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Post by pantherfan007 on Oct 27, 2011 8:09:16 GMT
Ok, so having had a look at the stats I was amazed to see the top four league scorers were all Panthers and we have 6 out of the top ten scorers. Also, two of the top four are Brits Myers and Clarke. Myers is second in the league for assists and Clarke second in the league for goals. (But I'm sure some people will still want to criticise him  ) Myers is scoring at the same rate as DAB and better than Clarke for the first ever season. While it's still early doors, is this the year that Matthew is staking his claim as the best Brit in the league? It will be an interesting little mini-competition with him and Clarke and I'm sure it hasn't gone unnoticed in the dressing room. Also, when was the last time we had 6 of the 10 top points scorers? |
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Post by pantherfan007 on Oct 27, 2011 8:14:02 GMT
Also, if you want to see us top of the league, go to the eliteleague website click on 'statistics' from the top menu then click on 'standings' on the lower grey menu bar, not the top blue one. Hey presto we are top of the league.
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Post by Pies on Oct 27, 2011 8:28:57 GMT
Myers is the best British Power forward in the league no shadow of a doubt. I'd say Clarke is the best British sniper in the league and Lacho is the best young Brit in the league. I could go through all our Brits (that play week in, week out) and I'd say we'd got the best Brit (Steve Lee, best young Brit defence man, Danny best Captain in the league and Levers best Brit 2 way forward)
The stats say he's the top Brit with points but each has their own merits for their respective roles. All I know is, I wouldnt change any of our Brits for any others in the league.
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Post by rach09 on Oct 27, 2011 8:38:24 GMT
Myers is the best British Power forward in the league no shadow of a doubt. I'd say Clarke is the best British sniper in the league and Lacho is the best young Brit in the league. I could go through all our Brits (that play week in, week out) and I'd say we'd got the best Brit (Steve Lee, best young Brit defence man, Danny best Captain in the league and Levers best Brit 2 way forward) The stats say he's the top Brit with points but each has their own merits for their respective roles. All I know is, I wouldnt change any of our Brits for any others in the league. Pretty much took the words out of my mouth!! |
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Post by sparkymark75 on Oct 27, 2011 9:00:30 GMT
Whilst they all undoubtedly have talent, does the fact that they play in a strong Panthers team mean they have more opportunity to shine? Put one of those players in the Flyers team and I doubt you'd see them do so well!
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Post by panthersdave on Oct 27, 2011 9:08:19 GMT
Whilst they all undoubtedly have talent, does the fact that they play in a strong Panthers team mean they have more opportunity to shine? Put one of those players in the Flyers team and I doubt you'd see them do so well! Disagree, Myers is a different player to the one that went across the pond, he's bigger, stronger, more aggressive and is a better scater. Always had the talent but now we see it more consistantly. He would benefit any Elite League side |
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Post by Rob Scott on Oct 27, 2011 9:15:21 GMT
This question is a complete no brainer.
Levers is clearly the best Brit in the league....
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Post by Doughnut on Oct 27, 2011 9:23:40 GMT
All I know is, I wouldnt change any of our Brits for any others in the league. All else being equal I'd take Murphy for Green, Dowd for Lachowicz and Weaver for Lee. |
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Post by rach09 on Oct 27, 2011 9:30:22 GMT
Weaver is knackered and injury prone, I think he's well into his 30's and has been overworked, Steve Lee is a star, my only concern is whether we can hang onto him! Wouldn't swap Lacho and Murphy would be nice!!
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Post by Pies on Oct 27, 2011 9:41:27 GMT
All I know is, I wouldnt change any of our Brits for any others in the league. All else being equal I'd take Murphy for Green, Dowd for Lachowicz and Weaver for Lee. Murphy for Green would be brilliant but impossible - Murphy wouldnt be a back up. Lacho for Dowd? Not a snowball's chance in hell would I swap them. Lacho is playing out his skin right now and hes still like what 20-21? He plays the PP, PK and 5-3 PK's - says alot about what the coaching staff think of him. I agree with Rach, Weaver is a quality player but he's had injuries, age isnt on his side and Lee has the potential to be alot better than Weaver IMO |
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Post by ashtait14 on Oct 27, 2011 9:51:34 GMT
All else being equal I'd take Murphy for Green, Dowd for Lachowicz and Weaver for Lee. Murphy for Green would be brilliant but impossible - Murphy wouldnt be a back up. Lacho for Dowd? Not a snowball's chance in hell would I swap them. Lacho is playing out his skin right now and hes still like what 20-21? He plays the PP, PK and 5-3 PK's - says alot about what the coaching staff think of him. I agree with Rach, Weaver is a quality player but he's had injuries, age isnt on his side and Lee has the potential to be alot better than Weaver IMO Myers is imo the best all round brit forward in the league, but i don't understand why you wouldn't take Dowd over Lachowicz, after all Dowdy is only 2 years older and he put up 40 more points last year  . Lachowicz has the most promise out of any Brit in the league I think though, great vision and great hands! I envy your Brit pack immensely! |
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Post by Pies on Oct 27, 2011 9:57:04 GMT
Murphy for Green would be brilliant but impossible - Murphy wouldnt be a back up. Lacho for Dowd? Not a snowball's chance in hell would I swap them. Lacho is playing out his skin right now and hes still like what 20-21? He plays the PP, PK and 5-3 PK's - says alot about what the coaching staff think of him. I agree with Rach, Weaver is a quality player but he's had injuries, age isnt on his side and Lee has the potential to be alot better than Weaver IMO Myers is imo the best all round brit forward in the league, but i don't understand why you wouldn't take Dowd over Lachowicz, after all Dowdy is only 2 years older and he put up 40 more points last year . Lachowicz has the most promise out of any Brit in the league I think though, great vision and great hands! I envy your Brit pack immensely! I rate Dowd don't get me wrong but Lacho is a Nottingham lad, he's come through all the youth teams, done his year in the EPL and proven that he's good enough at this level as well - we've invested alot of time and effort into developing him and I'd rather we saw the rewards for our labour from him. If we were able to sign Dowd and Lacho then that'd be my preference but between the 2, I prefer Lacho. Just an opinion of course. |
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Post by Rob Scott on Oct 27, 2011 9:57:38 GMT
Murphy for Green would be brilliant but impossible - Murphy wouldnt be a back up. Lacho for Dowd? Not a snowball's chance in hell would I swap them. Lacho is playing out his skin right now and hes still like what 20-21? He plays the PP, PK and 5-3 PK's - says alot about what the coaching staff think of him. I agree with Rach, Weaver is a quality player but he's had injuries, age isnt on his side and Lee has the potential to be alot better than Weaver IMO Myers is imo the best all round brit forward in the league, but i don't understand why you wouldn't take Dowd over Lachowicz, after all Dowdy is only 2 years older and he put up 40 more points last year . Lachowicz has the most promise out of any Brit in the league I think though, great vision and great hands! I envy your Brit pack immensely! Last season Dowd scored 32 more points than Lachowicz this season they both have 16 points so far. |
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Post by kezypanther on Oct 27, 2011 9:58:53 GMT
Ash im quiete glad you envy our brit pack so much as I really think they are the best in the league. As for the Dowd - Lacho situation I think it has a lot more to do than just point production, he works his socks off and is very good on PK and sometimes PP. I wouldn't swap any of our brits for any other. Maybe other than Green but haay you can't have em' all |
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Post by ashtait14 on Oct 27, 2011 10:03:21 GMT
Ash im quiete glad you envy our brit pack so much as I really think they are the best in the league. As for the Dowd - Lacho situation I think it has a lot more to do than just point production, he works his socks off and is very good on PK and sometimes PP. I wouldn't swap any of our brits for any other. Maybe other than Green but haay you can't have em' all I'd love to have Myers and someone with the passion and effort of Meyers, i'd happilly trade Squires and Tommo for them ;D I think we have a very average Brit pack, i rate Ash tait and Esders as our best which isn't brilliant but hey ho. |
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Post by doug on Oct 27, 2011 10:22:58 GMT
We have got Esders for Dowd and at present Warren Tait for Phillips. Serious downgrades. Lacho is probably on a par (and improving) with Hewitt (who isn't), and Ashley Tait is equal to any of your Brits for this season, which could be his last. Your other Brits are superior and are a big contribution this year. If you keep them all then next season they will be proper seasoned players and could go out on a regular line as good as imports! Steelers need to start looking NOW! Finding another Dowd, without doubt one of the top British players, will be difficult.
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Post by Pies on Oct 27, 2011 10:30:35 GMT
We have got Esders for Dowd and at present Warren Tait for Phillips. Serious downgrades. Lacho is probably on a par (and improving) with Hewitt (who isn't), and Ashley Tait is equal to any of your Brits for this season, which could be his last. Your other Brits are superior and are a big contribution this year. If you keep them all then next season they will be proper seasoned players and could go out on a regular line as good as imports! Steelers need to start looking NOW! Finding another Dowd, without doubt one of the top British players, will be difficult. Lacho is far better than Hewitt. Hewitt has 8 points this year compared to Lachos 16, Hewitt has 40 more PIMS than Lacho and Hewitt has never been as good as Lacho is now. Stats don't say everything but the Poodle is comparable to Levers IMO and Levers is a far better player than Hewitt too! |
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Post by Shorty on Oct 27, 2011 10:31:42 GMT
Hewitt isnt fit to tie Lacho's laces.
I thought Ashley Tait showed last Saturday that he is still a very good player. A shame that the powers that be annoyed him so much that he left.
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Post by Robbie Nud on Oct 27, 2011 11:07:20 GMT
TBH comparing Lachos stats with Dowds last year is unrealistic. On the brit line up between the two where were they? Dowd was signed as on e of the top 2 brits for shuff and Lacho wasn't for us. If, say, he was the number 3 brit how does that compare with their 3rd brit? Probably well ahead.
Last season Lacho gained immensely from being on a line with Bellemy and Ryan and it showed. If you look at this season, see how better Levers is playing so far this season than last (not that he played badly last season) and this must down to his line mates (who was it last season - galbraith 'nuff said).
My thoughts are that this team does not know when its beat, plays to the buzzer. Braehead for example leading by 4 goals and the games won yet still score with 6 sec left on the game instead of letting the clock run down. How many games have we gone 2 goals down? Past teams have let their heads drop and struggled to get back in the game, but this squad simply plays with more intensity.
I'm not a big fan of CN as he makes too many simple errors during a game and then trys too hard to make amends sometimes resulting in another mistake, but for his recruiting this year cannot be faulted. He make not have signed the best players but it looks like he signed the right players.
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Post by pantherdman on Oct 27, 2011 11:40:14 GMT
Myers is the best Brit in the league, i said this last season
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Post by doug on Oct 27, 2011 13:56:23 GMT
Hewitt is not my favourite player and this season is much quieter but he is still as good as Lacho, for now!
Tait is still equal or better than Myers as well but again, for now! Your other Brits kill us off though.
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Post by ted logan on Oct 27, 2011 14:46:39 GMT
I don't think you can compare Hewitt to Lacho - completely different players.
I'd have taken Tait and Weaver a couple of years but best years are behind both of them now. Wouldn't swap Myers for Tait now.
Of the other Brits out there in the EIHL Dowd always impresses but would I take him over Lacho? No thanks - Lacho's movement and awareness of what's going off around him completely belies his age and lack of experience. Add to that the points he's putting up then he's right up there. His points total for last season maybe looks a tad low but until Penner & Mcdonald left he was pretty much our 'spare' forward. It was only when he hooked up with Ryan & Bellamy that he saw regular ice time and his points output subsequently improved.
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Post by Bruins33 on Oct 27, 2011 19:25:59 GMT
Lacho is far better than Hewitt, wouldn't swap him for anyone of im being honest & he's still only 21 i think. Myers is a great player & IMO is the best Brit in the league. Part of me hopes he has another crack in NA, but obviously from a selfish point of view, I hope he stays.
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Post by cooperphil156 on Oct 27, 2011 19:28:06 GMT
Nice to look at scoring stats for Matt Mayers. What I like is that he is consistent (which we need) and reliable. Dont think he has too many bad games. Hes a real worker, takes the hits and must be good for team spirit.
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Post by abi on Oct 27, 2011 19:48:57 GMT
Sorry but this has to be said - threads like this REALLY wind me up. How the hell do you measure who is "best brit in the league" ? Form for the GB team? Who has played at the highest level? Biggest earner? Most points in the domestic competitions? Best moustache growing efforts?
Surely the important thing is that we have enough good quality brits out there so that these topics are incredibly hard to decide and full of names from all over the country?
I don't care who people think is the BEST brit, i just want people to have lots of lads to decide from when they try to think of who is the best brit.
My shouts for best brits in the league: Phillips, Myers, Murphy (thank you Fife for proving that playing your kids pays off), Clarke, Dowd and probably Craze (even though i dont think he's at his best form at the moment).
My shouts for biggest potential star brits: Lachowicz, Lee, Squires, Blair Daly (Is it something in the water in Fife?) and possibly Zajac with the right coaching.
But I digress...back to Myers. Yes, he's a top brit, his time in the states only improved his game, but overall I think its hard to say if he is the BEST, because he maybe plays a different game to other brits. He seems like more of an allrounder than a sniper like Clarke, so its impossible to compare. As long as his game works well both with the Panthers and the GB team, that's what matters.
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. Lachowicz has the most promise out of any Brit in the league I think though, great vision and great hands! I envy your Brit pack immensely!
