|
|
Post by thebestpanthers on May 23, 2018 16:14:05 GMT
Iginla, in the nicest possible way, give the Panthers a chance to even come up with a plan for what they’re doing before jumping all over them. You’re already taking over the thread bashing them and they’ve not even had a chance! This was the best outcome for the league all things considered. I have no issues with the new structure. It makes complete sense and we can just enjoy a pre league format. It’ll make the games against Sheffield that little bit more competitive and, as someone has said, another trip to the Skydome is always a bonus for me. Ok I will give them a chance. Then I will jump all over them. 🤣 So, if I read that right, you will complain no matter what they do - just about sums you up - complain for the sake of complaining !!!! P.S. Read the article from the club re Pro Rata ticket prices - but I doubt that will satisfy you |
|
BigLad
David Clarke
TWITTER: @AntMJ11
Posts: 3,585
|
Post by BigLad on May 23, 2018 19:33:35 GMT
Well done Panthers.
Would've been nice to get them for free but that was never gonna happen. Can't fault the pricing structure announced at all.
|
|
iginla
Chick Zamick
Posts: 13,424
|
Post by iginla on May 23, 2018 20:19:47 GMT
Ok I will give them a chance. Then I will jump all over them. 🤣 So, if I read that right, you will complain no matter what they do - just about sums you up - complain for the sake of complaining !!!! P.S. Read the article from the club re Pro Rata ticket prices - but I doubt that will satisfy you No that’s not what I meant. If they had said half price or even up to £10 a ticket I would have had no problem,but I knew they wouldn’t do that. They’ve actually been very clever and made the core fans think they’re getting a bargain,when if your a season ticket holder they’re actually giving you no discount whatsoever on your normal price. If your not a season ticket holder your paying your normal full price too. Not even the usual measly “one pound discount” for anybody.....nothing,zero,zilch. Unless,later they announce that non season tickets will get a discount.....they havnt said that bit,clever of them eh. Imagine being a season ticket holder and paying your normal price,only to find the guy with a one off ticket did get a discount ! So at the end of the day,nobody gets a discount,even though Panthers just pocketed an extra £100k ish. Black must be loving Edinburgh’s demise !!! |
|
|
|
Post by pantherlee on May 23, 2018 21:14:32 GMT
So, if I read that right, you will complain no matter what they do - just about sums you up - complain for the sake of complaining !!!! P.S. Read the article from the club re Pro Rata ticket prices - but I doubt that will satisfy you No that’s not what I meant. If they had said half price or even up to £10 a ticket I would have had no problem,but I knew they wouldn’t do that. They’ve actually been very clever and made the core fans think they’re getting a bargain,when if your a season ticket holder they’re actually giving you no discount whatsoever on your normal price. If your not a season ticket holder your paying your normal full price too. Not even the usual measly “one pound discount” for anybody.....nothing,zero,zilch. Unless,later they announce that non season tickets will get a discount.....they havnt said that bit,clever of them eh. Imagine being a season ticket holder and paying your normal price,only to find the guy with a one off ticket did get a discount ! So at the end of the day,nobody gets a discount,even though Panthers just pocketed an extra £100k ish. Black must be loving Edinburgh’s demise !!! Why would there be a discount for non season ticket holders? At the end of the day it just another two games people can either choose to attend or not. The only problem this bought was for season ticket holders who now have an extra two games which have now been priced fairly. This is just another example of you panther bashing again as you seem unable to anything else in any thread regardless of its topic. Either that or you're just cheap and want something for nothing |
|
iginla
Chick Zamick
Posts: 13,424
|
Post by iginla on May 23, 2018 21:31:30 GMT
No that’s not what I meant. If they had said half price or even up to £10 a ticket I would have had no problem,but I knew they wouldn’t do that. They’ve actually been very clever and made the core fans think they’re getting a bargain,when if your a season ticket holder they’re actually giving you no discount whatsoever on your normal price. If your not a season ticket holder your paying your normal full price too. Not even the usual measly “one pound discount” for anybody.....nothing,zero,zilch. Unless,later they announce that non season tickets will get a discount.....they havnt said that bit,clever of them eh. Imagine being a season ticket holder and paying your normal price,only to find the guy with a one off ticket did get a discount ! So at the end of the day,nobody gets a discount,even though Panthers just pocketed an extra £100k ish. Black must be loving Edinburgh’s demise !!! Why would there be a discount for non season ticket holders? At the end of the day it just another two games people can either choose to attend or not. The only problem this bought was for season ticket holders who now have an extra two games which have now been priced fairly. This is just another example of you panther bashing again as you seem unable to anything else in any thread regardless of its topic. Either that or you're just cheap and want something for nothing To me it’s all about Panthers actually doing something to reward the fans for once. This is supposed to be the “new era” so wouldn’t you think just for once they might have said to the fans,there you go by way of appreciation have a couple of extra games on us for say £8 or £10 a ticket,because after all we’re making more money from two extra games. But they can’t seem to ever do that,even in a strange circumstance like this one. Personally I couldn’t care less what they do,because I won’t be watching,I’m just giving my opinion of what I believe they should do. I can’t really believe though that it seems people thought ooh great that’s very good of Panthers letting me have my ticket at my normal price as if they thought they were getting a great deal or something. Normally the more you buy of something the price gets cheaper ! |
|
|
|
Post by cjones on May 23, 2018 21:38:18 GMT
Why would there be a discount for non season ticket holders? At the end of the day it just another two games people can either choose to attend or not. The only problem this bought was for season ticket holders who now have an extra two games which have now been priced fairly. This is just another example of you panther bashing again as you seem unable to anything else in any thread regardless of its topic. Either that or you're just cheap and want something for nothing To me it’s all about Panthers actually doing something to reward the fans for once. This is supposed to be the “new era” so wouldn’t you think just for once they might have said to the fans,there you go by way of appreciation have a couple of extra games on us for say £8 or £10 a ticket,because after all we’re making more money from two extra games. But they can’t seem to ever do that,even in a strange circumstance like this one. Personally I couldn’t care less what they do,because I won’t be watching,I’m just giving my opinion of what I believe they should do. I can’t really believe though that it seems people thought ooh great that’s very good of Panthers letting me have my ticket at my normal price as if they thought they were getting a great deal or something. Normally the more you buy of something the price gets cheaper ! I don’t understand why people think they should get a better deal on the 2 extra games than the deal they already get for a season tickets? |
|
|
|
Post by pantherlee on May 23, 2018 21:42:08 GMT
For me theres nothing wrong with the prices for these extra two games. They are league games and panthers is a business as well as an ice hockey club. You say Black must be laughing but i bet you'd do the same in that position if it were your business. Where you might have a point about cheaper tickets and the "one pound discount" joke is the pre-season games. Thats when there should be real cheap tickets going at say £5 a seat throughout the whole arena
|
|
iginla
Chick Zamick
Posts: 13,424
|
Post by iginla on May 23, 2018 22:05:38 GMT
For me theres nothing wrong with the prices for these extra two games. They are league games and panthers is a business as well as an ice hockey club. You say Black must be laughing but i bet you'd do the same in that position if it were your business. Where you might have a point about cheaper tickets and the "one pound discount" joke is the pre-season games. Thats when there should be real cheap tickets going at say £5 a seat throughout the whole arena And that’s my point,it doesn’t ever,ever,ever seem to occur to Panthers that they should do something meaningful for the fans. But as you say,even for pre season or lesser midweek games the best your’e probably going to get is a stingy “one pound discount”. Wow a whole pound.....might as well not bother ! Sheffield do it for their fans. Maybe that’s why their average crowd increased again,despite quite a few horribly low crowds at Ice Sheffield,where as Panthers average crowd actually decreased last season ! |
|
|
|
Post by The Cat's Whiskers on May 23, 2018 22:28:43 GMT
For me theres nothing wrong with the prices for these extra two games. They are league games and panthers is a business as well as an ice hockey club. You say Black must be laughing but i bet you'd do the same in that position if it were your business. Where you might have a point about cheaper tickets and the "one pound discount" joke is the pre-season games. Thats when there should be real cheap tickets going at say £5 a seat throughout the whole arena And that’s my point,it doesn’t ever,ever,ever seem to occur to Panthers that they should do something meaningful for the fans. But as you say,even for pre season or lesser midweek games the best your’e probably going to get is a stingy “one pound discount”. Wow a whole pound.....might as well not bother ! Sheffield do it for their fans. Maybe that’s why their average crowd increased again,despite quite a few horribly low crowds at Ice Sheffield,where as Panthers average crowd actually decreased last season ! You’re absolutely right Iginla, Sheffield do it for their fans. They charge £375 for an early bird season ticket, the same as a Panthers early bird silver season ticket. Thing is, their season ticket is only for 25 games. Maybe do a bit of research before spouting your usual anti-Panthers BS eh? |
|
iginla
Chick Zamick
Posts: 13,424
|
Post by iginla on May 23, 2018 23:16:51 GMT
And that’s my point,it doesn’t ever,ever,ever seem to occur to Panthers that they should do something meaningful for the fans. But as you say,even for pre season or lesser midweek games the best your’e probably going to get is a stingy “one pound discount”. Wow a whole pound.....might as well not bother ! Sheffield do it for their fans. Maybe that’s why their average crowd increased again,despite quite a few horribly low crowds at Ice Sheffield,where as Panthers average crowd actually decreased last season ! You’re absolutely right Iginla, Sheffield do it for their fans. They charge £375 for an early bird season ticket, the same as a Panthers early bird silver season ticket. Thing is, their season ticket is only for 25 games. Maybe do a bit of research before spouting your usual anti-Panthers BS eh? But when you consider Sheffield’s fans are usually kept interested until late March and Panthers league season is usually over by the end of January I’d say their ticket is far better value. Perhaps it’s you who should do a little extra research eh ! 😂 |
|
Yotes
Forum Admin 
Posts: 16,412
|
Post by Yotes on May 24, 2018 0:10:21 GMT
Should certainly have researched that you'll never admit you're wrong  375 for 25 is Gold price. What do they charge for the other 5 games? |
|
iginla
Chick Zamick
Posts: 13,424
|
Post by iginla on May 24, 2018 7:45:46 GMT
Should certainly have researched that you'll never admit you're wrong 375 for 25 is Gold price. What do they charge for the other 5 games? I was talking special discounts on games and all of a sudden TCW throw in season tickets. Do Sheffield have different prices even,or what is the difference when you take an average of Panthers gold,silver and bronze tickets,or the difference when you get past early bird deadline day. It’s not as straightforward as just picking out “Panthers silver” because it fits the price. I remember last year Steelers doing a Cardiff game for only £5, when did Panthers ever do that ? Panthers fans are lucky to get £1 off a midweek cup game. |
|
|
|
Post by jd on May 24, 2018 9:10:56 GMT
You’re absolutely right Iginla, Sheffield do it for their fans. They charge £375 for an early bird season ticket, the same as a Panthers early bird silver season ticket. Thing is, their season ticket is only for 25 games. Maybe do a bit of research before spouting your usual anti-Panthers BS eh? But when you consider Sheffield’s fans are usually kept interested until late March and Panthers league season is usually over by the end of January I’d say their ticket is far better value. Perhaps it’s you who should do a little extra research eh ! 😂 So if we are in contention for the league till March, our ticket would be ok? |
|
iginla
Chick Zamick
Posts: 13,424
|
Post by iginla on May 24, 2018 10:14:42 GMT
But when you consider Sheffield’s fans are usually kept interested until late March and Panthers league season is usually over by the end of January I’d say their ticket is far better value. Perhaps it’s you who should do a little extra research eh ! 😂 So if we are in contention for the league till March, our ticket would be ok? I was just being sarcastic with that league contention comment. But it would make better value wouldn’t it,instead of fans watching ten or a dozen games where the league has already gone. I just happen to think Panthers should be giving something back to the fans in circumstances like these extra two games instead of continuing to rake in extra money all the time. I’m just sticking up for fans in general here,or at least trying to that’s all,but some people can’t seem to see that. If this extra money was reflected in what Panthers spend it wouldn’t be so bad,but the on ice product seems to remain pretty static no matter how much extra money they rake in. The extra £100k or so income from these extra two games would probably represent a 15-20% slice of our player budget,but will our player budget increase by that margin ? Somehow I very,very much doubt it ! |
|
|
|
Post by brodeurfan1993 on May 24, 2018 10:44:50 GMT
Not sure if anyone has seen the recent Gammon chat that has been circulating......... I think Iginla might somehow fit this
Seen Clint Eastwood play worse cowboys
|
|
Pies
Forum Moderator 
Reluctant Chief of ITK
Posts: 4,879
|
Post by Pies on May 24, 2018 11:23:44 GMT
So if we are in contention for the league till March, our ticket would be ok? I was just being sarcastic with that league contention comment. But it would make better value wouldn’t it,instead of fans watching ten or a dozen games where the league has already gone. I just happen to think Panthers should be giving something back to the fans in circumstances like these extra two games instead of continuing to rake in extra money all the time. I’m just sticking up for fans in general here,or at least trying to that’s all,but some people can’t seem to see that. If this extra money was reflected in what Panthers spend it wouldn’t be so bad,but the on ice product seems to remain pretty static no matter how much extra money they rake in. The extra £100k or so income from these extra two games would probably represent a 15-20% slice of our player budget,but will our player budget increase by that margin ? Somehow I very,very much doubt it ! If we, as the paying customers, are happy, why do you, who has openly admitted isn’t a fan anymore, spending you’re free time worrying? It’s just come to a point where it seems you’re only here to criticise the management, which is your right, but speaking for he paying customer here, we don’t need to read it all the time. |
|
|
|
Post by kievthegreat on May 24, 2018 11:31:59 GMT
In the interests of balance:
Steelers only offer a single price for tickets so it's not straightforward to compare pricing with Panthers as they having different pricing levels.
However on a cost per game basis Steelers charge the same as a gold ticket as Panthers (both £15). Obviously at Panthers you can go and get tickets in Silver and Bronze, saving £1.61 per game and £2.68 per game respectively.
So you can get an equivalent seat (Gold) at Sheffield for the same price as Nottingham. Conversely you could pay the same price at Sheffield and be paying more than you would at Nottingham for an equivalent seat (Bronze and Silver).
|
|
Yotes
Forum Admin
Posts: 16,412
|
Post by Yotes on May 24, 2018 11:52:20 GMT
Should certainly have researched that you'll never admit you're wrong 375 for 25 is Gold price. What do they charge for the other 5 games? I was talking special discounts on games and all of a sudden TCW throw in season tickets. Do Sheffield have different prices even,or what is the difference when you take an average of Panthers gold,silver and bronze tickets,or the difference when you get past early bird deadline day. It’s not as straightforward as just picking out “Panthers silver” because it fits the price. I remember last year Steelers doing a Cardiff game for only £5, when did Panthers ever do that ? Panthers fans are lucky to get £1 off a midweek cup game. The club should do more for things like preseason (I recall Sheffield doing a very good price for that last year), and, IMO, the cup games too (all fans, not just STs). But the discussion was on the 2 games and whether what Panthers have come up with - basically extending your 28 game ticket to cover 30 - is reasonable or not. You seemed to take umbrage that those of us who will have to do that (if we want to) think it's a fair deal? |
|
|
|
Post by texpef on May 24, 2018 12:05:06 GMT
i can see iginla's point in that these "extra" 2 games that are not currently on a "season ticket" (i.e. not actually the whole season) are plainly just money in the bank for the club in that its profit they are getting from their cash cows oops sorry customers that previously they were not although as discussed if the paying customer ie the season ticket holder is happy to pay for these extra games then all is gravy. I think my issue with this is as stated its VERY VERY unlikely that this extra profit will be spent on the team and not just trousered...
In theory this years team with "record season ticket sales" and a huge "main team sponsor" bonus plus what is a constant stream of more and more money coming in to the club should be a record breaking one in terms of quality of players (and in this i do include Perlini without which our brit pack is looking decidedly average and aging) but i am not holding my breath on this one...
Oh and dont get me started on non season ticket holders are the clubs best friend as they are the ones always paying full price (i work shifts so its not worth it me getting one) and they are the ones who most likely pay more over the season yet the ones getting screwed in one off games and come playoff time get pushed to the back of the queue when it comes to getting playoff tickets etc
|
|
iginla
Chick Zamick
Posts: 13,424
|
Post by iginla on May 24, 2018 13:01:25 GMT
i can see iginla's point in that these "extra" 2 games that are not currently on a "season ticket" (i.e. not actually the whole season) are plainly just money in the bank for the club in that its profit they are getting from their cash cows oops sorry customers that previously they were not although as discussed if the paying customer ie the season ticket holder is happy to pay for these extra games then all is gravy. I think my issue with this is as stated its VERY VERY unlikely that this extra profit will be spent on the team and not just trousered... In theory this years team with "record season ticket sales" and a huge "main team sponsor" bonus plus what is a constant stream of more and more money coming in to the club should be a record breaking one in terms of quality of players (and in this i do include Perlini without which our brit pack is looking decidedly average and aging) but i am not holding my breath on this one... Oh and dont get me started on non season ticket holders are the clubs best friend as they are the ones always paying full price (i work shifts so its not worth it me getting one) and they are the ones who most likely pay more over the season yet the ones getting screwed in one off games and come playoff time get pushed to the back of the queue when it comes to getting playoff tickets etc Well put Tex That’s just how I see it too. If the extra money was spent on the ice then I’d be happy, but it won’t be,it will just get pocketed by Panthers. They won’t have budgeted for a 60 game season so the extra two games is pure profit for them. However,if people are happy to pay the full regular price all the time that’s up to them. Cant think why they would be but hey ho. |
|
|
|
Post by tootootrain on May 24, 2018 13:08:48 GMT
Oh and dont get me started on non season ticket holders are the clubs best friend as they are the ones always paying full price (i work shifts so its not worth it me getting one) and they are the ones who most likely pay more over the season yet the ones getting screwed in one off games and come playoff time get pushed to the back of the queue when it comes to getting playoff tickets etc Indeed. I've noticed a fair few ST holders whinging that they're not getting a bigger discount on these extra games. ST holders get a substantial discount on every game and, as you've mentioned, get a whole load of other perks too. If only I had a job where I got every weekend off, then I could get a season ticket and whinge like some entitled brat too, crying out for more. A season ticket should entitle holders to the games they've paid for, no more, no less. |
|
|
|
Post by kievthegreat on May 24, 2018 13:52:53 GMT
Oh and dont get me started on non season ticket holders are the clubs best friend as they are the ones always paying full price (i work shifts so its not worth it me getting one) and they are the ones who most likely pay more over the season yet the ones getting screwed in one off games and come playoff time get pushed to the back of the queue when it comes to getting playoff tickets etc Indeed. I've noticed a fair few ST holders whinging that they're not getting a bigger discount on these extra games. ST holders get a substantial discount on every game and, as you've mentioned, get a whole load of other perks too. If only I had a job where I got every weekend off, then I could get a season ticket and whinge like some entitled brat too, crying out for more. A season ticket should entitle holders to the games they've paid for, no more, no less. There was a lot of this on Twitter. I paid for 28 league games and I'm getting 28 league games. I think they've also been fair with the additional games at the same prorated price. We also don't know if they'll be extra games this season as the cup isn't arranged yet so there might not be extra money in the bank. I'll happily criticise the club when they get things wrong (and they give us plenty of ammunition), but I think this has been handled very fairly. |
|
