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Post by tootootrain on Dec 3, 2017 17:52:07 GMT
Scoring by committee not by superstar... that's what we've got this season, and it appears to be working. As long as each player is working hard - and so far they all appear to be doing so - and the team is scoring and winning - and so far that is happening - then does it really matter if this player or that player isn't up at the top of the scoring charts? Spot on. Opposition can't plan to specifically shut down a line when you're scoring off all four.
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Post by tootootrain on Dec 3, 2017 17:55:15 GMT
They do if you count Ronnberg who left, but then returned for the conti cup, and for this weekend. Ah Ronnberg. The big guy who likes to cheap shot but lacks any testicular fortitude.
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Post by Shaggy on Dec 3, 2017 18:18:38 GMT
They do if you count Ronnberg who left, but then returned for the conti cup, and for this weekend. The big guy who likes to cheap shot but lacks any testicular fortitude. No, you're going to have to narrow it down a bit more than that...
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Post by kezypanther on Dec 4, 2017 22:28:07 GMT
Can’t someone’s please explain the penalty shot, seeing the highlights you can see Lacho does shoot the stick towards the players. Should this be 2mins illegal equipment or is a penalty shot the correct call. Don’t think I have ever seen this happen before, so just intrigued ...
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Post by pingchowchi on Dec 4, 2017 22:35:49 GMT
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Post by kievthegreat on Dec 5, 2017 2:05:17 GMT
Can’t someone’s please explain the penalty shot, seeing the highlights you can see Lacho does shoot the stick towards the players. Should this be 2mins illegal equipment or is a penalty shot the correct call. Don’t think I have ever seen this happen before, so just intrigued ... It's not illegal equipment. It's "throwing the stick" which in the defensive zone is always a PS. 100% correct call.
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Post by texpef on Dec 5, 2017 11:55:38 GMT
Not always a penalty shot its optional... as is a 2 min minor
as i havent seen the offending penalty can it be confirmed definitely that this actually happened (other end of the ice from me and all that) or is this another case of anything to help the steelers like all those penalties in the last period...
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Post by stevejackson on Dec 5, 2017 12:12:04 GMT
Good game, good result. Spoilt by some excruciating officiating, is hicks biased or inept? If he's the former don't put him charge of games like this, if he's the latter then take him off the elite league officials list and send him to the lower or junior leagues.
The character of the team is such as it didn't phase them and they upped the tempo to get the game won. Would have liked to have seen nelson be made to step up to the plate and noticed that Armstrong stayed away from Galbraith as well.
We march on.
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Post by DMS on Dec 5, 2017 12:25:14 GMT
Good game, good result. Spoilt by some excruciating officiating, is hicks biased or inept? If he's the former don't put him charge of games like this, if he's the latter then take him off the elite league officials list and send him to the lower or junior leagues. The character of the team is such as it didn't phase them and they upped the tempo to get the game won. Would have liked to have seen nelson be made to step up to the plate and noticed that Armstrong stayed away from Galbraith as well. We march on. What calls did hicks get wrong?
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Post by stevejackson on Dec 5, 2017 13:19:37 GMT
A case of calling stuff against us and not for them
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Post by iginla on Dec 5, 2017 18:12:12 GMT
A case of calling stuff against us and not for them Hicks did seem to call whatever he possibly could against Panthers,but as little as possible against the Steelers. It just seems rather odd bearing in mind the way the Steelers play,that somehow they ended up enjoying 18 powerplays over two games last weekend,nine in each game,against only 6 and 5 for their opponents. That’s some going bearing in mind Steelers seem to be a pretty dirty team compared to Panthers and Milton Keynes.
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Post by pingchowchi on Dec 5, 2017 18:18:47 GMT
Not always a penalty shot its optional... as is a 2 min minor as i havent seen the offending penalty can it be confirmed definitely that this actually happened (other end of the ice from me and all that) or is this another case of anything to help the steelers like all those penalties in the last period... Yes its in the highlights, lacho shots a disgarded stick towards a steeler with the puck.
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Post by kievthegreat on Dec 5, 2017 19:17:29 GMT
Not always a penalty shot its optional... as is a 2 min minor as i havent seen the offending penalty can it be confirmed definitely that this actually happened (other end of the ice from me and all that) or is this another case of anything to help the steelers like all those penalties in the last period... Not according to the rulebook The determining factor between a minor or a penalty shot in this instance is what zone the puck carrier is in.
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Post by bobness on Dec 5, 2017 19:25:59 GMT
So, turns out Hicks knows the rules pretty well, considering that is the first time I’ve seen this called in 26 years...
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Post by kezypanther on Dec 5, 2017 20:11:13 GMT
Think a penalty shot is harsh unless the stick was shot at the player as he was taking a shot. The puck was in the corner so if anything I believe it should have been just 2 minutes. But if the rules say PS then Hicks got it right, a lot he missed that night but fair does on getting it right when it matters ( to steelers )
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Post by texpef on Dec 6, 2017 9:14:43 GMT
However:---
Rule 637 | Throwing Stick/Object (a) A minor penalty shall be assessed to any player on the ice who shoots or throws any portion of his stick or any other object in the direction of the puck.
(Note) When a player discards the broken portion of a stick by tossing it to the side of the rink (and not over the boards) in such a way as will not interfere with play or an opposing player, no penalty shall be assessed.
However, a penalty shot/optional minor penalty shall be awarded to the non-offending team if done in his defending zone. The Referee shall allow play to be completed and provided no goal is scored, the penalty shot/optional minor is awarded to the player who was fouled. If the player fouled is not readily identified, the Captain of the non-offending team shall select the player to take the penalty shot from those players who were on the ice at the time the infraction occurred.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 13:08:23 GMT
However:--- Rule 637 | Throwing Stick/Object (a) A minor penalty shall be assessed to any player on the ice who shoots or throws any portion of his stick or any other object in the direction of the puck. (Note) When a player discards the broken portion of a stick by tossing it to the side of the rink (and not over the boards) in such a way as will not interfere with play or an opposing player, no penalty shall be assessed. However, a penalty shot/optional minor penalty shall be awarded to the non-offending team if done in his defending zone. The Referee shall allow play to be completed and provided no goal is scored, the penalty shot/optional minor is awarded to the player who was fouled. If the player fouled is not readily identified, the Captain of the non-offending team shall select the player to take the penalty shot from those players who were on the ice at the time the infraction occurred. So, the correct call was made but the wrong player took the penalty. Valdix should have taken it not Nelson. Hicks surely can 'readily identify' the player fouled? Oh well, the annoying little git missed it anyway!
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Post by bobness on Dec 6, 2017 16:33:33 GMT
However:--- Rule 637 | Throwing Stick/Object (a) A minor penalty shall be assessed to any player on the ice who shoots or throws any portion of his stick or any other object in the direction of the puck. (Note) When a player discards the broken portion of a stick by tossing it to the side of the rink (and not over the boards) in such a way as will not interfere with play or an opposing player, no penalty shall be assessed. However, a penalty shot/optional minor penalty shall be awarded to the non-offending team if done in his defending zone. The Referee shall allow play to be completed and provided no goal is scored, the penalty shot/optional minor is awarded to the player who was fouled. If the player fouled is not readily identified, the Captain of the non-offending team shall select the player to take the penalty shot from those players who were on the ice at the time the infraction occurred. So, the correct call was made but the wrong player took the penalty. Valdix should have taken it not Nelson. Hicks surely can 'readily identify' the player fouled? Oh well, the annoying little git missed it anyway! Yes, but they're not the IIHF rules that the EIHL plays under. IIHF rule 176 i and iii are the rules to look at here. I guess that the referee interpreted the play such that the stick was shot at the puck, not the skater, and so any skater on the ice is allowed to take it, at Thommo's discretion. Anyway, the Great Dane saved it.
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