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Post by shmyrohdear on Sept 1, 2016 8:50:56 GMT
I can't see Lepine back in the EIHL this season. He's earnt a shot in a top Euro league with his AHL experience. Wouldn't want him at Panthers in this team either, we need a guy who will do some fighting and Lepine's game has evolved way past being that guy... If you change him for Waugh/Dimmen and get a tough winger in, definitely. McLaren I think would have gone to Cardiff if he was coming to the UK. Then again, I'm blinkered on the possibility of getting John Scott. Have you not seen Lepine's fight card from his time in the AHL? His game has not evolved away from fighting at all. He was never just a guy to drop them in the first place. Most of his fights seemed to come as retaliation or because he hit someone. Solid, will fight, brings balance. Would be stupid to not get him in if he has his eyes anywhere near this league.
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Sept 1, 2016 9:49:14 GMT
I can't see Lepine back in the EIHL this season. He's earnt a shot in a top Euro league with his AHL experience. Wouldn't want him at Panthers in this team either, we need a guy who will do some fighting and Lepine's game has evolved way past being that guy... If you change him for Waugh/Dimmen and get a tough winger in, definitely. McLaren I think would have gone to Cardiff if he was coming to the UK. Then again, I'm blinkered on the possibility of getting John Scott. Have you not seen Lepine's fight card from his time in the AHL? His game has not evolved away from fighting at all. He was never just a guy to drop them in the first place. Most of his fights seemed to come as retaliation or because he hit someone. Solid, will fight, brings balance. Would be stupid to not get him in if he has his eyes anywhere near this league. What I'm saying is we shouldn't want Lepine here to do the bulk of fighting. If he came instead of Waugh/Dimmen as a secondary fighter then great but at EIHL level we'd want him on the ice as much as possible. If he came to fill the job done by Cam last season (needed to neutralise your Rosehill's, Bordeleau's, Neilson's etc) then Lepine isn't the right guy... Yeah he can hit and fight, but you wouldn't want him sat out for 5+ mins in many games.
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Post by shmyrohdear on Sept 1, 2016 21:02:12 GMT
Have you not seen Lepine's fight card from his time in the AHL? His game has not evolved away from fighting at all. He was never just a guy to drop them in the first place. Most of his fights seemed to come as retaliation or because he hit someone. Solid, will fight, brings balance. Would be stupid to not get him in if he has his eyes anywhere near this league. What I'm saying is we shouldn't want Lepine here to do the bulk of fighting. If he came instead of Waugh/Dimmen as a secondary fighter then great but at EIHL level we'd want him on the ice as much as possible. If he came to fill the job done by Cam last season (needed to neutralise your Rosehill's, Bordeleau's, Neilson's etc) then Lepine isn't the right guy... Yeah he can hit and fight, but you wouldn't want him sat out for 5+ mins in many games. I don't agree with that fully, we have a guy to play the utility role so defensively it doesn't hurt us and he'd only need to be a neutraliser, it didn't hurt us before when there were fighters everywhere so i don't see it hurting us now. Teams built like ours don't necessarily need a bulk fighter just a deterrent for when someone starts take liberties. But it's all null and void, he isn't coming back anyway.
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Post by panthers_nyr on Sept 2, 2016 11:21:12 GMT
www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=10245Josh Gratton to Panthers, Twitter related again but he's liked multiple tweets from British Hockey Fights and then they tweeted him asking if he was coming over and he replied with this Also replied to a panthers fan saying "we will see" so still speculation but a bit more plausible clues than John Scott's tweet.
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Post by Gilly on Sept 2, 2016 13:12:04 GMT
www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=10245Josh Gratton to Panthers, Twitter related again but he's liked multiple tweets from British Hockey Fights and then they tweeted him asking if he was coming over and he replied with this Also replied to a panthers fan saying "we will see" so still speculation but a bit more plausible clues than John Scott's tweet. Also had previously retweeted a tweet from BritishHockeyFights (@hockeyfightsuk) saying "hockey season is back #EIHL" and a montage of lots of EIHL fights. Heres hoping there are legs in this rumour - would be a great signing. Tough as nails but with more offensive upside than Janssen. Had numerous scraps with well known enforcers over the years including Janssen, Mirasty, Bordeleau, Henley, Brashear, Laraque, to name but a few
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Post by PantherB on Sept 2, 2016 13:40:15 GMT
He hasn't faired too well against the big names, Mirasty has beat him every time, Laraque destroyed him.
He did very well in all fights against Cam, KO'd McIver. He looks a lot more old school fighter than Cam did, doesn't particularly have much interest in using tactics to make the opponent make a mistake, just completely unloads on them.
He'd do very well over here but i'd hope if we signed him we'd use him as more than an enforcer, he's borderline enforcer and much more, in recent years a Power Forward.
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Post by wgray on Sept 2, 2016 14:30:27 GMT
Good rumour this, I hope it materialises! Tough bloke and I'm sure he will contribute on the scoreboard for us, fingers crossed
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2016 18:17:04 GMT
That kills the silly lepine to Belfast rumour
Giants sign Mike Quesnaele (ex blaze)
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Post by shmyrohdear on Sept 6, 2016 5:53:26 GMT
He hasn't faired too well against the big names, Mirasty has beat him every time, Laraque destroyed him. He did very well in all fights against Cam, KO'd McIver. He looks a lot more old school fighter than Cam did, doesn't particularly have much interest in using tactics to make the opponent make a mistake, just completely unloads on them. He'd do very well over here but i'd hope if we signed him we'd use him as more than an enforcer, he's borderline enforcer and much more, in recent years a Power Forward. To be fair Mirasty and Laraque would paste almost anyone that's been in this league and toss them out the building for good measure too, they're ridiculous fighters. I certainly wouldn't complain at all at this if it came true. I'd see him providing the same style at Biss did for Cardiff.
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Post by Doom on Sept 6, 2016 6:48:25 GMT
You look short of goals to me, so it would certainly benefit you if your final forward is someone who can mix things up whilst also contributing a fair few points.
Looking at Gratton's pedigree I think he'd be ideal. He'd be at least as tough as the likes of Fitzgerald, but also able to contribute about 20 goals to your 3rd line.
What you don't need now is a one dimensional knuckle dragger to complete your roster. In the past you had the firepower to accommodate a player like that, but I don't believe you have it this season.
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Post by dill1015 on Sept 6, 2016 7:03:31 GMT
You look short of goals to me, so it would certainly benefit you if your final forward is someone who can mix things up whilst also contributing a fair few points. Looking at Gratton's pedigree I think he'd be ideal. He'd be at least as tough as the likes of Fitzgerald, but also able to contribute about 20 goals to your 3rd line. What you don't need now is a one dimensional knuckle dragger to complete your roster. In the past you had the firepower to accommodate a player like that, but I don't believe you have it this season. Regards Doom I agree. Someone like Gratton or Tarnasky would be ideal. I'll be pretty disappointed if we sign a player like John Scott. (Bet we do though) In an ideal world i'd also swap 1 or our transition d men for a Lepine type player. Better balance on the d and solid secondary toughness.
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Post by Zukiwskyfan on Sept 6, 2016 9:48:16 GMT
I really don't get why Tarnasky's name keeps being brought up. He's not even an enforcer and when he does drop the gloves he's an awful fighter.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 11:43:51 GMT
I really don't get why Tarnasky's name keeps being brought up. He's not even an enforcer and when he does drop the gloves he's an awful fighter. Which enforcer do you recommend then who will stick up for his team and weigh in with points and around 10-15 goals ?
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Post by Zukiwskyfan on Sept 6, 2016 12:55:05 GMT
Garet Hunt, Emerson Clark or Josh Gratton. They are just a couple of names off the top of my head. The team needs an enforcer but my honest opinion I think we have bigger problems than that. I think the recruitment has been poor.
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Post by jdizpt8 on Sept 6, 2016 13:45:20 GMT
Get a John Scott - Justin Johnson - Frazer McLaren type in as an out and out enforcer who can look after the team and just have some faith that over the coming weeks the team will gel and we'll see more fluidity to the play and more production from the forwards. And if that fails hide behind the sofa until April.
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Post by deke on Sept 6, 2016 13:55:48 GMT
Tbh first priority is a high energy fighter who will hit a bonus if they can net us some points. Give this team credit though brown and Carter both look good team just needs to gel. With wiikman back in goal schultz back in the line up we will be ok. Fairly happy with the team just need some tweaks and Corey to understand where they play best and play them there! Still optimistic at this point.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Sept 6, 2016 15:49:45 GMT
Just getting a knuckle dragger who can't bring anything else to the game would be a HUGE waste of an import slot and I don't think CN would ever do that again
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Post by deke on Sept 6, 2016 16:57:11 GMT
True I'm just saying first thing on Corey checklist for the perfect guy is having those knuckle dragging qualities, able to check and then points production. All well and good getting another goal scorer if we can't protect ourselves. All that will happen is the bigger teams will bully us causing more injuries.
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Post by iginla on Sept 6, 2016 17:35:08 GMT
True I'm just saying first thing on Corey checklist for the perfect guy is having those knuckle dragging qualities, able to check and then points production. All well and good getting another goal scorer if we can't protect ourselves. All that will happen is the bigger teams will bully us causing more injuries. I think Corey's in a hole here,because it isn't going to be easy to find a fighter,hitter,15 goal man. A proper fighter isn't going to get the points we need and a 15 goal part fighter/hitter isn't going to want to fight some of this years big guys every night. Say a Salters ? Yes he would probably get the goals,but would he want to be fighting proper tough guys every night....i doubt it. We should have signed that tough Dman to back him up,that's where we've gone wrong.
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Post by deke on Sept 6, 2016 17:56:04 GMT
Agreed ingla, think that perhaps the defenceman was signed before cam quit and announced after. Corey is now in a tough spot trying to get the perfect guy. Whether or not we get this perfect guy is debatable. John Scott Justin Johnson mcgratten or Josh gratton all would do a job for us in a different way.
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Post by dill1015 on Sept 6, 2016 17:58:29 GMT
True I'm just saying first thing on Corey checklist for the perfect guy is having those knuckle dragging qualities, able to check and then points production. All well and good getting another goal scorer if we can't protect ourselves. All that will happen is the bigger teams will bully us causing more injuries. I think Corey's in a hole here,because it isn't going to be easy to find a fighter,hitter,15 goal man. A proper fighter isn't going to get the points we need and a 15 goal part fighter/hitter isn't going to want to fight some of this years big guys every night. Say a Salters ? Yes he would probably get the goals,but would he want to be fighting proper tough guys every night....i doubt it. We should have signed that tough Dman to back him up,that's where we've gone wrong. I completely agree about the defence. I wanted us to sign a big stay at home guys with secondary toughness. I think all our d men look decent but the balance doesnt look right. And so far in the few games we've played thats been an area of trouble for us, being caught on odd man rushes. This more than goals is my concern in the team.
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Post by dill1015 on Sept 6, 2016 17:59:51 GMT
Agreed ingla, think that perhaps the defenceman was signed before cam quit and announced after. Corey is now in a tough spot trying to get the perfect guy. Whether or not we get this perfect guy is debatable. John Scott Justin Johnson mcgratten or Josh gratton all would do a job for us in a different way. Of those 4 Gratton probaly looks most suitable to our needs, but its still not ideal.
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Post by deke on Sept 6, 2016 18:07:24 GMT
That's the issue if we knew further in advance we could have sorted it. We don't have that time, we need someone in to do a job. We wait too long and um and ah about it we will lose out and get someone who is a massive downgrade on cam and can't protect our guys and can't energise the fans and team. The four guys mentioned could do that job. Could even get a few points out of some of them some more than others. They all however will bring that physical nature and stop players like schultz or nikiforuk being targeted
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 18:16:50 GMT
So if we'd signed Cam we would have been clearly short of goals then I take it. That's what were saying here, yes?
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Sept 6, 2016 18:18:51 GMT
That is where Cardiff have got it right. Bordeleau is their main threat as far as toughness goes, but he'll put up decent points too and they have several big tough guys who don't mind putting in a big hit or fight when needed (Lord, Louis, Batch etc).
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