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Post by wannabe2 on Aug 16, 2016 20:46:20 GMT
1. Devils 2. Clan 3. steelers 4. Panthers 5. Giants 6. Blaze 7. Stars 8. Storm 9. Caps 10. Flyers
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Post by jdizpt8 on Aug 16, 2016 22:16:45 GMT
1 - Panthers 2 - don't care 3 - don't care 4 - don't care 5 - don't care 6 - don't care 7 - don't care 8 - don't care 9 - don't care 10 - probably the caps
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Post by sevcik on Aug 16, 2016 22:59:52 GMT
Think Panthers will finish between 4th & 6th unfortunately. We simply dont appear to have the firepower up front hope im very wrong on that but I doubt it.. and throw in Lawrence into that mix.... Think defensively we look very strong. Cant see Cardiff winning the league... not while they still have a bottler as their coach/ player coach. Though they should.... at least on paper anyhow but that means nothing. Wouldnt bet against them winning play offs, challenge cup or both though..
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Post by joesteeler on Aug 18, 2016 8:23:02 GMT
Surely Cardiff should win it this year. They are by far the biggest spenders this season. Just thrown money at it Although is it the Clans time? Would be a travesty if they didn't win it this year.
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Post by mattscold on Aug 18, 2016 10:17:14 GMT
Surely Cardiff should win it this year. They are by far the biggest spenders this season. Just thrown money at it Although is it the Clans time? Would be a travesty if they didn't win it this year. I think the biggest sticking point for Braehead is their coach. Can't see them winning with Finnerty at the helm.
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Post by cjmatt42 on Aug 18, 2016 11:11:11 GMT
Cardiff have set their stall out, recruited on paper a very strong line up and have got them all here playing tough competitive games already. Steelers likewise via the CHL are having a great preseason for their strong squad on paper. It's this area that you can see them making a strong side and leaving teams that have a poor attitude to preseason behind in the opening months. I really think the attitude of Panthers and other sides leaves a lot to be desired, by the time a decent proportion of our imports arrive Cardiff will have had two weeks together and played four tough preseason friendlies.
That said Braehead as ever have to be favourites over the course of a season due to their schedule in comparison to Cardiff and Sheffield. They only realistically need to be 2nd/3rd or maybe the 4th best side in a season to win the title. Last year they were probably the 5th and hence they fell short.
Sad state of affairs that before a puck is dropped many of us can't see anything better than fourth place. Shows how much the club are letting the fans down by not even putting us in the running again.
I'll go for:
Cardiff Braehead Steelers Giants / Panthers Panthers / Giants Dundee Fife Coventry Manchester Edinburgh
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Post by deke on Aug 18, 2016 11:44:19 GMT
Steelers Devils and the clan all look pretty strong. We are a definite contender depending on how we click solid defence got a excellent goaltender and some surprises up front. We will be playing a gritty style I reckon and be tougher than our rivals think. Ok our forward line isn't brilliant but it's not awful either still some potential for some good point scorers I'm excited by the lawrence line. That line clicks expect magic.
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Post by iginla on Aug 18, 2016 12:00:38 GMT
Steelers Devils and the clan all look pretty strong. We are a definite contender depending on how we click solid defence got a excellent goaltender and some surprises up front. We will be playing a gritty style I reckon and be tougher than our rivals think. Ok our forward line isn't brilliant but it's not awful either still some potential for some good point scorers I'm excited by the lawrence line. That line clicks expect magic. People seem to be getting super excited about the Lawrence line. But we don't even know if it's a line yet and just because they are mates and play a few scrimmages together back home in the summer it doesn't mean they are going to rip the league apart. As far as we know,the three of them have never even played a proper game together. I reckon Corey has gone for the work hard,be consistent,win on a wet Wednesday night in Edinburgh type of team. But our big problem is going to be having the skill and quality to unlock the door in the big games with the Steeler,Devils and Giants !
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Post by texpef on Aug 18, 2016 16:35:28 GMT
1 - Panthers 2 - don't care 3 - don't care 4 - don't care 5 - don't care 6 - don't care 7 - don't care 8 - don't care 9 - don't care 10 - probably the caps My heart says this, my head says we haven't really spent enough (or if we have we haven't spent wisely enough) for it to actually happen...
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Post by Mozzy on Aug 18, 2016 16:58:54 GMT
I think anyone of Cardiff, Sheffield, Nottingham, Braehaed and Belfast can win it.
It's not just about having the "best" players on paper, it's about the right balance of players in each position.
Our defence, on paper, may not look as strong as others but it still has over 1000 games of experience at higher level leagues than the EIHL.
Whoever finds the right balance and chemistry will win it, regardless of spend imo.
Edited to add : Not a lot wrong with the D tonight in Sweden. :-)
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Aug 24, 2016 8:52:14 GMT
Devils add Bordeleau making them the most complete roster by far.
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Post by Gilly on Aug 24, 2016 9:11:34 GMT
Devils should win the league by some margin looking at their team - absolutly stacked from top to bottom.
quite how sustainable all this undoubted spending is anybodies guess, especially on mid range crowds, unless anybody else can enlighten me.
they are the team to beat this year and for that reason i hope they crash and burn (again!)
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Post by wgray on Aug 24, 2016 9:15:37 GMT
Devils should win the league by some margin looking at their team - absolutly stacked from top to bottom. quite how sustainable all this undoubted spending is anybodies guess, especially on mid range crowds, unless anybody else can enlighten me. they are the team to beat this year and for that reason i hope they crash and burn (again!) Easy, Steve King wants to win, he invests
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Post by Gilly on Aug 24, 2016 9:20:29 GMT
Devils should win the league by some margin looking at their team - absolutly stacked from top to bottom. quite how sustainable all this undoubted spending is anybodies guess, especially on mid range crowds, unless anybody else can enlighten me. they are the team to beat this year and for that reason i hope they crash and burn (again!) Easy, Steve King wants to win, he invests Certainly looks that way! Who can stop the Cardiff Devils???!!!
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Aug 24, 2016 9:30:30 GMT
Devils should win the league by some margin looking at their team - absolutly stacked from top to bottom. quite how sustainable all this undoubted spending is anybodies guess, especially on mid range crowds, unless anybody else can enlighten me. they are the team to beat this year and for that reason i hope they crash and burn (again!) Look at the quality of their marketing/PR on the signing. Panthers just hit the copy & paste button from the previous signing on the website along with a tweet to 'check the website at 3pm'. Devils put out a great website article with an insightful and informative video included. Social media buzzing with plenty of engagement... The fans will come for him! Panthers left the buzz around Janssen to the fans, Devils are adding to the excitement around Bordeleau. www.cardiffdevils.com/news/devils-sign-patrick-bordeleau/
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Post by tonyflow on Aug 24, 2016 14:06:04 GMT
Devils should win the league by some margin looking at their team - absolutly stacked from top to bottom. quite how sustainable all this undoubted spending is anybodies guess, especially on mid range crowds, unless anybody else can enlighten me. they are the team to beat this year and for that reason i hope they crash and burn (again!) Easy, Steve King wants to win, he invests True to say that our latest signing is top drawer and yes our owners would want to win the league....I am sure most owners want this also. The bigger picture in my mind is that our owners want to buy IAW. This needs a successful Hockey Team with bums on seats. I could be completely off the mark by I would suggest this signing is a means to bigger things for our Canadian owners. They want the Arena but need to get the revenue. Just my thoughts...anyhoo...Looking forward to seeing you guys down in the Bay soon. I am sure you will be fine and I reckon there is a signing waiting for you. Cheers.
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Post by wannabe2 on Aug 24, 2016 17:08:32 GMT
Devils should win the league by some margin looking at their team - absolutly stacked from top to bottom. quite how sustainable all this undoubted spending is anybodies guess, especially on mid range crowds, unless anybody else can enlighten me. they are the team to beat this year and for that reason i hope they crash and burn (again!) Rumour has it that it costs you guys 12k a week ice time,nth at roughly eqautes to 800 fans money to pay for the ice time, Devils pay zilch, which is a huge plus for us. If we can get 3000 or so through the turnstiles, with all the sponsorship money, and with Owners who ain't in it to line their pockets, think we will be just fine.
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Post by iginla on Aug 24, 2016 17:29:14 GMT
Devils should win the league by some margin looking at their team - absolutly stacked from top to bottom. quite how sustainable all this undoubted spending is anybodies guess, especially on mid range crowds, unless anybody else can enlighten me. they are the team to beat this year and for that reason i hope they crash and burn (again!) Rumour has it that it costs you guys 12k a week ice time,nth at roughly eqautes to 800 fans money to pay for the ice time, Devils pay zilch, which is a huge plus for us. If we can get 3000 or so through the turnstiles, with all the sponsorship money, and with Owners who ain't in it to line their pockets, think we will be just fine. We have no problem with your owners,I wish we had them. Our gripe is with our own Panthers management,because they don't do what they could. Yes we may need the first 800 fans to pay the rent that you don't pay,but that still leaves us probably 2000 fans better off than the Devils,or £25k per game better off,plus all the other spin offs created from those extra fans. We must be close to a £1million better off than you over a season........and yet look at the two rosters !!!! Our problem is,Cardiff and Sheffield do what they need to,whereas we do just enough to be competitive and no more,then every year when the season is going tits up in January,we then start to spend a bit to win the tinpot trophies !
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Post by Pies on Aug 24, 2016 20:17:20 GMT
Rumour has it that it costs you guys 12k a week ice time,nth at roughly eqautes to 800 fans money to pay for the ice time, Devils pay zilch, which is a huge plus for us. If we can get 3000 or so through the turnstiles, with all the sponsorship money, and with Owners who ain't in it to line their pockets, think we will be just fine. We have no problem with your owners,I wish we had them. Our gripe is with our own Panthers management,because they don't do what they could. Yes we may need the first 800 fans to pay the rent that you don't pay,but that still leaves us probably 2000 fans better off than the Devils,or £25k per game better off,plus all the other spin offs created from those extra fans. We must be close to a £1million better off than you over a season........and yet look at the two rosters !!!! Our problem is,Cardiff and Sheffield do what they need to,whereas we do just enough to be competitive and no more,then every year when the season is going tits up in January,we then start to spend a bit to win the tinpot trophies ! To play Devils advocate here, the Devils have won one major trophy so far. They may do the right things on paper but until they get it right on the ice, I wouldn't swap situations
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Post by iginla on Aug 24, 2016 21:45:18 GMT
We have no problem with your owners,I wish we had them. Our gripe is with our own Panthers management,because they don't do what they could. Yes we may need the first 800 fans to pay the rent that you don't pay,but that still leaves us probably 2000 fans better off than the Devils,or £25k per game better off,plus all the other spin offs created from those extra fans. We must be close to a £1million better off than you over a season........and yet look at the two rosters !!!! Our problem is,Cardiff and Sheffield do what they need to,whereas we do just enough to be competitive and no more,then every year when the season is going tits up in January,we then start to spend a bit to win the tinpot trophies ! To play Devils advocate here, the Devils have won one major trophy so far. They may do the right things on paper but until they get it right on the ice, I wouldn't swap situations To be fair though Pies,Cardiff have only really had one seasons crack at it so far. They would have won the league last year if they hadn't moved into the new arena,that was a bad decision and it cost them. Look at their roster and ours this season and tell me where our very conservative extra £1 million pounds in revenue has gone ? And that is after deducting our arena hire cost that they don't have to pay. I don't think even Pantherb could defend that one !
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Post by Pies on Aug 25, 2016 5:42:43 GMT
To play Devils advocate here, the Devils have won one major trophy so far. They may do the right things on paper but until they get it right on the ice, I wouldn't swap situations To be fair though Pies,Cardiff have only really had one seasons crack at it so far. They would have won the league last year if they hadn't moved into the new arena,that was a bad decision and it cost them. Look at their roster and ours this season and tell me where our very conservative extra £1 million pounds in revenue has gone ? And that is after deducting our arena hire cost that they don't have to pay. I don't think even Pantherb could defend that one ! I agree to a certain extent but until they are consistently winning silverware, we can't judge them as a success IMO. If they win the league this season then I'll tip my hat to them but all their off ice work has meant very little on ice success so far. Their team basically folded in the PO semi finals
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Post by iginla on Aug 25, 2016 10:00:41 GMT
To be fair though Pies,Cardiff have only really had one seasons crack at it so far. They would have won the league last year if they hadn't moved into the new arena,that was a bad decision and it cost them. Look at their roster and ours this season and tell me where our very conservative extra £1 million pounds in revenue has gone ? And that is after deducting our arena hire cost that they don't have to pay. I don't think even Pantherb could defend that one ! I agree to a certain extent but until they are consistently winning silverware, we can't judge them as a success IMO. If they win the league this season then I'll tip my hat to them but all their off ice work has meant very little on ice success so far. Their team basically folded in the PO semi finals I agree with you Pies. But when you look at pure figures like that,bearing in mind all other costs are pretty much the same for both teams,just where does all that extra Panthers revenue go ? A million £s plus is a huge figure,just think what we "could have" by spending even an extra 10% of that. I know where it goes and you know too......but some people just don't see it.
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Post by Gilly on Aug 25, 2016 10:14:37 GMT
Devils should win the league by some margin looking at their team - absolutly stacked from top to bottom. quite how sustainable all this undoubted spending is anybodies guess, especially on mid range crowds, unless anybody else can enlighten me. they are the team to beat this year and for that reason i hope they crash and burn (again!) Rumour has it that it costs you guys 12k a week ice time,nth at roughly eqautes to 800 fans money to pay for the ice time, Devils pay zilch, which is a huge plus for us. If we can get 3000 or so through the turnstiles, with all the sponsorship money, and with Owners who ain't in it to line their pockets, think we will be just fine. I thought i'd read something about them having free ice time which in itself is a massive bonus! After the torrid seasons you've had a few years back you guys no doubt deserve the owners you now have - and ones who have put together one heck of a team. I just wish for once our ownership would pull out this type of stacked team on par with yours, and whilst the game isnt played on paper, i see no weaknesses in your team at all now you have Bordeleau. Just waiting for the odds to come out on sky bet and ill be all over it!
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Post by ggggranville on Aug 25, 2016 13:58:43 GMT
For me it has to be Devils or Steelers. Both squads but particularly the Devils are stacked with quality. Being just a fan I am I have absolutely no idea what the outlay has been for the owners of the club. Steelers are renowned for doing whatever it takes to be ultra competitive and now the Devils, with new owners are flexing their muscles. There is talk that they want to buy their arena which cost I believe in the region of £17 million and their final signing of Bordeleau would have cost a pretty penny. I feel that the two could leave the rest behind I their wake. Hopefully cheque book hockey will not rear its ugly head in the following seasons. Surely Devils/Steelers would never do such a thing 🤔 So Devils champions with Steelers second and maybe the Clan the best of the rest. All in my humble opinion.
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Post by mattscold on Aug 25, 2016 14:27:20 GMT
For me it has to be Devils or Steelers. Both squads but particularly the Devils are stacked with quality. Being just a fan I am I have absolutely no idea what the outlay has been for the owners of the club. Steelers are renowned for doing whatever it takes to be ultra competitive and now the Devils, with new owners are flexing their muscles. There is talk that they want to buy their arena which cost I believe in the region of £17 million and their final signing of Bordeleau would have cost a pretty penny. I feel that the two could leave the rest behind I their wake. Hopefully cheque book hockey will not rear its ugly head in the following seasons. Surely Devils/Steelers would never do such a thing 🤔 So Devils champions with Steelers second and maybe the Clan the best of the rest. All in my humble opinion. I would say it already has. Highly doubt devils will make a profit this year based on spends, regardless of free ice time.
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