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Post by The Cat's Whiskers on Sept 23, 2019 19:55:47 GMT
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Post by The Cat's Whiskers on Sept 30, 2019 19:58:50 GMT
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Post by The Cat's Whiskers on Oct 7, 2019 11:50:23 GMT
The TCW Podcast will be live tonight at 8:45 as usual but will take a different format as we have a free & frank discussion on where do Panthers go from here? We want your thoughts as well so please do get involved. All opinions are appreciated.
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Post by The Cat's Whiskers on Oct 7, 2019 20:00:45 GMT
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Post by The Cat's Whiskers on Oct 14, 2019 8:44:28 GMT
A new article on the TCW Website. Rhys Williams makes his writing debut for TCW with this piece about Panthers current woes and how they've been manifesting for some time. Click on the link below to read. wp.me/P6zbpB-1tF
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Post by grrm on Oct 14, 2019 11:40:40 GMT
A new article on the TCW Website. Rhys Williams makes his writing debut for TCW with this piece about Panthers current woes and how they've been manifesting for some time. Click on the link below to read. wp.me/P6zbpB-1tFA good read and all very much hits the nail on the head throughout the article. Panthers really are a laughing stock with absolutely no sign that things will improve anytime soon.
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Post by bobness on Oct 16, 2019 11:13:09 GMT
A new article on the TCW Website. Rhys Williams makes his writing debut for TCW with this piece about Panthers current woes and how they've been manifesting for some time. Click on the link below to read. wp.me/P6zbpB-1tFA good read and all very much hits the nail on the head throughout the article. Panthers really are a laughing stock with absolutely no sign that things will improve anytime soon. None of it is exactly news, though, is it? All the points made in it are made week in week out on here. Black's ownership, the Clan, Steelers getting replacements in quickly and Panthers not, no league titles since 2013, duff fixture scheduling, out of the title race by Christmas or earlier etc. Personally, I'd rather sign the right forward than a quick fix, because let's face it, Panthers' mid season signings are rarely game changers (with the greatest of respect, Sarkanis, Hardy, Kalus the last time etc) so I'm not too worried IF we get a goody when they come. But that does have to be the case. Waiting 2 weeks for a 34 year old player out of the Allsvenskan would be a kick... And the fact that the writer thinks that Golovkovs, Quist and Bulmer have scored one goal between them out of the 31 this season when it's actually four (Quist 3, Golovkovs 1) out of 32 (17 league, 15 cup) doesn't do it any favours. It probably still illustrates the point that Bulmer and Golvkovs have only one between them so far, but it's not a difficult fact to check. The sentence "Sam Herr became the first import forward to find the net since Jon Rheault back on the 21st of September which continues to make it evident our attack is, to be frank, woeful" doesn't make much sense either. Herr scored in the game on 29th September in Glasgow, so the sentence appears to be suggest that Panthers' attack is woeful because no import forward scored in the games on 22nd (when Panthers were shutout) and the 28th September. Panthers attack is pretty woeful currently, but that isn't the reason. I agree wholeheartedly about the offensive zone character, though. It's all a bit "after you, Claude" for me, the team appear shot shy and only Herr seems willing to take that mantle. The fact that Bulmer and Golovkovs between them have less shots than Herr on his own is testament to that. Herr is currently taking one in 6 of the team shots in the league. Panthers are being outshout by an average of 6.5 shots per game so far, and in 5 of those 13 games, outshot by 10 or more, 4 of those games by 17 or more. Panthers have conceded over 40 shots 4 times out of those 13, only 3 times have shots conceded been kept to under 25. That isn't helping either. Personally, I think the current major problem is that the forwards are hugely low on confidence, and don't appear to want to shoot (Herr and a couple of other excepted). You don't shoot, you don't score. 1 in 12 shots in the league are going in. I've no idea what the other league teams' stats are, but I'd wager that is one of the lowest. Couple with that the fact that average shots taken is only about 25, and has only been in the 30s three games all season, it all adds up to a lot of work for the coach. Now is the time for Wallace to prove himself.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 11:21:06 GMT
A good read and all very much hits the nail on the head throughout the article. Panthers really are a laughing stock with absolutely no sign that things will improve anytime soon. None of it is exactly news, though, is it? All the points made in it are made week in week out on here. Black's ownership, the Clan, Steelers getting replacements in quickly and Panthers not, no league titles since 2013, duff fixture scheduling, out of the title race by Christmas or earlier etc. Personally, I'd rather sign the right forward than a quick fix, because let's face it, Panthers' mid season signings are rarely game changers (with the greatest of respect, Sarkanis, Hardy, Kalus the last time etc) so I'm not too worried IF we get a goody when they come. But that does have to be the case. Waiting 2 weeks for a 34 year old player out of the Allsvenskan would be a kick... And the fact that the writer thinks that Golovkovs, Quist and Bulmer have scored one goal between them out of the 31 this season when it's actually four (Quist 3, Golovkovs 1) out of 32 (17 league, 15 cup) doesn't do it any favours. It probably still illustrates the point that Bulmer and Golvkovs have only one between them so far, but it's not a difficult fact to check. The sentence "Sam Herr became the first import forward to find the net since Jon Rheault back on the 21st of September which continues to make it evident our attack is, to be frank, woeful" doesn't make much sense either. Herr scored in the game on 29th September in Glasgow, so the sentence appears to be suggest that Panthers' attack is woeful because no import forward scored in the games on 22nd (when Panthers were shutout) and the 28th September. Panthers attack is pretty woeful currently, but that isn't the reason. I agree wholeheartedly about the offensive zone character, though. It's all a bit "after you, Claude" for me, the team appear shot shy and only Herr seems willing to take that mantle. The fact that Bulmer and Golovkovs between them have less shots than Herr on his own is testament to that. Herr is currently taking one in 6 of the team shots in the league. Panthers are being outshout by an average of 6.5 shots per game so far, and in 5 of those 13 games, outshot by 10 or more, 4 of those games by 17 or more. Panthers have conceded over 40 shots 4 times out of those 13, only 3 times have shots conceded been kept to under 25. That isn't helping either. Personally, I think the current major problem is that the forwards are hugely low on confidence, and don't appear to want to shoot (Herr and a couple of other excepted). You don't shoot, you don't score. 1 in 12 shots in the league are going in. I've no idea what the other league teams' stats are, but I'd wager that is one of the lowest. Couple with that the fact that average shots taken is only about 25, and has only been in the 30s three games all season, it all adds up to a lot of work for the coach. Now is the time for Wallace to prove himself. You say you prefer to wait for the right forward to come along well that right forward will command a decent wage therefore black refusing to sanction it most likely therefore plan B will be auctioned with a lesser older player from a lesser league.. ive seen it a million times with this club. And for the record Rhys writes a excellent article
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Post by Yotes on Oct 16, 2019 11:35:22 GMT
The old right player/quick fix thing falls down a bit with the given example of Kyle Hardy. We did wait ages for him, he was heralded as the right guy - we didn't rush out and sign just anyone like these other idiots, aren't we clever.
10 games later, sacked.
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Post by kievthegreat on Oct 16, 2019 11:39:36 GMT
The old right player/quick fix thing falls down a bit with the given example of Kyle Hardy. We did wait ages for him, he was heralded as the right guy - we didn't rush out and sign just anyone like these other idiots, aren't we clever. 10 games later, sacked. Did he really last that long? Good grief!
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Post by bobness on Oct 16, 2019 11:51:36 GMT
The old right player/quick fix thing falls down a bit with the given example of Kyle Hardy. We did wait ages for him, he was heralded as the right guy - we didn't rush out and sign just anyone like these other idiots, aren't we clever. 10 games later, sacked. I genuinely can't remember how long the gap was between whoever leaving and Hardy being signed, but he didn't suit at all, I agree. Interestingly, he's still putting up big numbers in France.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 16, 2019 12:06:11 GMT
The old right player/quick fix thing falls down a bit with the given example of Kyle Hardy. We did wait ages for him, he was heralded as the right guy - we didn't rush out and sign just anyone like these other idiots, aren't we clever. 10 games later, sacked. We he on the radar?
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 16, 2019 12:06:50 GMT
The old right player/quick fix thing falls down a bit with the given example of Kyle Hardy. We did wait ages for him, he was heralded as the right guy - we didn't rush out and sign just anyone like these other idiots, aren't we clever. 10 games later, sacked. I genuinely can't remember how long the gap was between whoever leaving and Hardy being signed, but he didn't suit at all, I agree. Interestingly, he's still putting up big numbers in France. That goes for a lot of our rejects I have noticed.
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Post by The Cat's Whiskers on Oct 16, 2019 12:13:04 GMT
A new article on The Cat’s Whiskers website written by Shaun Drummond, revealing how coming to watch Panthers for the first time in 2009 inspired a greater involvement with the game. Have a read on the link below: wp.me/P6zbpB-1tM
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Post by bobness on Oct 16, 2019 12:29:42 GMT
I genuinely can't remember how long the gap was between whoever leaving and Hardy being signed, but he didn't suit at all, I agree. Interestingly, he's still putting up big numbers in France. That goes for a lot of our rejects I have noticed. Some do seem to go on to better performances than they did in a Panthers shirt, yes. Hardy is a good example. Shalla currently has 21 points in 12 games in the Erste Liga (Hungary/Rumania) after a season and 3/4 of point a game ECHL time, Sarkanis is currently playing in the KHL for Riga. Chris Stewart is another... 13 shfts, 9.12 TOI and 3 hits in his return to the Show.
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Post by The Cat's Whiskers on Oct 17, 2019 10:51:50 GMT
Our 3rd brand new contributor of the week on the TCW Website. In this article Mike Lee gives his thoughts on Neil Black’s BBC Nottingham Sport appearance along with thoughts on Panthers current plight. Have a read on the link below. wp.me/P6zbpB-1tT
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Post by grrm on Oct 17, 2019 12:17:48 GMT
Our 3rd brand new contributor of the week on the TCW Website. In this article Mike Lee gives his thoughts on Neil Black’s BBC Nottingham Sport appearance along with thoughts on Panthers current plight. Have a read on the link below. wp.me/P6zbpB-1tT Nice article Mike. I’m sure luck does play a big part in whether a rock band or sports team succeeds, but as for the BBC interview with NB all I saw was an owner who claims to be a fan, but someone who lacks the passion and the drive that’s needed to drive the club forward and without that drive it’s difficult to “make your own luck”. It is this that many talk about when they say the culture/ethos of the club is wrong and it stems from the top. NB comes across as a nice guy who is happy with his life as it is, fair play to him, but that won’t propel this club forward.
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Post by The Cat's Whiskers on Oct 17, 2019 18:23:24 GMT
This weeks TCW Podcast will be live tonight at the slightly later time of 9pm on the link below. Jono Bullard, Paul Balm, Tina Taylor & Andy Haywood will discuss Panthers new signing Jake Hansen & dissect Neil Black’s BBC Nottingham Sport interview. Don’t miss it. spreaker.com/user/cwtv
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Post by The Cat's Whiskers on Oct 17, 2019 20:11:01 GMT
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Post by The Cat's Whiskers on Oct 17, 2019 22:53:22 GMT
In this weeks TCW Podcast we discuss Panthers signing of former Coventry Blaze forward Jake Hansen & dissect Neil Black’s BBC Nottingham Sport interview along with your comments and opinions. It’s a meaty one so settle down with a large beverage and enjoy. Download or stream from this link: wp.me/P6zbpB-1u5
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Post by The Cat's Whiskers on Oct 21, 2019 11:58:35 GMT
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Post by texpef on Oct 26, 2019 7:35:16 GMT
Our 3rd brand new contributor of the week on the TCW Website. In this article Mike Lee gives his thoughts on Neil Black’s BBC Nottingham Sport appearance along with thoughts on Panthers current plight. Have a read on the link below. wp.me/P6zbpB-1tT Well written and an interesting take on the theme but I just have a few issues with this particular blog:- 1. He claims we have a decent budget, I take issue with this. Its pretty simple supply and demand, if you want a rolls Royce then you pay rolls Royce prices and if you want a lada (look em up if you are too young) then paying peanuts that's what you get. This is the same in sport the world over, you don't think the clubs pay top premiership players several hundreds of thousands pounds a week because they look pretty on the pitch? This translates into hockey also at all levels especially ours. If you look at the pedigrees of the top 3/4 teams in the country and yes I'm including braehead or whatever they are called this year, then our squad doesn't come close to matching them and with the support and sponsorship available in Nottingham then there is no reason that we shouldn't be. 2. Again he states its the same budget as last year, I contest this again by looking at the squad pedigrees, like for like we either paid over the odds for what is 2nd/3rd line players or the budget has been cut, especially when you look at the established expensive brits that have left over the past 5-6 years that have not been replaced. 3. Yes it would appear given the quality of their squad and the haste with which they have released and replaced players that they are serious about getting back to winning ways real shame this drive isn't seen in Notts. 4. Mmmmm clan comment massive assumption that they are getting quality players on the cheap which they will not be, If you know you are rolls Royce quality you are not going to pimp yourself out at skoda prices... Last couple of points you mention that he should maybe have replaced players sooner then you give the club an out saying its difficult... Doh how come other clubs especially our rivals seem to do this with ease, if the management aren't up to the job move them on and get in some that are, it really is that simple, do you think you would be in your job for long if you stank at it? BIGGEST point here, you claim panthers lack of success is down to LUCK? I'm sorry but this is so naïve, panthers must have broke a shop full of mirrors, kicked a million cats and walked under a thousand ladders to have this much bad luck. I have been following panthers since I started work and im in mid 50s now. I have seen them win the league ONCE and this is with them allegedly living with the big boys since 2000 and moving into the shiny new arena, in that time the likes of Coventry, Belfast, and even Cardiff have won it more times all relatively new clubs (im including Cardiff and they also pretty much started from scratch). So what you are saying is they had more luck? OK we are left with your choices:- tbh in my case this not attending games has been a slow decline for several years now in fact pretty much the following year when we won the league as it was clear then that they were not going to spend what was required to create a dynasty as they promised. This season I have been to a handful of games most of which I didn't really enjoy so yes I am voting with my feet and wallet till I see a marked improvement and if not well at least I wont have wasted my money watching other clubs win trophies. Its personal opinion and if you are happy to watch us lose repeatedly with an inferior squad as you say that's your choice and hockey is addictive when its good to watch but personally have watched it for decades I have put my time in already watching other clubs snatch the glory and i will return when a squad worthy of the Nottingham fans is put on the ice.
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Post by iginla on Oct 26, 2019 15:42:18 GMT
Our 3rd brand new contributor of the week on the TCW Website. In this article Mike Lee gives his thoughts on Neil Black’s BBC Nottingham Sport appearance along with thoughts on Panthers current plight. Have a read on the link below. wp.me/P6zbpB-1tT Well written and an interesting take on the theme but I just have a few issues with this particular blog:- 1. He claims we have a decent budget, I take issue with this. Its pretty simple supply and demand, if you want a rolls Royce then you pay rolls Royce prices and if you want a lada (look em up if you are too young) then paying peanuts that's what you get. This is the same in sport the world over, you don't think the clubs pay top premiership players several hundreds of thousands pounds a week because they look pretty on the pitch? This translates into hockey also at all levels especially ours. If you look at the pedigrees of the top 3/4 teams in the country and yes I'm including braehead or whatever they are called this year, then our squad doesn't come close to matching them and with the support and sponsorship available in Nottingham then there is no reason that we shouldn't be. 2. Again he states its the same budget as last year, I contest this again by looking at the squad pedigrees, like for like we either paid over the odds for what is 2nd/3rd line players or the budget has been cut, especially when you look at the established expensive brits that have left over the past 5-6 years that have not been replaced. 3. Yes it would appear given the quality of their squad and the haste with which they have released and replaced players that they are serious about getting back to winning ways real shame this drive isn't seen in Notts. 4. Mmmmm clan comment massive assumption that they are getting quality players on the cheap which they will not be, If you know you are rolls Royce quality you are not going to pimp yourself out at skoda prices... Last couple of points you mention that he should maybe have replaced players sooner then you give the club an out saying its difficult... Doh how come other clubs especially our rivals seem to do this with ease, if the management aren't up to the job move them on and get in some that are, it really is that simple, do you think you would be in your job for long if you stank at it? BIGGEST point here, you claim panthers lack of success is down to LUCK? I'm sorry but this is so naïve, panthers must have broke a shop full of mirrors, kicked a million cats and walked under a thousand ladders to have this much bad luck. I have been following panthers since I started work and im in mid 50s now. I have seen them win the league ONCE and this is with them allegedly living with the big boys since 2000 and moving into the shiny new arena, in that time the likes of Coventry, Belfast, and even Cardiff have won it more times all relatively new clubs (im including Cardiff and they also pretty much started from scratch). So what you are saying is they had more luck? OK we are left with your choices:- tbh in my case this not attending games has been a slow decline for several years now in fact pretty much the following year when we won the league as it was clear then that they were not going to spend what was required to create a dynasty as they promised. This season I have been to a handful of games most of which I didn't really enjoy so yes I am voting with my feet and wallet till I see a marked improvement and if not well at least I wont have wasted my money watching other clubs win trophies. Its personal opinion and if you are happy to watch us lose repeatedly with an inferior squad as you say that's your choice and hockey is addictive when its good to watch but personally have watched it for decades I have put my time in already watching other clubs snatch the glory and i will return when a squad worthy of the Nottingham fans is put on the ice. Well said Tex you’ve nailed it well and truly there. Mr Black might think he’s given Panthers a good budget but he admits he doesn’t know what other teams are spending so how can he know it’s a competitive budget. He may think £10k a week is a good budget,but if there are two or three other teams spending £15k or £20k a week then he’s wrong it’s not a good budget. There is only one reason Panthers can get outspent and that’s because Black won’t spend what’s needed to compete.
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Post by The Cat's Whiskers on Oct 30, 2019 11:49:11 GMT
The Cat’s Whiskers Podcast has now been added to Deezer & Podcast Addict, joining Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Castbox, Spreaker, RSS & YouTube as platforms where you can listen to us. All links to you preferred platform can be found here thecatswhiskersonline.com/the-podcast/
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Post by The Cat's Whiskers on Oct 31, 2019 0:29:19 GMT
Tina Taylor, Adam Reddish, Joe Balm, Paul Balm and Jono Bullard retire to the Bunkers Hill following the mid-week win against the Dundee Stars looking back on a whole week’s worth of Cup and League games against the Storm, Blaze, Flyers and the aforementioned Stars. There’s also a talking point around Panthers social media and the panel work through your interactions. Download or stream from this link: wp.me/P6zbpB-1uh
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