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Post by tootoo on Oct 3, 2010 18:28:47 GMT
Tell you what, let's sign him and stick him on the fourth line, next to Wardy. Even if we don't need him and a much smaller, needier team really want to sign him, sign him anyway JUST TO SHOW THAT WE CAN!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with the man earlier, let's use our financial clout. We're the biggest team in the league for fudges sake and it's a priviledge for any young Brit to play on our fourth line. More of a priviledge than to play for Manchester or Newcastle.
And who cares if he gets a couple of minutes a game and develops along the same lines as Neilly. As least he can say he's kitted up with the Panthers. At least he can say he played for the biggest team in the league.
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Post by abi on Oct 4, 2010 8:35:19 GMT
More of a priviledge than to play for Manchester or Newcastle. Dunno like, he's more likely to win a league title in Manchester than Nottingham And don't knock Newcastle, I think we were the only team to beat you twice on your own ice in the last season? And last year, to be quite honest, we sucked. Those are the games you should've been winning if you're so high and mighty, and what probably cost you a league title. I couldn't see Farmer sticking around to be 4th line fodder, when he knows he can command ice time at least on the 2nd or 3rd line in the EIHL, and top line in the EPL.
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Post by howeaboutthat on Oct 4, 2010 20:05:37 GMT
Sir Tony of Hand is a great player, no question... A great player within British hockey without a doubt but a great player when pitted against the wider hockey community? Yes, I know he was drafted to an NHL team (252nd overall pick in '86 wasn't it?) but players who'd never be called 'a great player' have been drafted much higher. Where they differ from Tony Hand though is that they have often been pitted against those who compete at the highest level of hockey and proved wanting. Tony Hand though departed back towards the British Isles not long after his draft was announced and spent his career being a big fish in a very small pond. There are players who have played/are playing in the NHL who couldn't really be described as 'great' players so how someone who has never played at that level can be described in such terms is beyond me, unless as I said at the start you mean purely within the realms of British hockey.
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Post by pantherinmanc on Oct 4, 2010 20:13:09 GMT
If offered a chance to play in Nottingham, Farmer should snap Corey's hand off. If he has any aspirations of being a bigtime player he'll believe in himself enough to believe he'll make it as more than a 4th line player. Going to Newcastle or Manchester over the likes of Panthers, Steelers, Blaze or Giants would show two things, lack of ambition and lack of self belief.
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Post by howeaboutthat on Oct 4, 2010 20:15:53 GMT
Going to Newcastle.......would show two things, lack of ambition and lack of self belief. Perhaps he wants to play in a rink with 'atmosphere', not too much ice in the corners, oh and possible structural issues.
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Post by abi on Oct 4, 2010 20:24:43 GMT
Going to Newcastle or Manchester over the likes of Panthers, Steelers, Blaze or Giants would show two things, lack of ambition and lack of self belief. Or alternatively it would show that none can accomodate him without throwing their balance sheets skew-wiff. I'd imagine that for the likes of the Steelers, surviving the season is marginally more important than one british player walking onto a team and either riding the pine pony or annoying someone on a line by taking their spot. Especially when he can command more than his last stint in britain. Kronwalled, Tony was very much considered the Wildcard, almost joke pick of the '86 draft and he never got to play for the Oilers in the end. Had he stayed there, he'd not have come back to these shores in a hurry.
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Post by pantherdman on Oct 4, 2010 20:48:52 GMT
He got out of Sheffield fast, so he must have something right in the brains department.
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Post by pantherinmanc on Oct 5, 2010 8:04:51 GMT
Or alternatively it would show that none can accomodate him without throwing their balance sheets skew-wiff. I'd imagine that for the likes of the Steelers, surviving the season is marginally more important Yep, balancing the books is certainly right at the top of Sheffield's agenda........
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Post by howeaboutthat on Oct 5, 2010 9:01:28 GMT
Kronwalled, Tony was very much considered the Wildcard, almost joke pick of the '86 draft and he never got to play for the Oilers in the end. Had he stayed there, he'd not have come back to these shores in a hurry[/i].[/quote] Fact is though he didn't stay there, he hasn't competed against the best in the sport and as such any comments based on his ability or 'greatness' are pure conjecture. Yes, in British hockey he might be considered 'a great player', big whoop. The British hockey scene is not exactly the highest level of the sport, far from it in fact. To be considered 'great ' in any sport you have to have played and proven yourself at the highest level. Walking away from 'the show' and returning to a hockey backwater because of homesickness could also be construed as displaying a complete lack of ambition, hardly the mark of a great player. Perhaps I'm being a little unfair on Tony Hand or perhaps not being born British I don't have some innate wish to daisy chain also-rans. More likely though is this naturalized Brit isn't alone in his views and British-born hockey fans also scratch their heads over the Tony Hand love-ins?
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Post by pantherinmanc on Oct 5, 2010 9:27:22 GMT
Kronwalled, Tony was very much considered the Wildcard, almost joke pick of the '86 draft and he never got to play for the Oilers in the end. Had he stayed there, he'd not have come back to these shores in a hurry[/i].[/quote] Fact is though he didn't stay there, he hasn't competed against the best in the sport and as such any comments based on his ability or 'greatness' are pure conjecture. Yes, in British hockey he might be considered 'a great player', big whoop. The British hockey scene is not exactly the highest level of the sport, far from it in fact. To be considered 'great ' in any sport you have to have played and proven yourself at the highest level. Walking away from 'the show' and returning to a hockey backwater because of homesickness could also be construed as displaying a complete lack of ambition, hardly the mark of a great player. Perhaps I'm being a little unfair on Tony Hand or perhaps not being born British I don't have some innate wish to daisy chain also-rans. More likely though is this naturalized Brit isn't alone in his views and British-born hockey fans also scratch their heads over the Tony Hand love-ins?[/quote] I think you speak for a lot of hockey fans with what you are saying mate, Tony has been a great servant of the sport, a superb player on these shores but he can only really be considered a great within the confines of this country. In fact what you say about homesickness and taking the easy option could also be indicative of where he plies his trade today, in the amateur ranks of the UK game. Not exactly pushing boundaries is he. It's a bit of a taboo I guess, criticising Tony Hand. It's a bit of a running joke that players aren't allowed to check him and refs rarely give him penalties. I don't want to make out that he's not a gifted hockey player, he absolutely is, but it goes a bit far sometimes.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 5, 2010 10:44:29 GMT
Perhaps I'm being a little unfair on Tony Hand or perhaps not being born British I don't have some innate wish to daisy chain also-rans. More likely though is this naturalized Brit isn't alone in his views and British-born hockey fans also scratch their heads over the Tony Hand love-ins? Nope, you're not alone. I always feel disappointment regarding Hand really, that he didn't stick at it in Canada. He's certainly the greatest British player we've ever produced, but there's no way to grade him in a global sense. Wonder what a British NHLer, if he could've got that far, would've done for the game over here? It's a shame, he wasted his talents to a degree, IMO.
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Post by Rob Scott on Oct 5, 2010 10:48:44 GMT
Tell you what, let's sign him and stick him on the fourth line, next to Wardy. Even if we don't need him and a much smaller, needier team really want to sign him, sign him anyway JUST TO SHOW THAT WE CAN!!!!!!!!!! I agree with the man earlier, let's use our financial clout. We're the biggest team in the league for fudges sake and it's a priviledge for any young Brit to play on our fourth line. More of a priviledge than to play for Manchester or Newcastle. And who cares if he gets a couple of minutes a game and develops along the same lines as Neilly. As least he can say he's kitted up with the Panthers. At least he can say he played for the biggest team in the league. One of the most tedious and pathetic posts I have ever seen.
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Post by pantherdman on Oct 5, 2010 11:52:36 GMT
Tell you what, let's sign him and stick him on the fourth line, next to Wardy. Even if we don't need him and a much smaller, needier team really want to sign him, sign him anyway JUST TO SHOW THAT WE CAN!!!!!!!!!! I agree with the man earlier, let's use our financial clout. We're the biggest team in the league for fudges sake and it's a priviledge for any young Brit to play on our fourth line. More of a priviledge than to play for Manchester or Newcastle. And who cares if he gets a couple of minutes a game and develops along the same lines as Neilly. As least he can say he's kitted up with the Panthers. At least he can say he played for the biggest team in the league. One of the most tedious and pathetic posts I have ever seen. I think Tootoo, is spot on here. Panthers are too nice, thats why we dont win the league. Lets play to our strength, which is money, sign all the future brits up, buy the Lions and enter them in the EPL
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Post by Vazarenka on Oct 5, 2010 13:25:41 GMT
reported on coventry local radio this morning he has signed for the blaze
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Post by pantherdman on Oct 5, 2010 18:20:17 GMT
Another missed oppotunity. All hail the new Weaver.
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