taking Milton Keynes FOUR POINTS away from their Group total (the Coventry wins) in order to re-align the 3 groups equally. It looks like it's a lost cause to qualify for the next round of matches in the CUP.
On a quick calculation it seems MK are out before their last match. I hope I've got that right, as Guildford would have beaten MK in this first round league breakdown as both would have 2 points between them.......yet Guildford a better overall standing per tie qualification breakdown.
MK would have to beat Guildford in regulation first of all and even after that beat Glasgow (who'd be equal on a final 2 points from their own league) on the next qualification tie breaker.
A regulation win gives them a final 2 points like Glasgow , so.....the qualification is dependent upon the tie breaker system (below) determining who goes through.
The one with the 'most'.... after....i. .......points.It would be 2 each as stated. ii. Most number of games won in regulation time. One each iii. Most number of games won (regulation, overtime and penalties). Thus looks like Glasgow will take it.
Thereafter it is....
iv. The results of games played between the relevant teams by applying points won, games won in regulation time, all games won (regulation time/overtime/penalties), in that order of priority. Not applicable due to the group stage nature of the event
v. Fewest regulation losses.
vi. Using away games: – points won, games won in regulation time, all games won (regulation time/overtime/penalties), in that order of priority.
vii. Goals scored.
viii. Goal Difference
ix. Fewest Penalty Minutes (Fair Play)
x. In the unlikely event of teams still being equal, teams will be ranked by the drawing of lots. Any prize monies determined by the position in a league or group by this means will be shared equally by the tying teams.
xi. Where a group of two or more teams is tied, then whenever a team can be eliminated due to the above order of priority, it shall be, by applying each of the above stages in order of such priority.
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Post by spik on Nov 4, 2018 20:14:56 GMT
CUP.. The 9th placed team from all 9 qualifiers (from the 3 groups) was MK Kings - because after extraction of points from both groups bottom placed sides (Coventry and Fife).....they failed to continue into the quarter finals due to being the least points gained team.
Qualifiers are 1.Belfast, 2.Cardiff, 3.Guildford, 4.Nottingham, 5.Sheffield, 6.Manchester, 7.Dundee and 8.Glasgow.
Chosen opponents for... Belfast were Dundee Cardiff were Glasgow Nottingham were Manchester Sheffield and Guildford were the remaining pair for the quarter finals draw.
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Post by spik on Nov 6, 2018 19:57:26 GMT
More 'bobness' facts on stats
POINTS home 10 AWAY 6 in games WON ...of 16 taken POINTS home 0 AWAY 2 in gamesvOTW ...of 2 taken POINTS home 0 AWAY 2in games PSW ...of 2 taken POINTS home 1 AWAY 1 in games OTL ...of 2 taken
GAMES WON at Home 5 and 3 AWAY of 8 GAMES OTW at Home 0 and 1 AWAY of 1 GAMES PSW at Home 0 and 1 AWAY of 1 GAMES Lost at Home 1 and 5 Away of 6 Games OTL at Home 1 and 1 Away of 2 GAMES PSL at Home 0 and 0 Away of 0
Home goals 21 GF 16 GA GPG 3.0 GA 2.3 Even 11-11 Odd 10-6
Away goals 33 GF 40 GA GPG 3.0 GA 3.6 Even 27-28 Odd 6-12
OUR scoring goals Wrist/Snap 41 76% Slap 7 13% Backhand 4 7% Deflection/tip 2 4%
Projection points haul for league at present 77.1
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Post by wgray on Nov 9, 2018 18:38:59 GMT
Just for the sake of clarity, the +/- that I work out starts at the league gamesheets, but I look at the video of every goal to make sure the sheets are correct. Of the 97 goals scored for or against, I've made "corrections" to 15 so far, so I wouldn't be believing the EIHL stats too much. The most wrong so far has one of our PPG against, on which the game sheet got 3 of the 4 on-ice players wrong. (This one doesn't affect +/-, I know, but most of the errors do.) And I know +/- isn't exactly the most robust statistic ever, but at the moment, it's basically all we have, unless someone wants to do icetime, shot attempts etc off their own back. Bobness, are you making a record of the correct points records for our players? I know you mentioned on another thread that the EIHL stats from our game against Cardiff were wrong, they’ve still not been changed and it’s not the first time stats have been incorrectly recorded. In our game against Fife their are assists missing off some of our goals, I know they use the game sheets but surely they can watch the highlights back to confirm.
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Post by bobness on Nov 9, 2018 19:57:37 GMT
Just for the sake of clarity, the +/- that I work out starts at the league gamesheets, but I look at the video of every goal to make sure the sheets are correct. Of the 97 goals scored for or against, I've made "corrections" to 15 so far, so I wouldn't be believing the EIHL stats too much. The most wrong so far has one of our PPG against, on which the game sheet got 3 of the 4 on-ice players wrong. (This one doesn't affect +/-, I know, but most of the errors do.) And I know +/- isn't exactly the most robust statistic ever, but at the moment, it's basically all we have, unless someone wants to do icetime, shot attempts etc off their own back. Bobness, are you making a record of the correct points records for our players? I know you mentioned on another thread that the EIHL stats from our game against Cardiff were wrong, they’ve still not been changed and it’s not the first time stats have been incorrectly recorded. In our game against Fife their are assists missing off some of our goals, I know they use the game sheets but surely they can watch the highlights back to confirm. The +/- is corrected but not the points. As said, Farmer had a Tony Hand assist on Biggs’s goal vs Devils last Sunday. He want even anywhere near on the ice. Vs Fife, Perlini has the assist when it’s 100% Kovacs on one of Pither’s goals. I guess you can only go by the game sheet? Maybe I’ll try and sanitise points too, at some stage.
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