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Post by ashfieldpanther on May 14, 2018 13:57:51 GMT
I thought Murray looked ok from his stats, but then saw some of the goals he conceded in the Worlds, and changed my opinion of him.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on May 14, 2018 14:02:05 GMT
From what I’m hearing we won’t be seeing Perlini back next year. Europe calling for him. Losing the best British forward not just in our team, but arguably the league, would be a catastrophe. I sincerely hope you're talking out your backside on this one! but the problem will be money. If Europe comes calling then he will be paid at the usual rate for an Import. He's valuable to us because of his passport, if he didn't have that would we still want him, and be prepared to pay the 'import' going rate. He can't lose really..
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Post by kievthegreat on May 14, 2018 14:14:25 GMT
Losing the best British forward not just in our team, but arguably the league, would be a catastrophe. I sincerely hope you're talking out your backside on this one! but the problem will be money. If Europe comes calling then he will be paid at the usual rate for an Import. He's valuable to us because of his passport, if he didn't have that would we still want him, and be prepared to pay the 'import' going rate. He can't lose really.. I think if he stays he ends up the biggest earner in the league as he has the perfect combo of playing ability and passport. On the other hands if a DEL team fancied a gamble he could earn a pretty penny there too. He really can't lose.
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on May 14, 2018 16:53:30 GMT
Well Perlini has posted a rather ominous Instagram post, thanking everyone for his time back in the UK.
Finishes it off by saying ‘here we come’ followed by a Canadian & USA flag... which doesn’t strike me as someone off into Europe (could be reading too much into that part though).
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Post by Yotes on May 14, 2018 17:45:27 GMT
The USA/Canada thing sounds like he's going home, after his brother's visit, for the summer to me.
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on May 14, 2018 18:14:08 GMT
The USA/Canada thing sounds like he's going home, after his brother's visit, for the summer to me. Yes I think so too now actually. Can’t think where he’d play in Canada/USA either - NHL chance will have passed and not much point in the AHL unless the NHL was viable.
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Post by deke on May 14, 2018 20:33:47 GMT
Well if he does resign for us now when he has gone back to the states or Canada it would be yet more proof the whole."we tell fans when the ink has dried" speech from the club is bull.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 21:48:09 GMT
Well if he does resign for us now when he has gone back to the states or Canada it would be yet more proof the whole."we tell fans when the ink has dried" speech from the club is bull. Not necessarily, doesn’t have to sign a contract in person, he can sign it in USA/Canada and then send it back
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Post by Yotes on May 14, 2018 22:44:52 GMT
Well if he does resign for us now when he has gone back to the states or Canada it would be yet more proof the whole."we tell fans when the ink has dried" speech from the club is bull. Not necessarily, doesn’t have to sign a contract in person, he can sign it in USA/Canada and then send it back Yeah, but either way it is a load of old horse muck
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Post by Gilly on May 16, 2018 10:42:22 GMT
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on May 16, 2018 13:19:39 GMT
Mustukovs always seems bitter and completely fixated on stats. It is weird that Sheffield haven’t announced him when Belfast pretty much did it for them. Usually Simms is desperate to be the font of all knowledge.
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Post by pantherlee on May 16, 2018 13:30:29 GMT
Mustukovs always seems bitter and completely fixated on stats. It is weird that Sheffield haven’t announced him when Belfast pretty much did it for them. Usually Simms is desperate to be the font of all knowledge. Agree with that completely. Stats aren't everything. He should just grow up and move on like everybody else, No sympathy for him whatsoever
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Post by Yotes on May 16, 2018 13:54:44 GMT
It's an odd change though, isn't it? I suppose Sheffield are hoping that Whistle turns into Bowns, but the Yorks were stingey defensively last year, best goals against in the league.
The Giants were almost the opposite, obviously that isn't all on Whistle, but still he doesn't currently scream "championship netminder" at you, and whatever my low opinion of Moose, he has won plenty with them.
All just seems a bit strange to me. I'll not be expecting double shutouts over Christmas next year.
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on May 16, 2018 16:02:40 GMT
It's an odd change though, isn't it? I suppose Sheffield are hoping that Whistle turns into Bowns, but the Yorks were stingey defensively last year, best goals against in the league. The Giants were almost the opposite, obviously that isn't all on Whistle, but still he doesn't currently scream "championship netminder" at you, and whatever my low opinion of Moose, he has won plenty with them. All just seems a bit strange to me. I'll not be expecting double shutouts over Christmas next year. Moose was a good keeper, but those shutouts at Christmas were an absolute gift to his precious stats... at that time we’d have struggled to get goals passed Evan Lindsay!
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Post by meadow on May 16, 2018 16:30:30 GMT
Given all the guff that came out of Sheffield / Thommo after they released their list of non-returners it appears that they are now trying everything possible to keep up with Cardiff.
I know technically JW is the 2nd best Brit goalie available, but him and Bowns are very different cases - Bowns is a big, conservative and patient guy who Cardiff (all credit to them) have provided with specialist summer coaching and a solid D core year in year out, whilst Whistle is impatient, reactionary and has a history of injury problems. Thats not to say he's not a good goalie - he is, but in that home playoff quarter final for example, he had two otherworldly saves but then was also directly responsible for two of our goals and probably should of done better on a couple more.
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Post by PantherB on May 16, 2018 17:58:00 GMT
It does seem bitter from Mustukovs but I'm glad to see someone have the bottle to speak out against something, very few others would do it.
Whistle has a lot of potential, he's young and got a great amount of ice time last season with Giants. He isn't at Bowns level and I don't personally feel he's at import quality level, but he's close. If Sheffield support his development well then I could easily see him becoming very good and giving Bowns something to think about in regards to who'll be GB #1. However, Whistle's hips aren't great so if he gets any injury to his hips then chances are it'll be surgery again.
I know absolutely nothing about Brandon, his brother but if the deal was along the lines of 'I'll sign if you sign my brother' then it doesn't stand out as a great deal. His brother could end up being a spare import of course and the deal would then look much better but if he is taking a proper spot on the Steelers roster then I'd be very disappointed.
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Post by cjones on May 17, 2018 6:53:17 GMT
Some are saying his operation and the long lay off means his hip problems are resolved and will most likely not return. He did play a lot of hockey last year to test that theory but will likely need to play even more this coming season.
This should also help GB in preparation for next year’s World Championships as Whistle becomes an even better netminder so that we have 2 world class goalies to share the burden of that tiring schedule.
Though I hope he isn’t too good in helping Steelers win the league! 😂
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Post by PantherTom on May 17, 2018 8:23:02 GMT
Given all the guff that came out of Sheffield / Thommo after they released their list of non-returners it appears that they are now trying everything possible to keep up with Cardiff. I know technically JW is the 2nd best Brit goalie available, but him and Bowns are very different cases - Bowns is a big, conservative and patient guy who Cardiff (all credit to them) have provided with specialist summer coaching and a solid D core year in year out, whilst Whistle is impatient, reactionary and has a history of injury problems. Thats not to say he's not a good goalie - he is, but in that home playoff quarter final for example, he had two otherworldly saves but then was also directly responsible for two of our goals and probably should of done better on a couple more. JW is an import, and not classed as a brit, so seems a strange move by sheffield to me.
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Post by SteelerBlade on May 17, 2018 8:24:13 GMT
Given all the guff that came out of Sheffield / Thommo after they released their list of non-returners it appears that they are now trying everything possible to keep up with Cardiff. I know technically JW is the 2nd best Brit goalie available, but him and Bowns are very different cases - Bowns is a big, conservative and patient guy who Cardiff (all credit to them) have provided with specialist summer coaching and a solid D core year in year out, whilst Whistle is impatient, reactionary and has a history of injury problems. Thats not to say he's not a good goalie - he is, but in that home playoff quarter final for example, he had two otherworldly saves but then was also directly responsible for two of our goals and probably should of done better on a couple more. JW is an import, and not classed as a brit, so seems a strange move by sheffield to me. He's 100% a Brit.
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Post by PantherTom on May 17, 2018 8:26:17 GMT
JW is an import, and not classed as a brit, so seems a strange move by sheffield to me. He's 100% a Brit. How can he be? as far the rules go he should be classed as an import, same as Stewart
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Post by mattscold on May 17, 2018 8:28:49 GMT
How can he be? as far the rules go he should be classed as an import, same as Stewart I think he may have played some pee wee hocky in the UK before he went back to Canada that isn't shown on his EP stats. Might be wrong though.
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Post by PantherTom on May 17, 2018 8:32:48 GMT
How can he be? as far the rules go he should be classed as an import, same as Stewart I think he may have played some pee wee hocky in the UK before he went back to Canada that isn't shown on his EP stats. Might be wrong though. He wasn't even born in the UK! Something fishy going on here I think, as Im sure he was classed as an import when Belfast signed him.
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Post by mattscold on May 17, 2018 8:38:24 GMT
I think he may have played some pee wee hocky in the UK before he went back to Canada that isn't shown on his EP stats. Might be wrong though. He wasn't even born in the UK! Something fishy going on here I think, as Im sure he was classed as an import when Belfast signed him. Belfast bio suggests he played junior here but doesn't go into detail Here I assume it was when his father coached in Belfast.
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Post by claretgiant on May 17, 2018 8:40:21 GMT
I think he may have played some pee wee hocky in the UK before he went back to Canada that isn't shown on his EP stats. Might be wrong though. He wasn't even born in the UK! Something fishy going on here I think, as Im sure he was classed as an import when Belfast signed him. Whistle is 100% classed as a brit. He still seemed to struggle to play back to back games last season due to some ongoing problems following his double hip operations. If the same thing continues this coming season I would expect Brad Day to get more ice time than last season.
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Post by Rob Scott on May 17, 2018 13:19:08 GMT
Justin Kovacs to Panthers.
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