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Post by iginla on May 8, 2017 11:59:01 GMT
Before anybody asks. NO we don't want him !
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 12:25:46 GMT
Before anybody asks. NO we don't want him ! He'd be an upgrade on Sertich.
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Post by dill1015 on May 8, 2017 19:25:37 GMT
Before anybody asks. NO we don't want him ! He'd be an upgrade on Sertich. No he wouldnt. He a defense man that cant defend. Sertich was underwelhming but not a complete liabilty at the back.
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Post by iginla on May 8, 2017 20:04:11 GMT
I see Ratchuk has tweeted his thanks to Sheffield,but finished it off with,,,,,"see you soon".
That's worrying ! 😩
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Post by marksteeler on May 9, 2017 4:57:31 GMT
I see Ratchuk has tweeted his thanks to Sheffield,but finished it off with,,,,,"see you soon". That's worrying ! 😩 You think that's worrying? He then tweeted someone else and said I'll see you down the road!
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Post by deke on May 9, 2017 7:06:21 GMT
Lol we would manage to downgrade the squad with him! Didn't think that was possible!
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Post by Pies on May 9, 2017 7:25:45 GMT
Noble back with Blaze Link
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Post by jdizpt8 on May 9, 2017 7:36:02 GMT
Lol we would manage to downgrade the squad with him! Didn't think that was possible! hes a D man who can play wing though, Corey is having awkward trouser moments over that! to be fair he did have that aggressive edge to his game which i felt our D lacked last year and he knows Thommo's systems, lets hope if he does come that firstly he performs well all season, secondly he doesn't get injured and finally he doesn't follow the trait of ex Steelers who have joined us in the past CoughScottAllisonCough
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Post by jdizpt8 on May 9, 2017 7:48:01 GMT
interesting to see on the panthers website that Corey is looking at who could play with who, surely he doesn't mean working out settled lines . . .
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Post by Gilly on May 9, 2017 7:49:47 GMT
Kevin Noble back in Coventry - EXCELLENT NEWS!
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Post by bobness on May 9, 2017 8:58:39 GMT
He'd be an upgrade on Sertich. No he wouldnt. He a defense man that cant defend. Sertich was underwelhming but not a complete liabilty at the back. The Andy Sertich who was Panthers worst +/- player last year, all year?
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Post by thebestpanthers on May 9, 2017 9:02:13 GMT
Noble back with Blaze LinkTarget practice for whoever we sign
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Post by Yotes on May 9, 2017 10:36:13 GMT
interesting to see on the panthers website that Corey is looking at who could play with who, surely he doesn't mean working out settled lines . . . Reads like it's what he does every year, and we know what happens every year. Still, so long as he's enjoying himself.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2017 10:43:01 GMT
He'd be an upgrade on Sertich. No he wouldnt. He a defense man that cant defend. Sertich was underwelhming but not a complete liabilty at the back. Not every defenceman needs to have defending as their primary responsibility, you need at least 1 that's a risk taker and makes the big play (yes they may get caught out occasionally but over a season it would balance itself out). Whilst we have Spang who is offensively minded/gifted he's not that much of a risk taker or gambler, he's very much a two way defender who would be more effective on less minutes (second line powerplay and second line penalty kill). So you'd have a defence that lined up something like this: Lepine-esque (stay at home) - Werner-esque (two way) Spang (two way) - Lee (the keep it simple version who was very effective towards the back end of the season) Ratchuk (offensive) - Beckett-esque (stay at home) Tetlow (7th d man) You could probably bring one of Dimmen or Waugh back if they where to play with a Lepine type player (or the man himself) as they'd compliment each other well.
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Post by Ghost on May 9, 2017 11:11:56 GMT
No he wouldnt. He a defense man that cant defend. Sertich was underwelhming but not a complete liabilty at the back. Not every defenceman needs to have defending as their primary responsibility, you need at least 1 that's a risk taker and makes the big play (yes they may get caught out occasionally but over a season it would balance itself out). Whilst we have Spang who is offensively minded/gifted he's not that much of a risk taker or gambler, he's very much a two way defender who would be more effective on less minutes (second line powerplay and second line penalty kill). So you'd have a defence that lined up something like this: Lepine-esque (stay at home) - Werner-esque (two way) Spang (two way) - Lee (the keep it simple version who was very effective towards the back end of the season) Ratchuk (offensive) - Beckett-esque (stay at home) Tetlow (7th d man) You could probably bring one of Dimmen or Waugh back if they where to play with a Lepine type player (or the man himself) as they'd compliment each other well. Style isn't the only factor though. I would be disappointed to see Waugh or Dimmen back because of quality, not style.
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Post by Robbie Nud on May 9, 2017 11:17:13 GMT
and finally he doesn't follow the trait of ex Steelers who have joined us in the past CoughScottAllisonCough On the flipside Jamie Leach
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2017 11:19:40 GMT
Not every defenceman needs to have defending as their primary responsibility, you need at least 1 that's a risk taker and makes the big play (yes they may get caught out occasionally but over a season it would balance itself out). Whilst we have Spang who is offensively minded/gifted he's not that much of a risk taker or gambler, he's very much a two way defender who would be more effective on less minutes (second line powerplay and second line penalty kill). So you'd have a defence that lined up something like this: Lepine-esque (stay at home) - Werner-esque (two way) Spang (two way) - Lee (the keep it simple version who was very effective towards the back end of the season) Ratchuk (offensive) - Beckett-esque (stay at home) Tetlow (7th d man) You could probably bring one of Dimmen or Waugh back if they where to play with a Lepine type player (or the man himself) as they'd compliment each other well. Style isn't the only factor though. I would be disappointed to see Waugh or Dimmen back because of quality, not style. That's fair.
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Post by iginla on May 9, 2017 11:39:35 GMT
interesting to see on the panthers website that Corey is looking at who could play with who, surely he doesn't mean working out settled lines . . . Reads like it's what he does every year, and we know what happens every year. Still, so long as he's enjoying himself. That's exactly what I thought too ! 🙄
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Post by pantherlee on May 9, 2017 11:56:51 GMT
You'd think he would be better at recruitment seeing as he seems to enjoy it so much
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Post by dill1015 on May 9, 2017 14:20:07 GMT
Not every defenceman needs to have defending as their primary responsibility, you need at least 1 that's a risk taker and makes the big play (yes they may get caught out occasionally but over a season it would balance itself out). Whilst we have Spang who is offensively minded/gifted he's not that much of a risk taker or gambler, he's very much a two way defender who would be more effective on less minutes (second line powerplay and second line penalty kill). So you'd have a defence that lined up something like this: Lepine-esque (stay at home) - Werner-esque (two way) Spang (two way) - Lee (the keep it simple version who was very effective towards the back end of the season) Ratchuk (offensive) - Beckett-esque (stay at home) Tetlow (7th d man) You could probably bring one of Dimmen or Waugh back if they where to play with a Lepine type player (or the man himself) as they'd compliment each other well. Style isn't the only factor though. I would be disappointed to see Waugh or Dimmen back because of quality, not style. No you dont need a risk taker. Look at our glam slam team. All guys who looked after their own end first. Spang is more than enough for us. We need stay at home guys who have a good out let pass. Thats it. If they have the ability to jump in the play even better. But they must tick the first 2 boxes first. There's a reason Thompson doesnt want him back.
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Post by wgray on May 9, 2017 14:45:33 GMT
One of our Dmen needs to have the raw ability to control a powerplay, in the grand slam season this was Weaver. Look at other teams last year, Sheffield had O'Connor, Devils had Hotham, we need someone who can control and dictate the play, it's vital that Corey signs someone with this ability
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2017 15:48:51 GMT
Style isn't the only factor though. I would be disappointed to see Waugh or Dimmen back because of quality, not style. No you dont need a risk taker. Look at our glam slam team. All guys who looked after their own end first. Spang is more than enough for us. We need stay at home guys who have a good out let pass. Thats it. If they have the ability to jump in the play even better. But they must tick the first 2 boxes first. There's a reason Thompson doesnt want him back. If all you have is stay at home guys with a good outlet pass you become instantly predictable, which then leads to constant dump and chase. Whereas if you have someone with an X factor who can carry the puck into the offensive zone like Ratchuk it gives you another option much like Fox//Werner did for us in the grand slam season (for me Weaver was more a puck mover who'd get the puck into the zone through good passes rather than skating with it, could be wrong but that's what I remember).
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Post by Ghost on May 9, 2017 17:12:48 GMT
No you dont need a risk taker. Look at our glam slam team. All guys who looked after their own end first. Spang is more than enough for us. We need stay at home guys who have a good out let pass. Thats it. If they have the ability to jump in the play even better. But they must tick the first 2 boxes first. There's a reason Thompson doesnt want him back. If all you have is stay at home guys with a good outlet pass you become instantly predictable, which then leads to constant dump and chase. Whereas if you have someone with an X factor who can carry the puck into the offensive zone like Ratchuk it gives you another option much like Fox//Werner did for us in the grand slam season (for me Weaver was more a puck mover who'd get the puck into the zone through good passes rather than skating with it, could be wrong but that's what I remember). Spang does this well. His skating is pretty good, speed on the puck is one of the main factors.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2017 17:55:55 GMT
I'd take Ratchuk my Steelers supporting family liked him and they did see him for 30 odd games not 8! I think you're getting him mixed up with Coyle.. he was gash!
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Post by iginla on May 9, 2017 18:10:14 GMT
I'd take Ratchuk my Steelers supporting family liked him and they did see him for 30 odd games not 8! I think you're getting him mixed up with Coyle.. he was gash! Why are Sheffield letting him go then Pidge,that's the question that you have to ask ? One minute last year Thompson is telling the world Ratchuk can do things nobody else in this league can and then he's letting him go. Ratchuk was apologising not long ago for letting people down or something. There's a reason why Steelers have released him and something doesn't add up !
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